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OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?
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Count me out.
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Count me out.
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Rondo averaged 13.7ppg, 9.8apg, 4.4rpg and 2spg last season and he got 5yrs/55mil compared to Conley averaging 15ppg, 8.3apg, 5.7rpg, 3.7spg. I know his steals won't stay the same, but I predicted Conley to average 15, 8 and 4 this season.
If Conley keeps up his production similar to what he's averaging now, then what? My main gripe about the deal is Conley's previous performances. But, as someone mentioned Conley's past 34 games he's been playing up to par with players like Parker, Rose, Mo, Nelson, Felton, etc.
As it said, the contract is not about what he's done but what the team believes he can do in the future. Time will tell whether the contract was a bargain or stupid.
NOW, if the team did this only to count Marc Gasol out and to keep Thabeet I'm done. But, this obviously is a move that the team wants to make believing that Conley is their PG of the future. Last season I wouldn't want that, but thus far I can see it. I'm not sure if anybody else other than Nas and a few more people have seen his performances over the pre-season and the first few games, but he looks like a completely different player.
Nas, you may be right that this might be the end up OJ. They've already been wanting to trade him, so I wouldn't be surprised. But, Heisley also said that he's willing to pay if the team can win. I don't want them to re-sign Zach and leave OJ hanging though. I'll definitely rather see it being vice versa.
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Rondo averaged 13.7ppg, 9.8apg, 4.4rpg and 2spg last season and he got 5yrs/55mil compared to Conley averaging 15ppg, 8.3apg, 5.7rpg, 3.7spg. I know his steals won't stay the same, but I predicted Conley to average 15, 8 and 4 this season.
If Conley keeps up his production similar to what he's averaging now, then what? My main gripe about the deal is Conley's previous performances. But, as someone mentioned Conley's past 34 games he's been playing up to par with players like Parker, Rose, Mo, Nelson, Felton, etc.
As it said, the contract is not about what he's done but what the team believes he can do in the future. Time will tell whether the contract was a bargain or stupid.
NOW, if the team did this only to count Marc Gasol out and to keep Thabeet I'm done. But, this obviously is a move that the team wants to make believing that Conley is their PG of the future. Last season I wouldn't want that, but thus far I can see it. I'm not sure if anybody else other than Nas and a few more people have seen his performances over the pre-season and the first few games, but he looks like a completely different player.
Nas, you may be right that this might be the end up OJ. They've already been wanting to trade him, so I wouldn't be surprised. But, Heisley also said that he's willing to pay if the team can win. I don't want them to re-sign Zach and leave OJ hanging though. I'll definitely rather see it being vice versa.
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Don't. Just don't.
But since you are, let me remind you that you're using Conley's averages from three basketball games.
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Don't. Just don't.
But since you are, let me remind you that you're using Conley's averages from three basketball games.
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I would have just waited until the summer to extend him. If he plays well, then you can reward him. The new CBA will more than likely help small market teams like the Grizzlies pay their players and keep a core together. Why rush it when Gasol and Z-Bo will be free agents and Juice will be eligible for an extension?
Conley has looked good but he is so lucky he has Coach Hollins batting for him.
Conley has looked good but he is so lucky he has Coach Hollins batting for him.
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I would have just waited until the summer to extend him. If he plays well, then you can reward him. The new CBA will more than likely help small market teams like the Grizzlies pay their players and keep a core together. Why rush it when Gasol and Z-Bo will be free agents and Juice will be eligible for an extension?
Conley has looked good but he is so lucky he has Coach Hollins batting for him.
Conley has looked good but he is so lucky he has Coach Hollins batting for him.
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Rondo averaged 13.7ppg, 9.8apg, 4.4rpg and 2spg last season and he got 5yrs/55mil compared to Conley averaging 15ppg, 8.3apg, 5.7rpg, 3.7spg. I know his steals won't stay the same, but I predicted Conley to average 15, 8 and 4 this season.
If Conley keeps up his production similar to what he's averaging now, then what?
The last two months of the season (which Conley is famous for producing) he averaged 16.5ppg, 5.5apg, 2.5rpg and 2spg. But, who says he won't improve to what he's doing right now? And the 39 games after Hollins was the coach back in Jan 2009 he's averaged 14ppg, 4rpg, and 5.7apg.
I wanted the deal to be a few million less and a year shorter, but once again people making it seem like we gave Conley $60mil. All I'm saying at this point is if he keeps up the production SIMILAR to what he's averaging now in which he can become the MIP player this season and the Grizz continue to win ball games, what's the main issue?
And CP, what if Conley put up Rondo-like numbers all season? You can't compare his statistics to what Rondo does because of what Rondo's team has achieved? Is that what your basically saying? He's only 23 years old and to think he's not capable of what he's doing NOW isn't out of the question. I said that I know its the first few games of the season, but who else expected ?him to even do this early in the season other than me? Nobody. So, whether Conley keeps this up, I can expect for people to knock the deal anyway.
Nas, I would have liked to have waited as well, but we saw what waiting did with Rudy. They knew a team was bound to offer him a big deal, so they bit first. Conley keeps producing like he has, then we may end up overpaying him more than what we gave him. You just know sometimes.
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Rondo averaged 13.7ppg, 9.8apg, 4.4rpg and 2spg last season and he got 5yrs/55mil compared to Conley averaging 15ppg, 8.3apg, 5.7rpg, 3.7spg. I know his steals won't stay the same, but I predicted Conley to average 15, 8 and 4 this season.
