OFFICIAL 2009 DODGERS SEASON THREAD : Season Over. Congratulations Phillies.

Originally Posted by bright nikes

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[h1]Heyman On Halladay[/h1]
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 17 at 12:56pm CST]

Jon Heyman of SI.com hears the Blue Jays have told the Yankees and Red Sox they're unlikely to trade Roy Halladay within the AL East and haven't even returned a call the Yankees placed about Halladay over a week ago. That leaves the Phillies and, now, the Dodgers as frontrunners to acquire the Jays ace. Here are the details and a few stray rumors:
The Dodgers don't necessarily have enough minor league talent to tempt the Jays.
2. The Dodgers may be considered a longshot to get Roy Halladay from Toronto because they have made left-hander Clayton Kershaw untouchable. Smart. But Los Angeles still thinks it has a decent fit with Toronto even if the prospects the Blue Jays like, including third baseman Josh Bell, aren't exactly going to be big leaguers immediately. The Dodgers want a starting pitcher who would be certain to start one of the first three games of a playoff series. So, no, that does not mean Jarrod Washburn. It's either Halladay, Cliff Lee or nothing. The Dodgers would still like another arm for their bullpen, such as Arizona's Chad Qualls or Baltimore's George Sherrill.


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[h1]GOLD: In Mannywood, Ramirez's sins are forgiven[/h1]
By Jon Gold, Special to the Daily News

Updated: 07/16/2009 11:43:08 PM PDT


Someday, maybe Dodgers fans will spit out the Kool-Aid, rip off their dreadlocks, burn their No. 99 jerseys and curse Manny Ramirez's name.

Maybe they will look back at May 8, 2009, as the day Ramirez tarnished the clear Dodger Blue, scuffed up the aura that Sandy Koufax and Maury Wills and Orel Hershiser helped to build.

Maybe they will care that a great player used a performance-enhancing drug to get even greater, that 37 home runs was just not enough, certainly not 38 home runs, and that the game was worse off for it.

Maybe that will happen.

But not on Thursday.

"That's why we're here, to support him," said Mike Cerna of Los Angeles, one of four "Manny Maniacs" - decked out in Ramirez shirts, black-and-blue dreadlocks and bandanas - sitting in the left-field pavilion known as Mannywood. "It's not about the steroids. He's a man. He's just a man. We're not tripping. The whole decade has changed baseball. I'm not surprised if tomorrow, Albert Pujols got busted.

"I'm not surprised."

And that's the sad part.

Ramirez's name gets announced in the starting lineup for the first time in Los Angeles in more than two months, and he gets a loud cheer.

Ramirez walks out onto the Dodger Stadium outfield grass, and the Mannywood fans rise to their feet.

Ramirez strides to the batter's box to take his first official cuts in Chavez Ravine since May 6 against Washington, and a "Manny! Manny!" chant breaks
out.
Safe to say, the fans have spoken loud and clear.

That whole spiel about the integrity of the game, that's long gone.

Manny hits, they're happy.

"Everybody does little things - speeding tickets, parking tickets," Dodgers first baseman James Loney said. "Everybody breaks the rules. Everybody has a conscience. I think people realize, `Hey, I'm not perfect, either.' I think that helps them cheer for their heroes.

"And that's the thing about people, sometimes it's not even about what you do, it's how you act afterwards."

Ramirez has handled the post-suspension onslaught admirably, not over-the-top apologetic, but not in complete denial, either. He hasn't taken the Barry Bonds, me-against-the-world approach, but he's not exactly knocking on the doors of Dodgers fans across the Southland, bearing gifts and begging for forgiveness.

It's almost like he realizes that what's done is done, some will forgive and forget and some he's lost forever.

"I have friends that, as soon as they found out Manny got caught, they were done, they were out," said John Tunick of Thousand Oaks, clad in a Ramirez shirt. "I got texts immediately that said, `No more.' And there are a lot of people that feel that way, that he disrespected the Dodger franchise. They have a lot of pride in the fact that we didn't have anyone who's ever broken the rules.

"Yeah, maybe I turn the other cheek because he's fun to watch and he's a good baseball player. I guess I'm one of the many who say, `Manny, I forgive you."'

Tunick forgives the man not for his apologies, but for his RBIs. As long as Ramirez delivers, Tunick cheers. Sorry counts a heck of a lot more when there's a home run attached.

There have been plenty, three in just nine games since his return from suspension, with nine RBIs and a .364 batting average, despite a 1-for-4, two-strikeout performance in the Dodgers' 3-0 loss to Houston on Thursday.

"Manny's not a regular guy, he's done it all," Dodgers outfielder Matt Kemp said. "He's won the World Series, he's played in All-Star Games. He's on the level of Albert Pujols. I'm sure if they had Albert Pujols wigs in St. Louis, they would rock those, too. I mean, everybody's a fan of Manny. If you're a fan of baseball, you're a fan of Manny."

That includes Manny himself.

He's still as goofy as ever, as confident today as he was on May 6.

In a pregame interview, sitting on the uncomfortable home dugout bench, Ramirez looked as if he hadn't a care in the world. He joked with Manager Joe Torre, poked a little fun at himself, said he expected a rousing ovation, laughed "I'm back ... Part II."

