Official 2018 Boxing Thread: 12/30 - Ito vs. Chuprakov, Shiro vs. Juarez ESPN+

[boxer15]

arent you suppose go TAKE it from the champ?

Goldenboy.

 

[GTA 809]

arent you suppose go TAKE it from the A side?

FTFY

 

[illphillip]

I personally never liked that narrative.

If Canelo was on his bike all night and just trying to land more jabs than GGG, then that narrative might apply. Just looking to “out point”.

But that wasn’t the case.

Ultimately the guy that wins more rounds is supposed to win the fight. So it just depends on who you saw winning more rounds.

Argument can probably be made for both in that sense.

 

[keko jones]

I see a lot of people saying this was a clear win for GGG, I personally didnt see it that way. Either fighter could of have left victorious. A draw wasnt far fetch either.

One judge had it a draw. The other two seem to have been pressured to give the fight to someone, but of they would of have kept it 100% and gave that last round to GGG, it would of have been a draw by all three and that's what a few people here saw.

 

[illphillip]

https://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.s..._from_atlantic_city_shot_dead_in_las_veg.html

RIP

 

[monstar]

I love how cats really continue to discredit ggg jab.

That aint a typical jab. You can literally hear the thud on connect.

Canelo fought a hell of a fight but i still dint see how he won.

And i repped buddy who gave sweet p a shout out yes dlh robbed him

 

[thegreatbean]

To me, GGG’s jab was causing Canelo to miss or hit gloves or arms.
I had GGG winning. Yea Canelo stood there in the middle of the ring. But imo GGG was always in control.

We were saying is that blood from canela or his dye from his hair. Lol
Instant classic fight thou. I will not pay for the 3rd fight.

 

[freakydestroyer]

I could see 7-5 either way or a draw. So how is the result a robbery? I couldn't score it 8-4 in favor of either fighter. My guess is that people subconsciously scored the rounds when Canelo was rocked as a 10-8, even though there was no knockdown.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Whole lotta salty cats who never even post in here.

On to AJ vs Povetkin.

 

[itshlittt]

FTFY

ayo you sus

 

[Xennial]

Bivol wants to fight again in Dec, Badou Jack or Joe Smith Jr. freakydestroyer I think his team will go with Smith rather than Jack right now what do you think.

Also I don't know if anyone else follows this last group of HWs from amateurs to Pros but 1 of this Croatian HW Hrgovic is 1 of the more promising ones just beat Amir Mansour heres some highlights

 

[niketalker23]

arent you suppose go TAKE it from the champ?

No, you’re supposed to win more rounds doesn’t matter who the **** the champ is.

 

[the red model]

I think it was a draw but Canelo looked impressive. GGG look better than in the first fight but there were a number of times where it looked like he could have knocked Canelo out then didn't. Canelo is a great boxer.

 

[Bobby Layne]

IIRC ME has Bivol for one more fight and then he’s off to Matchroom/DAZN supposedly.

 

[InTheHallway]

Try this one on for size ...

If Mayweather was subjected to the same scoring and criticism that GGG was the last two fights, he would have at least 3 losses ...

 

[blackcease]

Try this one on for size ...

If Mayweather was subjected to the same scoring and criticism that GGG was the last two fights, he would have at least 3 losses ...

No. Mayweather was never hit as clean and as often in a fight as GGG was vs Canelo

 

[bronconation24]

First fight I could see how glovkin got robbed of a win. Second fight, I don’t see it as much and honestly do like the result. I know how you win a boxing match is to win more rounds than your openent. But as far as ring presence and throwing hands, I don’t thing a lot of people expected that from saul. Canelo also worked glovkins body and his age and fatigue sure started showing in the later round. I do agree that ggg jab is highly undervalued. AmaZing fights none the less.

 

[freakydestroyer]

Bivol wants to fight again in Dec, Badou Jack or Joe Smith Jr. freakydestroyer I think his team will go with Smith rather than Jack right now what do you think.

