Official 2013 NBA Offseason Thread

[awwsome]

What's crazy, is that after four straight NBA Finals appearances (three of them MVP seasons), he still put up 30/9/6 in 1988, on 50/40/90 shooting :x

The Hick from French Lick

Only one player capable of doing those type of numbers today....

 

[shoeking2101]

What's crazy, is that after four straight NBA Finals appearances (three of them MVP seasons), he still put up 30/9/6 in 1988, on 50/40/90 shooting :x

Incredible. Flat out incredible. That's special. No wonder why he's one of the greatest.

And that Nate Robinson vid is ridiculous. I saw Eric Bledsoe do some incredible athletic feats last summer at the SAC center, and nate is shorter than him which is mind-blowing. I'm always amazed when guys like them do things like this considering I'm taller than Bledsoe and Nate and can't do near what they do athletically

 

[DCAllAfrican]

What amazes me about KD is his free throw percentage considering how many attempts he takes per season. That is just wild man.

 

[awwsome]

It's all in the shake baby

 

[tommyicerocking]

and they say "there was no flopping in the 90's"

 

[Bert.]

They would have gotten closer than Orlando Tmac

thats for sure

 

[jjs07]

Really? How so....I don't watch icarly lol

 

[marath0n]

Man, the Worm was one of a kind

 

[addict4sneakers]

Man, the Worm was one of a kind

Incredible that he averaged 19 rebounds a game one season

 

[Bert.]

Man, the Worm was one of a kind

Incredible that he averaged 19 rebounds a game one season

:x

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Drummond living that life.

Shorty got partied.

 

[seymore cake]

I "thought" tho that they wanted to show as a Big 3. Weren't they all Adidas guys? Oh wait, no, Grant was Fila huh?

I just thought I remember the rumors back then, pre social media and all that, but like radio shows and what not where everyone was saying Grant, Tim, and Tracy, T-Mac bein the third wheel that became the only real thing ORLD got. Grant was already hurt, they all just figured he would get healthy.

And I know I remember they were on Tim's door at 12:01, and he leaned, but in the end decided to stay. Wonder how close he actually came.

OH for sure, that woudl've been the original Big 3. They were definitely trying to go after all 3. However, Timmy decided to stay but once Grant signed, Tmac signed. I think even before any of those guys signed, I remember Eddie Jones being in the mix as well. Duncan, Grant, Tmac and Eddie were the top FAs if i remember correctly.

I remember those whispers... Hell they were pretty damn loud. I doubt Mac develops the way he did if that happened. I'm not even sure he becomes that version of himself w a healthy Grant. Would've been fun as hell to watch that's for sure.

 

[cashbanks]

This is a joke right I didn't see someone say Antoine walker was better than Vince I didn't see it

This Vince slander is absolutely disgusting lots of revisionist history

 

[victor page]

 

[you big dummy]

Drummond living that life.

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[antidope]

Drummond living that life.

This will be discussed on Inside the NBA at some point.

 

[friscostylez]

Great Grantland Article on TMac
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9616069/the-unfortunate-tale-t-mac

damn near dropped some tears after reading this article. at all the crappy teammates he had to endure playing with

 

[hood17]

......Yeah we know what's going on in that pic.

I'm sure Billups and Sheed will have a talk with young Andre soon

 

[hood17]

......Yeah we know what's going on in that pic.

I'm sure Billups and Sheed will have a talk with young Andre soon

 

[victor page]

How Fab Melo find his way out of the league after one year 

 

[Peep Game]

This icarly chick

 

[airjordan jb23]

rodman

that drummond pic

 

[big j 33]

I'm surprised Fab lasted this long.

 

[beh235]

Seriously why isnt Mitch Richmond in the hof?

Mitch gets way too much love on NT. He was a good scorer on bad teams basically his entire career. As a #1 option, he carried his teams to exactly one playoff appearance, which was an 8th-seed Sacramento team. As for his other three career playoff appearances, he was either the second-best player (Mullin’s Warriors) or a total non-factor (2002 Lakers).

Over the last two weeks, we’ve debated the Hall of Fame candidacy for AI and T-Mac, two players who are definitely better than Mitch. Two players who also dragged garbage teams to the playoffs (and the Finals, in the case of AI). Mitch couldn’t even do that. He was a nice player, but that’s about it.

Career Averages:

Mitch Richmond (14 years) :  21 PPG  3.5 APG   3.9 RPG  1.2 SPG   6 all star apperances

Vice Carter : (16 years, so far)  20.8 PPG  3.8 APG  5.0 RPG 1.1 SPG    8 all star apperances

Tracy McGrady (15 year career) 19.6 PPG  4.4 APG  5.6 RPG  1.2 SPG  9 all star appearances

Allen Iverson (14 years) 26.7 PPG  6.2 APG  3.7 RPG  2.2 SPG     11 All star appearances

Mitch basically played alone his years in Sacramento. He might as well have been the #1 and #2 option. Meanwhile in the West  battling, Stockon and Malone, Payton and Kemp, Clyde Drexler, Cliff Robinson, and Terry Porter, Tim Hardaway and Chris Mullin, David Robinson and Sean Elliot, and even teams that didn't have multiple good players still had decent talent as teams. The Kings were abysmal, that's not Mitch's fault he never got help. That's on management. That was the knock on him, really good player bad teams, I mean really bad. I'll give you Jim Les, Bill Wennington, Pete Chillcut, Lionel Simmon etc and you make the playoffs consistently with a team with a "me first" attitude. Coaches like Garry St. Jean and Eddie Jordan didn't have that winning culture. It didn't get there until Adelman got there and that's when they traded Mitch for Webber. As far as Mitch being in the HOF, his numbers are comparable to the aforementioned players so that's out the window. T-Mac never made it out the first round as a #1 option so there's that. It's further than Mitch, but doesn't make or break HOF candidacy in my book.

AI made the finals in '01, but he beat a .500 Pacer team in round 1, an old Raptor team in round 2 with prime Vince, and a young Bucks team in round 3 (the last two series that went 7) all when the east was basically declining. AI definitely deserved MVP that year despite averaging 31.1 PPG on basically averaging 11/25 shooting for all intents and purposes. One of the main reasons why he got there was because of Coach Brown. When Brown left, Iverson didn't even get past the second round. 

 

[beh235]

And Andre Drummond....