If Conley keeps up his production similar to what he's averaging now, then what?
The last two months of the season (which Conley is famous for producing) he averaged 16.5ppg, 5.5apg, 2.5rpg and 2spg. But, who says he won't improve to what he's doing right now? And the 39 games after Hollins was the coach back in Jan 2009 he's averaged 14ppg, 4rpg, and 5.7apg.
I wanted the deal to be a few million less and a year shorter, but once again people making it seem like we gave Conley $60mil. All I'm saying at this point is if he keeps up the production SIMILAR to what he's averaging now in which he can become the MIP player this season and the Grizz continue to win ball games, what's the main issue?
And CP, what if Conley put up Rondo-like numbers all season? You can't compare his statistics to what Rondo does because of what Rondo's team has achieved? Is that what your basically saying? He's only 23 years old and to think he's not capable of what he's doing NOW isn't out of the question. I said that I know its the first few games of the season, but who else expected ?him to even do this early in the season other than me? Nobody. So, whether Conley keeps this up, I can expect for people to knock the deal anyway.
Nas, I would have liked to have waited as well, but we saw what waiting did with Rudy. They knew a team was bound to offer him a big deal, so they bit first. Conley keeps producing like he has, then we may end up overpaying him more than what we gave him. You just know sometimes.
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Dumb decision to give him that extension, and there was absolutely no reason to do so.
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Dumb decision to give him that extension, and there was absolutely no reason to do so.
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And Rondo's contract is definitely a bargain and in no way am I'm saying Conley is Rondo. But, his production has been similar this season. I know the only thing some people probably see
is "Conley.................Rondo......................stats....................."
I'll just let Conley play and see if its as dumb as we think it is. Got to see what he's going to produce. The only thing I want some people to answer is if he continues to produce at a 15, 8, 4, 2.5spg level, is the contract bad? Hell, even 15, 7, 4 and 2 along with the team winning. That's the ONLY question I want to know.
I can't agree with everything the front office do, but sometimes people make it look worse than it really is. First, Memphis isn't loyal at all to its players and not willing to pay. Now that they are doing what it takes to keep their guys around, they still stupid even if the players produce and the team is winning.
is "Conley.................Rondo......................stats....................."
I'll just let Conley play and see if its as dumb as we think it is. Got to see what he's going to produce. The only thing I want some people to answer is if he continues to produce at a 15, 8, 4, 2.5spg level, is the contract bad? Hell, even 15, 7, 4 and 2 along with the team winning. That's the ONLY question I want to know.
I can't agree with everything the front office do, but sometimes people make it look worse than it really is. First, Memphis isn't loyal at all to its players and not willing to pay. Now that they are doing what it takes to keep their guys around, they still stupid even if the players produce and the team is winning.
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And Rondo's contract is definitely a bargain and in no way am I'm saying Conley is Rondo. But, his production has been similar this season. I know the only thing some people probably see
is "Conley.................Rondo......................stats....................."
I'll just let Conley play and see if its as dumb as we think it is. Got to see what he's going to produce. The only thing I want some people to answer is if he continues to produce at a 15, 8, 4, 2.5spg level, is the contract bad? Hell, even 15, 7, 4 and 2 along with the team winning. That's the ONLY question I want to know.
I can't agree with everything the front office do, but sometimes people make it look worse than it really is. First, Memphis isn't loyal at all to its players and not willing to pay. Now that they are doing what it takes to keep their guys around, they still stupid even if the players produce and the team is winning.
is "Conley.................Rondo......................stats....................."
I'll just let Conley play and see if its as dumb as we think it is. Got to see what he's going to produce. The only thing I want some people to answer is if he continues to produce at a 15, 8, 4, 2.5spg level, is the contract bad? Hell, even 15, 7, 4 and 2 along with the team winning. That's the ONLY question I want to know.
I can't agree with everything the front office do, but sometimes people make it look worse than it really is. First, Memphis isn't loyal at all to its players and not willing to pay. Now that they are doing what it takes to keep their guys around, they still stupid even if the players produce and the team is winning.
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What team is going to pay Conley $45 million? The T'Wolves? Pacers? Knicks? Wizards? Hornets? Kings?
So that basically leaves the rest of the league giving at most their entire MLE (if there is one to begin with in the new CBA) which will only top $35 million, which saves the team $10 million in the long run already.
Bad organizations stay bad with bone headed moves like this.
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What team is going to pay Conley $45 million? The T'Wolves? Pacers? Knicks? Wizards? Hornets? Kings?
So that basically leaves the rest of the league giving at most their entire MLE (if there is one to begin with in the new CBA) which will only top $35 million, which saves the team $10 million in the long run already.
Bad organizations stay bad with bone headed moves like this.
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Let Conley play, see if he produces... then give him the contract. Don't give him the contract, then hope he produces.
With him being a restricted FA next summer if he wasn't given this extension, and the new CBA, there shouldn't be much of a worry about losing him or having to pay him more than what you just did. Now you're on the hook whether he produces or not.
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Let Conley play, see if he produces... then give him the contract. Don't give him the contract, then hope he produces.
With him being a restricted FA next summer if he wasn't given this extension, and the new CBA, there shouldn't be much of a worry about losing him or having to pay him more than what you just did. Now you're on the hook whether he produces or not.
