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Hey, speaking of which, I think I might finally pick up a next generation system (PS3) this weekend. Once I get acclimated, I'll be up for a little 2K11 and Madden with you guys.
OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?
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Naw, I'm not on Yao, had a question from earlier stuff.
So, does True Shooting % imply a person is a better shooter then another? What factors does the % bring in? For instance Shaq wouldn't be a better shooter then Kobe, because he takes shots from 2 feet, etc. So what does it factor for it's equation?
I wish one of the stat guys had the time to actually create a thread, and go thru the different "new" numbers thing they use, and break them down. I may not agree with them, but I would read that and listen. (I know that takes a ton of time) Or I suppose if one of them would want to do some of them in here.
Naw, I'm not on Yao, had a question from earlier stuff.
So, does True Shooting % imply a person is a better shooter then another? What factors does the % bring in? For instance Shaq wouldn't be a better shooter then Kobe, because he takes shots from 2 feet, etc. So what does it factor for it's equation?
I wish one of the stat guys had the time to actually create a thread, and go thru the different "new" numbers thing they use, and break them down. I may not agree with them, but I would read that and listen. (I know that takes a ton of time) Or I suppose if one of them would want to do some of them in here.
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"None of them 7'6" is the key phrase, considering how few people have been effective at his size, I looked it up, of guys over 7-3 (the height above which I think we accept as being freak status.) Yao has the 2nd Highest rebound rate behind Sabonis.
Again I think the lumbering has more to do with the 7'6 thing again, and plus again he averaged 33 minutes his whole career, thats good for 13th highest out all the 7 footers in the history of the game, so how out of shape could he be?
The 1 out of 5, im saying I can't argue about the frail part because he does get injured a lot but the rest of it you're wrong about.
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"None of them 7'6" is the key phrase, considering how few people have been effective at his size, I looked it up, of guys over 7-3 (the height above which I think we accept as being freak status.) Yao has the 2nd Highest rebound rate behind Sabonis.
Again I think the lumbering has more to do with the 7'6 thing again, and plus again he averaged 33 minutes his whole career, thats good for 13th highest out all the 7 footers in the history of the game, so how out of shape could he be?
The 1 out of 5, im saying I can't argue about the frail part because he does get injured a lot but the rest of it you're wrong about.
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QFTMFT. Completely agree with pretty much everything you wrote. Especially the statement about WestphalOriginally Posted by rck2sactown
What is going on in Sacramento? I haven't seen much improvement out of Omri Casspi and Tyreke Evans isn't looking like the savior that many had dubbed him as. They've both picked it up a little bit as of late.... but damn. I was jealous of that Evans-Cousins tandem before the season and now with those reports coming out over the past month about players not feeling Cousins in the locker room, I don't know what to think of it. We knew he had attitude concerns, but damn, already?... I feel like a group like that might need a coach that has made a name for himself. I know Westphal reached the Finals with the Suns in 1993, but that team was pretty much handed to him when Cotton Fitzsimmons retired. All this being said, it's early.
^I thought you offed yourself last night?
Don't waste your time, brah. The T-Wolves, even with Love and Beasley aren't exactly doing much better than the Kings. Now wsup with that?
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QFTMFT. Completely agree with pretty much everything you wrote. Especially the statement about WestphalOriginally Posted by rck2sactown
What is going on in Sacramento? I haven't seen much improvement out of Omri Casspi and Tyreke Evans isn't looking like the savior that many had dubbed him as. They've both picked it up a little bit as of late.... but damn. I was jealous of that Evans-Cousins tandem before the season and now with those reports coming out over the past month about players not feeling Cousins in the locker room, I don't know what to think of it. We knew he had attitude concerns, but damn, already?... I feel like a group like that might need a coach that has made a name for himself. I know Westphal reached the Finals with the Suns in 1993, but that team was pretty much handed to him when Cotton Fitzsimmons retired. All this being said, it's early.
^I thought you offed yourself last night?
Don't waste your time, brah. The T-Wolves, even with Love and Beasley aren't exactly doing much better than the Kings. Now wsup with that?
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The point of TS% is to add FTA and 3P into you regular shooting percentage, it's not about who is a better shooter because you would have to watch the game to determine that. (which I never do)
For example Jeff Green has a 45 FG%, Danilo Gallianri shoots 40% from the field so naturally people say Jeff Green is more efficient but you don't factor in that Gallo gets to the line more times and shoots 90%, he also is also a much better 3 point shooter at 38% from the field.