But it wasn't until he jogged to left field that he felt at home, in Mannywood, where he has been MIA for 70 days.

He scratched, adjusted his belt, looked up into the stands, grinned, nodded.

"Baseball is family, it's kids, it's growing up," Cerna said. "You don't want your kids doing drugs. Manny doing it, it does hurt us. As a Dodger fan, it really, really does. But we're going to support him, accept him, forgive him. We're not going to boo him. That's never gone through our minds."

This is his place. This is his town. These are his people.

One pesky little steroid suspension isn't going to change that.

Maybe it should.

And maybe that says more about the game than it does about the player.

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Pierre got a HUGE pop lastnight when he came up to PH too

That gave me more chills than seeing Manny get on the field
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Originally Posted by P MAC ONE

Originally Posted by bright nikes

[h1]http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2009/07/heyman-on-halladay-francoeur-brewers.html[/h1]
[h1]Heyman On Halladay[/h1]
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 17 at 12:56pm CST]

Jon Heyman of SI.com hears the Blue Jays have told the Yankees and Red Sox they're unlikely to trade Roy Halladay within the AL East and haven't even returned a call the Yankees placed about Halladay over a week ago. That leaves the Phillies and, now, the Dodgers as frontrunners to acquire the Jays ace. Here are the details and a few stray rumors:
The Dodgers don't necessarily have enough minor league talent to tempt the Jays.
2. The Dodgers may be considered a longshot to get Roy Halladay from Toronto because they have made left-hander Clayton Kershaw untouchable. Smart. But Los Angeles still thinks it has a decent fit with Toronto even if the prospects the Blue Jays like, including third baseman Josh Bell, aren't exactly going to be big leaguers immediately. The Dodgers want a starting pitcher who would be certain to start one of the first three games of a playoff series. So, no, that does not mean Jarrod Washburn. It's either Halladay, Cliff Lee or nothing. The Dodgers would still like another arm for their bullpen, such as Arizona's Chad Qualls or Baltimore's George Sherrill.


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it would be big if we get halladay without giving up kershaw or bills.
 
Yo BN how much you lookin to spend? I got an LG 37 inch from Best Buy for $500 a couple months ago. It was open box tho, but I got insurance so I said !+%! it
 
Jay Mariotti just called out Bill Plaschke on ATH said he was at the game also and manny was giving the fans props all night long
 
Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Pierre got a HUGE pop lastnight when he came up to PH too

That gave me more chills than seeing Manny get on the field
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it was real funny to see people going crazy when pierre came up to whiff at all those pitches. the fans love him now
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anyone planning on going to the this is my town MEXICO game? normally i would stay away but i have a feeling its going to be like a train wreck that night andi have to be there to see it.
 
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

anyone planning on going to the this is my town MEXICO game? normally i would stay away but i have a feeling its going to be like a train wreck that night and i have to be there to see it.


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since you put it that way, no!
 
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

anyone planning on going to the this is my town MEXICO game? normally i would stay away but i have a feeling its going to be like a train wreck that night and i have to be there to see it.
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normally I avoid huge crowds of my people but this is one I CANNOT miss. The main reason being that I want to cop the Los Dodgers jersey,but secondly to see how destructive the pendejos can be. I got a feeling it's gonna look like mike vicks backyard
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Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

anyone planning on going to the this is my town MEXICO game? normally i would stay away but i have a feeling its going to be like a train wreck that night and i have to be there to see it.
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normally I avoid huge crowds of my people but this is one I CANNOT miss. The main reason being that I want to cop the Los Dodgers jersey, but secondly to see how destructive the pendejos can be. I got a feeling it's gonna look like mike vicks backyard
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if they have the Los Dodgers jersey would it only be sold that day?
 
Furcal, SS

Pierre, LF

Manny, LF

Blake, 3B

Ethier, RF

Loney, 1B

Hudson, 2B

Martin, C
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Originally Posted by sinser13

Originally Posted by CincoSeisDos

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

anyone planning on going to the this is my town MEXICO game? normally i would stay away but i have a feeling its going to be like a train wreck that night and i have to be there to see it.
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normally I avoid huge crowds of my people but this is one I CANNOT miss. The main reason being that I want to cop the Los Dodgers jersey, but secondly to see how destructive the pendejos can be. I got a feeling it's gonna look like mike vicks backyard
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if they have the Los Dodgers jersey would it only be sold that day?
typically dudes tend to snag em all up and sell em on NLT, now it's Jerseycentral.org as well as others and eBay.

As IronMan stated, nothings for certain, maybe it's just what they'll wear and not sell but from what i've seen all other teams who've wornspanish jerseys sell them that day in limited quantities. Hopefully the same rings true in our case if they in fact do this.
 
Not really feelin the lineup (but I bet it'll come through tonight).

If anyone needs a rest its Mr. League Leading DP man Ethier.

O-Dog needs be moved up, let's see how Pierre does in front of Manny. No more K's juan!
 
NP Pmac

It would have been better if she was touching herself, but hey it'll do.
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Its gametime
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We gotta get this W it won't be easy with oswalt on the mound.
 
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