Official 2012 NBA Trade Deadline Thread: The Dwightmare is Over.

Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ

I don't think they need another shooter at all. Chuck has me buying in to them getting a low post scorer but I can't think of anyone good enough right now who could fill that role for them.

the problem with what barkley said, is that he doesn't factor in how much durant, westbrook and harden attack the rim and how many free throws each guy takes per game..

durant is 5th in free throw attempts per game, harden 11th and westbrook 13th



ray allen's role would just be to run off screens and hit open jumpers and provide more spacing on the court.. he would basically get the shots cook and thabo get
 
Howard's future, Boston's break-up and more rumors as deadline nears

Is it possible that after all these months of chatter, the endless trade talks and media reports about how and when he'll get to the next destination of his choice, that Dwight Howard remains in a Magic jersey past the March 15 trade deadline? Sources close to the process say it is.

If the Orlando brain-trust of owner Rich DeVos, CEO Alex Martins and general manager Otis Smith ultimately decide to keep the big man grounded, it will be for two obvious reasons: The pieces available in return simply weren't deemed good enough to build a post-Howard foundation and the allure of regaining $18 million in salary cap space was more enticing, and there remains some hope of him staying long-term. Martins said as much on Friday, telling Yahoo! Sports that "good conversations with [Howard] and his "people" had given him "hope."

Yet while there would be even more reason for optimism if the Magic could find some help for Howard, two sources close to the situation said their reported attempt to land Golden State guard Monta Ellis simply never happened. Warriors owner Joe Lacob is obsessed with the far-fetched thought of landing Howard himself, and chances are he wouldn't green-light any move -- even if it was a three- or four-team situation -- that helped Orlando keep Howard. More on the Warriors' front later.

As for the Magic's slice of leverage -- that extra fifth year on his contract and three percent edge on raises -- SI.com's Zach Lowe recently noted its relevancy is routinely and dramatically overstated because we're talking about mid-20s athletes with no plans of early retirement (or injury) here.

Still, a source close to New Jersey general manager Billy King said he is operating with the understanding that getting Howard for the long haul via trade is much more likely than via free agency because of his desire for the extra cash. That's the only way to impress fellow free-agent-to-be and Nets point guard Deron Williams as well, meaning this bold plan that was launched when they acquired Williams from Utah last February faces serious stakes in these coming weeks. There is also always the chance Howard could exercise his 2012-13 player option for $19.5 million if he felt like pushing the pause button on this whole sordid experience.

The only good news for King these days is that he appears to be in a one-horse race, with Howard's other preferred landing spots (the Lakers and Dallas) coming up with all sorts of deal-breaking complications. Which brings us back to Golden State.

Anyone who enjoys good theater should be rooting for the Warriors to pull off Mission Impossible here. Despite repeated assurances from Howard's agent, Dan Fegan, that the Howard would not stay beyond this season, sources say Lacob remains willing to blow up his roster for Howard -- even in a rental situation. His pitch is the West Coast version of the Nets' recruiting campaign: a virtual marketing bridge from the Bay to a lucrative overseas market in Asia and Howard's dream of becoming, as he has so often said privately, "a global icon." In a similar vein to the Nets' move from Newark to Brooklyn next season, the Warriors' lease on Oracle Arena in Oakland expires in 2016 and the idea of moving to San Francisco at that point is being explored.

To be clear, the idea of Lacob sending that all-or-nothing message now is very different from actually shipping the likes of Ellis or Stephen Curry to Orlando for a six-week date with Howard, so we'll see where it goes from here. Lacob could change his stance if his team falls even further back in the standings soon (the Warriors are four games out of a playoff spot at 14-19).

It's mostly a moot point as it is, considering the Magic haven't shown much interest in anyone on the Warriors' roster. If Lacob landed Howard, though, he'd have to deal with the possible reality of Howard bolting from the Bay Area and leaving a decimated Warriors roster behind. Then we're talking real tragic comedy, one that even Howard might find funny.

Break-up in Beantown?

As you've likely heard, the breakup of the Celtics may be sped up soon.

Yet for all the talk of Boston point guard Rajon Rondo possibly being traded, some league executives have shooting guard and free-agent-to-be Ray Allen pegged as the most likely to be moved. Sources say the Clippers are interested, having lost Chauncey Billups to season-ending injury and lost out to New York in the J.R. Smith sweepstakes.

But the price is likely too high, as Boston wants a package that includes a young talent and a draft pick. The Clippers don't have the latter component, though, and there's a bit of irony involved as to why.

Their 2012 first-round pick went to Oklahoma City in a deal for point guard Eric Bledsoe, and was then moved to Boston in the trade that sent center Kendrick Perkins to the Thunder. The Clippers also had Minnesota's unprotected 2012 first-rounder, but gave it to New Orleans in the Chris Paul trade.

