Official 2017 Boxing Thread: 12/16 - Billy Joe Saunders vs. David Lemieux HBO

monstar · May 9, 2017

illphillip said:
Makes more sense now. So HBO should be heated at both if Kovalev was supposed to be there for an interview during the Canelo/Chavez card.

So Kovalev or his team posted that video?

Crazy how this comes out when initially it was made to seem like Ward was the only one at fault when in reality Kovalev shouldve been there the day of the fight to shoot that.

The faceoff with Kellerman imo has only been good with Cotto and Margarito and part of that aside from the backstory was the fact it came on right after a big card. Im not going out of my way to watch that the next day after all the hype

both are to blame but

at Kov for not being at that fight for the announcement

illphillip · May 9, 2017

Interview at the Canelo/Chavez fight likely gets more eyes too.

Can't wait to see all the "scared" talk about Kovalev that will undoubtedly come from all of the objective posters in here

AEA18 · May 9, 2017

Freddie Gordy said:
What has kovolev said that people call him racist?

Pascal referenced Kovalev’s description of 2013 foe Ismayl Sillakh as a “monkey” and has frequently been willing to discuss a plainly stupid tweet dropped (and since deleted) by the Krusher early last year that depicted his chief rival Adonis Stevenson as a monkey wearing boxing gloves.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-jean-pascal-has-taken-ugly-unfortunate-turn

Kovalev is trying to psych out Ward by portraying the mild-mannered 33-year-old as a racist caricature who, in a faux text-message exchange, would type out “Oh my god n—a get off my d–k” and “hold this L f—-t cry baby,” only to send “Whats up Sergey.”

Kovalev has a pattern of using race-baiting or outright racist tactics to promote a fight. In 2015, he tweeted (and deleted) a photo of him pointing to a child’s T-shirt with an image of a gorilla and wrote “Adonis looks great!!!” — a reference to fighter Adonis Stevenson, who is black. He was accused of being racist in the run-up to his fight with Jean Pascal, who also is black.

http://nypost.com/2017/04/18/russian-boxing-villain-drops-taunt-video-filled-with-n-bombs/

Anybody still trying to defend this clown after he repeatedly crosses the line is a SWS themselves.

John David Jackson a fool for training him.

Don't care how good he is in the ring, I'll never root for this racist POS.

mgrand15 · May 9, 2017

The monkey stuff is way out of line. The text message thing is a huge reach. That description of it is wild.

freakydestroyer · May 9, 2017

I do want to see Joshua fight Vitali Klitschko, even though he's been retired for who knows how many years.

blackcease · May 10, 2017

illphillip said:
Can't wait to see all the "scared" talk about Kovalev that will undoubtedly come from all of the objective posters in here

AEA18 said:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...s-jean-pascal-has-taken-ugly-unfortunate-turn

http://nypost.com/2017/04/18/russian-boxing-villain-drops-taunt-video-filled-with-n-bombs/

Anybody still trying to defend this clown after he repeatedly crosses the line is a SWS themselves.

John David Jackson a fool for training him.

Don't care how good he is in the ring, I'll never root for this racist POS.

Word.

mgrand15 said:
The monkey stuff is way out of line. The text message thing is a huge reach. That description of it is wild.

What exactly is a reach

Baby Newport · May 10, 2017

Yeah thats a bad look, i was gonna type something about kovalev but sounded like a hypocrite.

Hes still beating the **** out of ward tho no denying that.

freakydestroyer · May 10, 2017

What do you guys think about Crawford vs Felix Diaz?

Bobby Layne · May 10, 2017

Meh?

Idongo could be interesting if Bud doesn't get Manny in the fall. A fight against Mikey could be dope but he's on the other side of the street.

freakydestroyer · May 10, 2017

Bobby Layne said:
Meh?

Idongo could be interesting if Bud doesn't get Manny in the fall. A fight against Mikey could be dope but he's on the other side of the street.

Who is the European guy lurking in the background, I think he's supposed to be Indongo's mandatory?

And what's going on with Viktor Pistol he hasn't had a fight since he lost to Bud. In a week and a half Bud will have fought twice since.

