Official 2012 NBA Draft Thread

Yeah that trade had <1% chance of happening... Just a wishful thought the Cavs tried to throw out there...

If Barnes is CLE's guy they'll need to be sure he will be there at 6... He probably would be.

Blazers better pray whoever they get at 4 turns out good IF that trade happens.
 
Kendell Marshal is Jason Kidd? In what world? He can't guard anybody, he can't score at all, he's not a rebounder, he's the an anti athlete.

Kendall Marshal is in no way shape or form going to be Jason Kidd, not even 42 year old Jason Kidd, they are not comparable.

You should be ashamed of yourself for that comparison. 
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh

Kendell Marshal is Jason Kidd? In what world? He can't guard anybody, he can't score at all, he's not a rebounder, he's the an anti athlete.

Kendall Marshal is in no way shape or form going to be Jason Kidd, not even 42 year old Jason Kidd, they are not comparable.

You should be ashamed of yourself for that comparison. 
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Yea, I see a little more young Andre Miller in his game. People forget that Kidd was quick and pretty explosive coming out of college. If you want to say a 37 year old Kidd, then maybe. 
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh


You should be ashamed of yourself for that comparison. 
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I'm a fan what can I say.  My opinion might be skewed 
However, you saying that they are not comparable in any way is complete and utter slander. 
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court vision

no wasted movement/doesnt over dribble

basketball IQ/feel for playing PG

runs a team both in full court and half court possessions

sound like Kidd attributes to me 

Dont forget that UNC team was going NOWHERE before Marshall stepped in for Drew. 
 
Originally Posted by cleansneaksonly21

Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh


You should be ashamed of yourself for that comparison. 
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I'm a fan what can I say.  My opinion might be skewed 
However, you saying that they are not comparable in any way is complete and utter slander. 
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court vision

no wasted movement/doesnt over dribble

basketball IQ/feel for playing PG

runs a team both in full court and half court possessions

sound like Kidd attributes to me 

Dont forget that UNC team was going NOWHERE before Marshall stepped in for Drew. 
Kendall's ceiling is what Andrew Miller is RIGHT NOW
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Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh

Kendell Marshal is Jason Kidd? In what world? He can't guard anybody, he can't score at all, he's not a rebounder, he's the an anti athlete.

Kendall Marshal is in no way shape or form going to be Jason Kidd, not even 42 year old Jason Kidd, they are not comparable.

You should be ashamed of yourself for that comparison. 
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Yea, I see a little more young Andre Miller in his game. People forget that Kidd was quick and pretty explosive coming out of college. If you want to say a 37 year old Kidd, then maybe. 
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If Kendall Marshall was as athletic as a young Andre Miller then he would be a surefire top 10 pick
 
jason kidd really ?  
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Kendall marshall comparison to marcus williams from uconn still sound's legit ( but KM has a basketball iq and no character issues like MW)
 
Good to see 3 bay area heads at the combine. Lilliard, Cunningham, and Orlando Johnson. I hope they all go in the first round.
 
Athletic testing released.

http://www.draftexpress.c...=0&pos=0&sort=12

Is it just me are humans just getting more athletic...

Miles Plumlee with a 40 inch vert, which I don't care what any one says thats insane, 260 pound humans just shouldn't be able to jump that high. 
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Q. Miller getting up 36 inch higher than i expected.


Also Harrison Barnes getting up, 38 inches flat footed, thats surprising, one of the highest ever recorded.


Standing Vertical Jump

Five Best
Harrison Barnes38.0
Damian Lillard34.5
Festus Ezeli34
Miles Plumlee34
Marcus Denmon33.5
Darius Johnson-Odom33.5
Arnett Moultrie33.5
Jeff Taylor33.5

Five Worst

John Henson25.5
J'Covan Brown 26
Henry Sims26.5
Scott Machado27
Mike Scott27

Maximum Vertical Jump

Five Best

Darius Johnson-Odom41.5
Miles Plumlee40.5
Marquis Teague40.5
Jeff Taylor40.0
Marcus Denmon40.0
Tony Mitchell40.0

Five Worst

Henry Sims29.5
J'Covan Brown 29.5
John Henson30
Robbie Hummel30
Andrew Nicholson30.5

Bench Press Repititions

Five Best

Jae Crowder20
Meyers Leonard19
JaMychal Green19
Festus Ezeli18
Kevin Jones17
Scott Machado17
Darius Johnson-Odom17

Five Worst

Tony Wroten0
Tyshawn Taylor0
Will Barton0
Austin Rivers1
Doron Lamb2
Terrence Ross2

3/4 Court Sprint

Five Best

Harrison Barnes3.16
Thomas Robinson3.17
Michael Kidd Gilchrist 3.18
Marcus Denmon3.19
Marquis Teague3.19
Perry Jones3.19

Five Worst

Jared Sullinger3.81
Andrew Nicholson3.67
Kevin Jones3.6
Will Barton3.6
Kyle O'Quinn 3.53

