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Y'all want a high pick but also want the team to win now
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Y'all want a high pick but also want the team to win now
Players will always want to win. The tank comes when thecoach orfront office prioritizes development.
100%.Hire a coach. Force an antiquated, unfamiliar system on him. Sign and draft players that don’t fit his style of coaching. Blame coach. Rinse, repeat.
I don't think anyone has ever compared Hornacek to Pop/Stephens but he is a smart basketball guy who, when given a team set up to play his preferred style of play, can get a team to significantly overachieve like he did when he led a supposedly tanking Suns to 48 wins.Look at Brad Stevens the past years or what Popovich has done for 20 years. If Hornacek was the coach of the Spurs with their current roster they'd win 20 games max without Kawhi.
Then you cut O'Quinn out of the rotation. Knicks dont have the depth on the wing to start KP at the 5 because they have 4 centers. You can't give KOQ and Kanter significant minutes without basically playing KP at the 4 regardless of what position he starts the game playing. And KOQ has been one of our better players and deserves minutes. You bench him and you are relying very heavily all of a sudden on McDermott, Ron Baker, and Lance Thomas. Not that simple. The Knicks is set up for KP to play the 4.A good coach would've also adjusted long time ago just like teams have adjusted to us.
Start Frank and bring Kanter off the bench, just like 90% of other coaches had him doing.
100%.
This team isn't constructed for the style we all want to see.
We all want to see attacking and 3s, but dont have the PG to do that stuff.
We all want to see a faster pace but we always have a low post center next to Porzingis at almost all times because we have 15 on the roster, which is why I never loved the return we got from the Melo trade. Sure, we were never getting equal value. I love Kanter and he is a very nice young player. But he's also a low post center with a bad contract we will most likely lose for nothing or overpay if we choose to resign him. I wish we would have at least gotten pieces back for Melo that filled team needs. I would have gladly accepted a worse player than Kanter who helped fill a need and had some potential over Kanter.
We all want KP to go back to what he was doing early in the season but he has been targeted on defense and doesn't have the help necessary to get off clean looks. Plus we have 35 centers on the team so we play KP at the 4 and rely on him to post up smaller defenders and shoot over them instead of playing the 5 and relying on pick and rolls without someone else clogging the lane and him taking bigger slower defenders off the dribble and shooting 3s because they play off of him, something that I have been emphasizing since the day we drafted him but the front office seems to always start a Robin Lopez or Noah or Kanter with him... That's the main reason why he either shoots it 10-25 or some **** or has a game like the Lakers where he shoots above 50% but on like 12 shot attempts.
Hornacek is doing what he can with the cards he is dealt. It worked extremely well in the beginning of the season because he managed to orchestrate a offense that keeps the ball moving despite having very little penetration, which is outdated in the NBA today. But defenses have caught up to it and adapted and that's the main reason we suck right now. IMO that's not on Jeff.
My main issue with Hornacek has been the rotations. He plays way too many players, we need MUCH less Baker, and more Frank, especially in a game like we had vs the Lakers. Frank came out and had a red hot start with 6 points and 3 assists almost instantly but then Hornacek goes and subs him out for Jack like he always does halfway through the 2nd quarter. Frank never got back in that groove and only winded up playing just 17 minutes compared to 26 by Jack and 13 for Baker. Jeff needs to just let Frank go and loosen the leash when he gets in a groove.
I'll blame Hornacek for **** like that. But as far as this team not running, penetrating, shooting 3s, not getting KP the clean looks he used to get (although Hornacek could let him play behind the 3 point line a little more, which he seemed to try to incorporate vs the Lakers but still with not a ton of success because he plays PF and always has a smaller quick defender on him who plays him out to the 3 point line as opposed to playing the 5 and having someone like Brook Lopez on him who he could burn by), that is all on the front office as far as I'm concerned and I've been saying that from the start of the season.
I don't think anyone has ever compared Hornacek to Pop/Stephens but he is a smart basketball guy who, when given a team set up to play his preferred style of play, can get a team to significantly overachieve like he did when he led a supposedly tanking Suns to 48 wins.
I'm not saying that Hornacek is the coach that this team needs or even that we shouldn't fire him. I'm just saying he isn't the cause of this team's issues. Not even close.