Even with his age (36), Allen would be a difference maker for any team looking to add offensive firepower. The NBA's all-time 3-point champion is shooting a career-high 48.6 percent from beyond the arc (third in the league) while averaging 14.8 points per game on 47.5 percent shooting overall.

The Celtics (18-17) are still in playoff position, and they have some incentive to not fall too far this season no matter what moves are made since the aforementioned pick from the Clippers is top-10-protected until 2016. Boston also has its own 2012 first-round pick as well.

Crawford on his way out?

The Clippers or any other team looking for scoring could also turn their attention to Portland's Jamal Crawford. With the Blazers (18-18) underachieving and the 12-year veteran having struggled to fit in this season, sources say he's available. Crawford signed a two-year, $10 million deal on Dec. 15, but the second season is a player option and he plans to opt out this summer to retest the free agent market.

Crawford wasn't a natural fit from the start, as defensive-minded coach Nate McMillan was said to be wary of whether his new player would buy in on both ends. What's more, McMillan's use of Crawford as the starting point guard over Raymond Felton rather than playing him at his natural off-guard position is causing Crawford some consternation.

The 2009-10 Sixth Man of the Year -- who, for what it's worth, would prefer to finish the season in Portland -- is averaging 14.5 points in just 26.8 minutes per game. But his 40.2 percent shooting is his lowest mark since the 2006-07 campaign. While it's not known whether the Clippers and Blazers have discussed a deal involving Crawford, a source close to him said they showed significant interest when he was a free agent but lacked the flexibility to get a deal done.

Lakers action?

The Lakers are well aware that they need scoring and point guard help, thus their continued interest in Minnesota's Michael Beasley and Cleveland's Ramon Sessions.

Beasley, whose scoring and playing time are down significantly under first-year T-wolves coach Rick Adelman, is making $6.2 million this season (prorated for the 66-game season) and is a restricted free agent this offseason. Sessions, who is talented but expendable with the arrival of Rookie of the Year frontrunner Kyrie Irving, is on the books for $4.2 million this season with a player option of $4.5 million in 2012-13.

But it's unclear whether they're willing to take on any salary in any such deal or simply land one of them merely by way of their $8.9 million trade exception acquired in the Lamar Odom trade with Dallas in December, as well as giving up the lesser of their two first-round draft picks (theirs or the one obtained from Dallas in the Odom deal that is top 20 protected through 2018). It's no secret that the Lakers are trying to prepare for the luxury tax hell that's coming in the 2013-14 season, when the more punitive system agreed on in the new collective bargaining agreement will finally be put into place. One source said Lakers small forward Matt Barnes was included in one version of a possible Beasley deal with Minnesota.

Meanwhile, the future of Lakers forward Pau Gasol hasn't been made any more clear after Kobe Bryant's Feb. 19 mandate for clarity from management. Sources say Minnesota general manager David Kahn is still attempting to land Gasol, and that push is likely to continue all the way until the deadline. Houston general manager Daryl Morey remains equally enamored with the player he thought he landed in the vetoed three-team deal with the Lakers and New Orleans on Dec. 8, but the Rockets' love of point guard Kyle Lowry (who the Lakers would also love) has likely ended any possibilities there.

Should no moves take place, the Lakers -- who are 16-2 at home and just 6-12 on the road -- may remember this stretch as being pivotal come playoff time. They have won seven of their last nine games and crept into the top four in the Western Conference, otherwise known as home-court advantage territory.

In the five games since Bryant spoke publicly about Gasol's situation, the forward has continued his steady play while averaging 18.4 points and 8.4 rebounds.

"It is what it is," his brother, Memphis center Marc Gasol, told SI.com during All-Star weekend in Orlando. "There's no way around it. He knows that his name is out there and [the Lakers] are putting it out there and trying to find the best deal for them, but I think he's doing a great job of staying out of it and playing great basketball and trying to win games. That's all he wants to do. You can't find players like Pau.

"Pau's abilities cannot be found anywhere else, with that length, so many skills that he has. He can score so many different ways. He makes his teammates better, and on top of everything he's a winner. Winning is on top of everything. He doesn't care about points, rebounds, anything like that."
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 @ the Magic for actually believing Dwight is going to stay. 
 
Chris Broussard please kill yourself.

Melo and Chandler for Dwight is ridiculous from the Knicks side. Your an idiot. No1 is offering that because the Magic would be absolutely ******ed if they didnt sign off on that trade before they hung up the phone. Theres no way that trade is even semi legit.
 
Source: Lakers and Blazers discussing Felton

A league source has informed CSNNW.com that the Los Angeles Lakers and the Portland Trail Blazers have had “exploratory talks
 
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[h2] Blazers’ Jamal Crawford on the Move? [/h2]
By Yannis Koutroupis
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The Portland Trail Blazers are enduring a trying season at 18-19 and changes could be on the horizon. One Blazer who is garnering a lot of interest in particular is shooting guard Jamal Crawford.