3/4 Court Sprint

Five Best

Harrison Barnes3.16
Thomas Robinson3.17
Michael Kidd Gilchrist 3.18
Marcus Denmon3.19
Marquis Teague3.19
Perry Jones3.19

Five Worst

Jared Sullinger3.81
Andrew Nicholson3.67
Kevin Jones3.6
Will Barton3.6
Kyle O'Quinn 3.53

Lane Shuttle Total Time

Five Best

Marcus Denmon7.56
Jordan Taylor7.75
Bradley Beal7.88
Draymond Green7.88
Terrence Ross7.95

Five Worst

Terrence Jones11.48
Henry Sims9.23
Bernard James9.16
J'Covan Brown 9.14
Hollis Thompson9.01

From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1xafb9gyi
http://www.draftexpress.com
 
Yeah, I see Marshall having a Marcus Williams type career in the league. Unless he drastically improves his game, he'a gonna be a journeymen. Who knows tho...

Barnes
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Henson vert top 5 worst? Damn lol

Still hoping my dude Tyshawn cooks in the L!
 
Osh Kosh Bosh wrote:
Athletic testing released.

http://www.draftexpress.c...=0&pos=0&sort=12

Is it just me are humans just getting more athletic...

Miles Plumlee with a 40 inch vert, which I don't care what any one says thats insane, 260 pound humans just shouldn't be able to jump that high. 
sick.gif


Q. Miller getting up 36 inch higher than i expected.


Also Harrison Barnes getting up, 38 inches flat footed, thats surprising, one of the highest ever recorded.


Standing Vertical Jump

Five Best
Harrison Barnes38.0
Damian Lillard34.5
Festus Ezeli34
Miles Plumlee34
Marcus Denmon33.5
Darius Johnson-Odom33.5
Arnett Moultrie33.5
Jeff Taylor33.5

Five Worst

John Henson25.5
J'Covan Brown 26
Henry Sims26.5
Scott Machado27
Mike Scott27

Maximum Vertical Jump

Five Best

Darius Johnson-Odom41.5
Miles Plumlee40.5
Marquis Teague40.5
Jeff Taylor40.0
Marcus Denmon40.0
Tony Mitchell40.0

Five Worst

Henry Sims29.5
J'Covan Brown 29.5
John Henson30
Robbie Hummel30
Andrew Nicholson30.5

Bench Press Repititions

Five Best

Jae Crowder20
Meyers Leonard19
JaMychal Green19
Festus Ezeli18
Kevin Jones17
Scott Machado17
Darius Johnson-Odom17

Five Worst

Tony Wroten0
Tyshawn Taylor0
Will Barton0
Austin Rivers1
Doron Lamb2
Terrence Ross2

3/4 Court Sprint

Five Best

Harrison Barnes3.16
Thomas Robinson3.17
Michael Kidd Gilchrist 3.18
Marcus Denmon3.19
Marquis Teague3.19
Perry Jones3.19

Five Worst

Jared Sullinger3.81
Andrew Nicholson3.67
Kevin Jones3.6
Will Barton3.6
Kyle O'Quinn 3.53

3/4 Court Sprint

Five Best

Harrison Barnes3.16
Thomas Robinson3.17
Michael Kidd Gilchrist 3.18
Marcus Denmon3.19
Marquis Teague3.19
Perry Jones3.19

Five Worst

Jared Sullinger3.81
Andrew Nicholson3.67
Kevin Jones3.6
Will Barton3.6
Kyle O'Quinn 3.53

Lane Shuttle Total Time

Five Best

Marcus Denmon7.56
Jordan Taylor7.75
Bradley Beal7.88
Draymond Green7.88
Terrence Ross7.95

Five Worst

Terrence Jones11.48
Henry Sims9.23
Bernard James9.16
J'Covan Brown 9.14
Hollis Thompson9.01

From DraftExpress.comhttp://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz1xafb9gyi
http://www.draftexpress.com
 
My son T-Rob with the quickness. Surprised he wasn't up there w/ the bench reps though.
LOL @ Ty. Oh well, couldn't get the reps in at bench. Still think he is going to be a late first rounder. Have heard that he is doing very well w/ the interviews and workouts.

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 @ J'Covan Brown. What in the world was he thinking? 14% body fat and the worst vertical leap?
 
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Originally Posted by solarius49

Does anybody else see Anthony Davis being a huge bust?

Nope - you're the only one.
Yeah, I might be, I just see a more athletic Emeka Okafor in his future
They are similar except for the, accurate jumper, extremely fluid post game, advanced ball handling and court vision and offensive basketball iq....wait
 
meh I guess you're right, I'm just always leary of the #1 overall pick, even though the track record is historically good
 
At this point in time, I'll be satisfied with either Beal, MKG, or Barnes.
..and knowing one of these guys will fall to us at #4 is a great feeling 
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I thought I just read read that the Cavs were basically for sure gonna trade out of the #4 spot
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