Lake Shore Drive · May 10, 2017

I got Bud winning, just hoping that the fight will be more entertaining than the Postol bout.

Can someone tell me how is this man still fighting?!?!? :rollin

Let's Go Champ!!

Bobby Layne · May 10, 2017

freakydestroyer said:
Bobby Layne said:

Meh?

Idongo could be interesting if Bud doesn't get Manny in the fall. A fight against Mikey could be dope but he's on the other side of the street.

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Who is the European guy lurking in the background, I think he's supposed to be Indongo's mandatory?

And what's going on with Viktor Pistol he hasn't had a fight since he lost to Bud. In a week and a half Bud will have fought twice since.

Sergey Lipinets, he's a Kazakh that's been on some PBC cards. I haven't seen him fight to give you an opinion on him one way or another tbh.

mgrand15 · May 10, 2017

BlackCease said:
Word.
What exactly is a reach

He reposted a dumb meme. People are acting like he made that himself - he couldn't do that if he tried. I've seen a bunch of those with NBA players - generally the same concept with the same language being used.

AEA18 · May 10, 2017

freakydestroyer said:
What do you guys think about Crawford vs Felix Diaz?

Hope Bud KOs that "all lives matter" clown

blackcease · May 10, 2017

mgrand15 said:
He reposted a dumb meme. People are acting like he made that himself - he couldn't do that if he tried. I've seen a bunch of those with NBA players - generally the same concept with the same language being used.

Nah. You don't have responsibility removed for what gets posted just because you didn't make it. Him putting that up, especially considering his history, is a bad look, period.

The **** is also just corny. Nothing about Ward says he talks like that, so now you basically just got this racist white guy putting up a meme with a ****** up negative caricature of what this black guy would supposedly say, which really doesn't fall in line with his character at all. Yeah I'm all the way cool on that corny ****.

boxer15 · May 10, 2017

I just try to enjoy Kovalev fights while avoiding anything personal about him. The last 24/7 or all access he was in was cool to show how he grew up extra rough in Russia, but he is definitively a racist. I can't get down with that, nor am I going to believe he says or posts things as a joke. Homeboy grew up in a very racist part of the world, he's not kidding.

I'd also assume him killing dude earlier in his career changed him. Or he was always a heartless monster.

mr highness · May 10, 2017

Canelo vs Chavez Jr did an estimated 1 million PPV buys. That means close to a million people got jipped.

Canelo vs GGG can do around 1.8 million for sure.

illphillip · May 10, 2017

Bobby Layne · May 10, 2017

boxer15 said:
I just try to enjoy Kovalev fights while avoiding anything personal about him. The last 24/7 or all access he was in was cool to show how he grew up extra rough in Russia, but he is definitively a racist. I can't get down with that, nor am I going to believe he says or posts things as a joke. Homeboy grew up in a very racist part of the world, he's not kidding.

I'd also assume him killing dude earlier in his career changed him. Or he was always a heartless monster.

He's joked around about that situation before

, besides that puff piece that Egis and Main Events was behind, he's never really seemed like he cared. I'm not saying he should be guilt ridden by it but there's no reason to make jokes about it even if the family is wrongly accusing you of his death.

I always found it kind of funny that no one in the boxing media ever mentioned how his mother is still living like that despite Kov being what he is now. With the rumors about how a lot of Russian NHL players have been extorted by the Russian Mob over the years, it really makes you think about how much money he is actually seeing.

Bobby Layne · May 11, 2017

I'll try and translate as best as I can.

If Jr wants to keep boxing Jr has to leave a lot of things. He needs to change who he is completely. He can't keep going doing things his way, and not giving a ****. It's sad to say this but, when a person didn't give a ****, he's a **** up. Doesn't care about critics doesn't care about anything. It's been very difficult and very sad for me to see how your son MY sons don't wanna change, don't wanna learn that this is a profession where you must respect the public. Training wherever and whenever they want, and they're grown men already , David I cant... I'm gonna get a heart attack or seizure for worrying..

That's what be says word for word.

You dont even need to understand Spanish to see the pain and embarrassment in Sr's eyes. He aint never going to forgive Jr for this