Knicks might as well go after Greg Anthony if they’re gonna go after bald former nba players w/ no coaching experience.
Stack coaches Raptors 905. But realistically that **** would never happen. If we're going through the G-League our own coach just got COY and prob has a ton more coaching experience.
It seems like most Knicks fans I interact with on social media and **** (most Knicks fans on social media are also complete morons which is why I come to this thread) are fully sold on Mark Jackson being the man. Like sold to he point where there's no other option.
How do yall feel about Mark? He seems to be the frontrunner. Personally I wouldn't hate Mark, he's actually the guy I wanted the Knicks to go with when he was considered Donnie Walsh's favorite before he hired Pringles instead. I'm a fan of the guy and I respect what he did with Golden State and think he deserves some credit for their success after he left.
But at the same time some Knicks fans like to say that he "built" that team and make it out to be like their success was inevitable with or without him because of the job he did. Like I said, I think Mark deserves some credit for that team, but honestly I think the amount is seriously exaggerated by Knicks fans who really want Mark.
For the development aspect, Mark can't get full credit. He took over the team in 2012. In his first season Curry was dealing with his ankle issues and the team sucked but Steph was already on a star player trajectory in the 2 years before Mark showed up. I'd say Don Nelson deserves most of the credit for his development. He had Klay from day 1 so he gets credit for that but Dray was a rookie who didn't get much PT and then exploded onto the scene the year after Mark left. So idk how much credit Mark truly deserves in the development of that team, although they did go from perennial bottom feeders to consistent playoff team during his tenure.
But as far as people who say he gets the credit for the Warriors success, sure part of the equation were Steph/Klay improving as players and getting Draymond in the mix, but you can't convince me that the Warriors would have reached anything like the heights they did with Mark Jackson as head coach. The Warriors, with that same gifted roster basically, but replacing Draymond with prime David Lee (who was honestly a better offensive player anyway), was a middle of the pack offensive team in almost every major category during Mark Jackson's last year. Natural player development is not what made them just above middle of the pack to basically being a historic offensive powerhouse in one ******* season.
Mark Jackson had the Warriors playing a grind out, isolation style of basketball that prioritizes slowing down the pace and playing defense. I remember him consistently being called out for having the Dubs play way too much isolation ball, similar to Scott Brooks in OKC, and now they are the best ball moving team in NBA history period.
Idk if I want a guy like that coaching this team. Idk if I want the guys who held the Warriors back offensively because he was married to a particular style. It's a major red flag for me when I see a coach married to a style of play. Being married to a style of play can work for college coaches who are the authoritarian of their programs, but in the NBA the best coaches need to prioritize personnel over style because it is a player's League first and foremost.
I always look to ******* Pat Riley as much as I hate him as the ultimate player over style coach. He ran showtime in LA, then took away from the Bad Boy Pistons to incorporate that style/mentality with the Knicks, then he did the same thing built around pick and rolls in Miami when he ran the offense through Hardaway, and then he adapted to Wade's incredible abilities. That's why he had success everywhere. I don't like coaches married to a style like Pringles or Phil or Larry Brown or Mark Jackson for what it seems, especially if that style is outdated and doesn't fit what we should be looking for.
It's actually kind of odd. I love Mark Jackson as a Johnnie/Knick (even though I honestly remember him most as a player in the ******* backcourt with Reggie during my lifetime). I wanted Mark to coach the Knicks in 2008 because I wanted somebody who could bring defensive minded basketball back to the Garden, like the Pistons or the Celtics or Spurs were winning with at the time, and I liked the idea of a young coach who could develop with the team because everybody knew we had 2 years of sucking left, so I thought that Mackson as a snart young NYer ex-Knick ex-Donnie Walsh favorite would be a perfect fit.
I hated D'Antoni and didn't think that his small ball, 3-point shooting, no defense playing style was capable of winning a championship or winning in NY. I didn't think it was sustainable without Steve Nash either. I still think Pringles is one of the most overrated/predictable coaches in NBA history, but now I actually want a coach closer to D'Antoni; someone forward thinking that could get this team playing modernized NBA basketball (since we have arguably the best small-ball glitch in the NBA right now that we don't use properly), and I don't really want Mark Jackson.
Idk, I honestly wouldn't hate it if we brought in Mark. I'm a big NYC basketball romantic, so I'm an admitted sucker for that type of ****, and he does deserve some credit for helping mold the Dubs, but at the same time I just have this feeling that if we hire Mark Jackson we're gonna spend the next 3 years or so tortured by watching the Knicks run a post up offense around KP like we used to have with Ewing.
For me, I'm still holding out hope the Knicks offer Jay Wright a blank check and he is swayed by making $10+ million more in NY than he would by staying at Nova, but realistically of the likely top targets my guy is still Jason Kidd. I'd definitely take Mark over Doc or Fiz though. Doc ******* Rivers would be an unbelievably stupid move and so stereotypical Knicks it would be like they are trying at this point.
Honestly wouldn't be upset if the Knicks shocked everybody and hired a relatively unknown assistant, just because the move would be so opposite of classic Knicks I'd have to respect it. As long as it is not an assistant from our current staff (we need to at least start establishing a culture of success here and not let losing assistants become head coaches like we have front office personnel who have done nothing but lose for 20 years now get promoted to team president
), unless it's the D-League coach because he seems to be the only coach in NY who had a good season both in terms of team success and player development. Think he might have some potential. You never would guessed JVG would be JVG, sometimes the under the radar guys are the hardest workers.
sorry for the rant. VERY slow day at work.
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