So TS% takes that into account ANND.
Danilo is probably a more efficient. scorer.
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The point of TS% is to add FTA and 3P into you regular shooting percentage, it's not about who is a better shooter because you would have to watch the game to determine that. (which I never do)
For example Jeff Green has a 45 FG%, Danilo Gallianri shoots 40% from the field so naturally people say Jeff Green is more efficient but you don't factor in that Gallo gets to the line more times and shoots 90%, he also is also a much better 3 point shooter at 38% from the field.
So TS% takes that into account ANND.
Danilo is probably a more efficient. scorer.
But it doesn't determine who the better shooter is then? Ok, that makes me feel a little better at least. JH has Rondo with a higher TS% then D Rose, and if that implied who the better shooter was, NT was about to come to an end.
Soooo, Corey Maggette = Colston status because of how many times he flops to the line?
That's some bogusness right there. I'm not sure about the whole FT attempts, being included in a shooting percentage. Points per shot, (used to be one of Doug Collins fav stats) I can understand the need, but TS% with free throw attempts? Weird.
Soooo, Corey Maggette = Colston status because of how many times he flops to the line?
But it doesn't determine who the better shooter is then? Ok, that makes me feel a little better at least. JH has Rondo with a higher TS% then D Rose, and if that implied who the better shooter was, NT was about to come to an end.
Soooo, Corey Maggette = Colston status because of how many times he flops to the line?
That's some bogusness right there. I'm not sure about the whole FT attempts, being included in a shooting percentage. Points per shot, (used to be one of Doug Collins fav stats) I can understand the need, but TS% with free throw attempts? Weird.
Soooo, Corey Maggette = Colston status because of how many times he flops to the line?
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PPS does a similar thing, different way of skinning the same cat.Originally Posted by CP1708
But it doesn't determine who the better shooter is then? Ok, that makes me feel a little better at least. JH has Rondo with a higher TS% then D Rose, and if that implied who the better shooter was, NT was about to come to an end.
Soooo, Corey Maggette = Colston status because of how many times he flops to the line?That's some bogusness right there. I'm not sure about the whole FT attempts, being included in a shooting percentage. Points per shot, (used to be one of Doug Collins fav stats) I can understand the need, but TS% with free throw attempts? Weird.
Maggete's was god status last year with the TS% but this year he's TS% is garbage because he ONLY can score by getting to the line, his jump shot and seemingly a lot of his athleticism has disappeared.
TS% is just a factoid it's not particularly useful until you combine it with what you have seen. TS% tells me that last year and most of his career, Cory is an efficient scorer, watching him(which I never do) tells me he is a black hole who scores without making his teammate better and is in fact probably worse.
but the perception is I blindly follow what any statistic says.
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PPS does a similar thing, different way of skinning the same cat.Originally Posted by CP1708
But it doesn't determine who the better shooter is then? Ok, that makes me feel a little better at least. JH has Rondo with a higher TS% then D Rose, and if that implied who the better shooter was, NT was about to come to an end.
Soooo, Corey Maggette = Colston status because of how many times he flops to the line?That's some bogusness right there. I'm not sure about the whole FT attempts, being included in a shooting percentage. Points per shot, (used to be one of Doug Collins fav stats) I can understand the need, but TS% with free throw attempts? Weird.
Maggete's was god status last year with the TS% but this year he's TS% is garbage because he ONLY can score by getting to the line, his jump shot and seemingly a lot of his athleticism has disappeared.
TS% is just a factoid it's not particularly useful until you combine it with what you have seen. TS% tells me that last year and most of his career, Cory is an efficient scorer, watching him(which I never do) tells me he is a black hole who scores without making his teammate better and is in fact probably worse.
but the perception is I blindly follow what any statistic says.
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I really hate you right now, KLJ.
It ain't got nothing to do with me being Asian either.
I ain't even going to get into it, I just hate you dude.
It ain't got nothing to do with me being Asian either.
I ain't even going to get into it, I just hate you dude.
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I really hate you right now, KLJ.
It ain't got nothing to do with me being Asian either.
I ain't even going to get into it, I just hate you dude.
It ain't got nothing to do with me being Asian either.
I ain't even going to get into it, I just hate you dude.
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You're Asian?
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You're Asian?
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You're a jerk.
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You're a jerk.
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I always thought you were white.
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I always thought you were white.