Sources confirm to HOOPSWORLD that Crawford, who was signed as an unrestricted free agent this offseason to be retired shooting guard Brandon Roy’s replacement, is on several team’s radar. The Los Angeles Clippers and Minnesota Timberwolves are pursuing him the strongest, but the Sacramento Kings, Toronto Raptors and Milwaukee Bucks have also expressed interest.

Crawford has a very reasonable contract that is paying him $5 million this year with a player option for the same amount next season. Sources also revealed that the Blazers are concerned that he will not exercise that option this summer and that they’ll lose him in free agency. His recent move into the starting lineup directly coincides with that fear.

If a good enough offer comes along, the Blazers could take it to ensure they get something for Crawford rather than risking losing him this summer for nothing.

The problem is there’s no clear pecking order in Portland right now. Teams trying to deal with them have voiced frustration because they are unsure of who to talk to. As bad as things are in the locker room right now, they’re not much better in the front office.

They will continue to receive phone calls, though, because Crawford’s value far exceeds his salary and teams in need of a shooting guard view him as someone who could come in, start and make a major difference for them.
 
Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01

Chris Broussard please kill yourself.

Melo and Chandler for Dwight is ridiculous from the Knicks side. Your an idiot. No1 is offering that because the Magic would be absolutely ******ed if they didnt sign off on that trade before they hung up the phone. Theres no way that trade is even semi legit.
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Originally Posted by GaBeGRaMz

Felton would make L.A. way better IMO.

This. They're getting so many minutes of terrible PG play, that just an average point guard will help the team dramatically.

That's if fatboy can get back to average... 
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Originally Posted by MrONegative

Originally Posted by GaBeGRaMz

Felton would make L.A. way better IMO.

This. They're getting so many minutes of terrible PG play, that just an average point guard will help the team dramatically.

That's if fatboy can get back to average... 
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Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime

what do you guys think boston could realistically get for ray allen?


would love for us to do cook (or thabo), narz (a 3,750,00 expiring contract) and picks for him:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=79q4rpx


http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6pgyfob



Are you serious with these poo-poo platters? For Ray Allen? BOS has to be able to get much more than terrible picks and terrible players.
Yea, not only is that a bad trade, but it's boring as hell
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Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime

what do you guys think boston could realistically get for ray allen?


would love for us to do cook (or thabo), narz (a 3,750,00 expiring contract) and picks for him:
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=79q4rpx


http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6pgyfob



Are you serious with these poo-poo platters? For Ray Allen? BOS has to be able to get much more than terrible picks and terrible players.

going to assume you missed the first part of what i said, which was: "what do you guys think boston could realistically get for ray allen?"

then i said: "would love for us to do..."


but what can boston really get that?

we can assume that only contenders would be interested in a 36 year old ray allen (who will be 37 in june)
 
Why trade Ray Allen to the Thunder for no pieces that do anything for the Celtics?

Are Cook or Thabo really pieces you build with? The building blocks? No.

If he demands a trade there, maybe, and that's a huge maybe.
 
Why not just trade him to LAL for Kapono, McBob, and a signed Magic jersey then?
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Or hell, just send him to Miami.
 
I'll deal OJ straight up for Ray Allen since there's a chance OJ wouldn't be here past this season anyway. Start Ray at SG.
 
Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Why trade Ray Allen to the Thunder for no pieces that do anything for the Celtics?

Are Cook or Thabo really pieces you build with? The building blocks? No.

If he demands a trade there, maybe, and that's a huge maybe.

again.. i said "i would love for us to do.."

what playoff contender has a "building block" that they would be willing to part with for ray allen.. which is why i asked the question

i think thabo and cook have their roles on teams, obviously not building blocks (what did i say even remotely suggests this?).. but both are young and more importantly cheap
 
I don't think it happens either but the only other team said to be in the Ray Allen running is LAC, who is also looking at Jamal Crawford, and I don't know what package they can put together. It would absolutely represent Ainge giving up on the season though. Nazr is just an expirer, if you want to really be a salesman call him a championship team veteran but yea he sucks. If you get Cook, he is a >40% 3pt shooter (although his shooting has fallen off markedly since becoming a starter) who is only 24 and he expires next season so you can decide if you want to keep him for the post Big 3 era to run with Rondo and whoever, or let him expire. If you get Thabo, you get a consummate low mistake role player, very defensive and hustle minded who is only 27 and makes open shots (this yr anyways prior to injury) but doesn't expire until 2014 so Ainge would have to like him.

We'll also throw in Reggie Jackson, who played his college ball at Boston College just for nostalgia points.

Royal Ivey is another cheap expirer at only 1 mil, who much to my surprise and shagrin since I stayed hating on him, is actually not that bad. He plays great d, and makes open 3s.

Hypothetically, what could/would LAC offer?

All that said, I doubt it happens. But if Ainge were to do it, that would be the thought process.
 
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