Also I don't know if anyone else follows this last group of HWs from amateurs to Pros but 1 of this Croatian HW Hrgovic is 1 of the more promising ones just beat Amir Mansour heres some highlights

I also am not sure what his promotional situation is right now. But either way, the Smith fight should be the path of least resistance. Both fights present different elements and are just as interesting. Ultimately, we want to see Bivol vs E. Alvarez.

 

[Bobby Layne]

 

[DADDYFATSACKS]

Try this one on for size ...

If Mayweather was subjected to the same scoring and criticism that GGG was the last two fights, he would have at least 3 losses ...

Bruh stay in the politics thread with your trash takes

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Looks someone in the Garcia camp finally talked some sense into Mikey.
Not a smart move to move up in weight just to get killed by Spence.
Don't know why this doesn't get more traction but if Mikey is looking to take risks he might as well go see Loma.
If Mikey really felt that confident he could've beaten Linares I don't see why not take the risk and see Hi-Tech.....It's an L regardless. Spence or Loma pick your poison.

Now where does this put Spence? Straight to the Porter bout or does he take on another bum before that?

P.S. Really wanna see Teofimo Lopez vs Karlos Balderas

 

[Bobby Layne]

Looks someone in the Garcia camp finally talked some sense into Mikey.
Not a smart move to move up in weight just to get killed by Spence.
Don't know why this doesn't get more traction but if Mikey is looking to take risks he might as well go see Loma.
If Mikey really felt that confident he could've beaten Linares I don't see why not take the risk and see Hi-Tech.....It's an L regardless. Spence or Loma pick your poison.

Now where does this put Spence? Straight to the Porter bout or does he take on another bum before that?

P.S. Really wanna see Teofimo Lopez vs Karlos Balderas

Bob's not going to give him that fight until he absolutely has to because of the bad blood, and there might be some network barriers involved. Mikey hasn't exactly been clear as to whether he signed a longterm deal with SHO or not.

Mikey's going to do what he wants but both his brother and his Dad are against the Spence fight. His Dad wants him to fight Pac.

Honestly I think Mikey is just running his mouth but we'll see. I'd like to see him fight Commey, Linares, and the winner of the WBSS next.

 

[Bobby Layne]

 

[EnvyTheGreen]

I love how cats really continue to discredit ggg jab.

That aint a typical jab. You can literally hear the thud on connect.

Canelo fought a hell of a fight but i still dint see how he won.

And i repped buddy who gave sweet p a shout out yes dlh robbed him

There were countless instances where a Golovkin jab did more damage than a Canelo “power” shot. GGG can beat you with just his jab. When he started landing his combos, we saw how much it hurt Canelo.

I could see 7-5 either way or a draw. So how is the result a robbery? I couldn't score it 8-4 in favor of either fighter. My guess is that people subconsciously scored the rounds when Canelo was rocked as a 10-8, even though there was no knockdown.

You cannot find 7 for Canelo. 5 is being generous. 6 would be a gift. 7 is a robbery.

First fight I could see how glovkin got robbed of a win. Second fight, I don’t see it as much and honestly do like the result. I know how you win a boxing match is to win more rounds than your openent. But as far as ring presence and throwing hands, I don’t thing a lot of people expected that from saul. Canelo also worked glovkins body and his age and fatigue sure started showing in the later round. I do agree that ggg jab is highly undervalued. AmaZing fights none the less.

Exceeding expectations and surprising with the style he fought doesn’t mean he should be awarded rounds. He did very well. Golovkin did better. For as aggressive as so many claim Canelo was, how often was GGG backed to the ropes? GGG used his superior footwork and jab to neutralize Canelo’s surprising aggresiveness.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Someone needs to take this clown out.
I'm hoping Boo Boo can do the job, if not anyone else....Charlo, Jacobs, Mungia, Derev, anyone.