Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

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Vincent Van Ho said:
Should have a playoffs MVP. Finals MVP doesn't really mean much to me.
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It would never go to a player on a team who wasn't in the finals and then it would end up going the same way Finals MVP does: to the guy that played the best in the winning team.
 
Big J 33 said:
But it would still come down to one or two players on the Finals winning team.... just like the Finals MVP does.
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Antidope said:
It would never go to a player on a team who wasn't in the finals and then it would end up going the same way Finals MVP does: to the guy that played the best in the winning team.
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Yeah but you would avoid things like "Pau deserves MVP". Bryant was the clear reason the Lakers won the two rings post Shaq. Pau no doubt was #2 and was very important but it irks me when people try to take that away from Bryant. And I don't like Bryant and think he's overrated.
 
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SLP Product said:
F outta here!!
Winning finals MVP is like winning SB MVP.
Just cause u had one good game don't mean u were killing it all season.
Besides the national consensus was that Gasol should've gotten that last one.
Whatever....
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Lol man what areeee youuuu talking abouttttt :{ :rolleyes
 
If kobe Bryant would have been given the keys to the kingdom like Lebron was, he would have a wildly different legacy.

Lebron was essentially told...hey,come into the league do your thing. 

If Kobe was given a similar greenlight, the learning curve would've been much more different. But ifs mean nothing tho.
 
bilboshmangins said:
If kobe Bryant would have been given the keys to the kingdom like Lebron was, he would have a wildly different legacy.

Lebron was essentially told...hey,come into the league do your thing. 

If Kobe was given a similar greenlight, the learning curve would've been much more different. But ifs mean nothing tho.
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Don't agree with this at all. He admits himself it took him a long long time to learn how to connect with his teammates and to elevate them to win. He admits that it took him a long time to become a true leader. He really didn't learn to win as the #1 until 2007-2008. That's like 10 years after he entered the league.

LeBron was a leader going back to day 1 in high school. Kobe was the awkward kid who was just wildly talented. 

Give Kobe what LeBron has had to work with in his career, and a lot of people's feelings would be hurt because his legacy would definitely not be where it is today.
 
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Vincent Van Ho said:
bilboshmangins said:
If kobe Bryant would have been given the keys to the kingdom like Lebron was, he would have a wildly different legacy.

Lebron was essentially told...hey,come into the league do your thing. 

If Kobe was given a similar greenlight, the learning curve would've been much more different. But ifs mean nothing tho.
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Don't agree with this at all. He admits himself it took him a long long time to learn how to connect with his teammates and to elevate them to win. He admits that it took him a long time to become a true leader. He really didn't learn to win as the #1 until 2007-2008. That's like 10 years after he entered the league.

LeBron was a leader going back to day 1 in high school. Kobe was the awkward kid who was just wildly talented. 

Give Kobe what LeBron has had to work with in his career, and a lot of people's feelings would be hurt because his legacy would definitely not be where it is today.
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If he was given the keys, that might have happened maybe 5-7 yrs earlier. He spent the early part of his career boxing with the shadow of micheal and the idea that he was a sidekick to shaq.

Maybe he matures quicker if that lil brother syndrome isn't fostered by shaq and phil?
 
Vincent Van Ho said:
bilboshmangins said:
If kobe Bryant would have been given the keys to the kingdom like Lebron was, he would have a wildly different legacy.

Lebron was essentially told...hey,come into the league do your thing. 

If Kobe was given a similar greenlight, the learning curve would've been much more different. But ifs mean nothing tho.
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Don't agree with this at all. He admits himself it took him a long long time to learn how to connect with his teammates and to elevate them to win. He admits that it took him a long time to become a true leader. He really didn't learn to win as the #1 until 2007-2008. That's like 10 years after he entered the league.

LeBron was a leader going back to day 1 in high school. Kobe was the awkward kid who was just wildly talented. 

Give Kobe what LeBron has had to work with in his career, and a lot of people's feelings would be hurt because his legacy would definitely not be where it is today.
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You cannot make these assumptions.. Because we don't know what would happen.. Because it didn't
 
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