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[storm2006]

It's far from useless IMO. Basketball discourse has become totally results based analysis and it's ridiculous. X player didn't deserve MVP because they didn't win the chip, and being that the one infallible player that exists; Michael Jordan suffered the same loss it will help quell the nonsense.

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t all of the greats have early postseason woes with the exception of Magic and Kareem? Even with Kareem, after that Year 2 title it took NINE more seasons until he got back with Showtime. It similarly took LeBron nine seasons to get his first. After Shaq left, it took Kobe seven seasons to get his first as the man. It took KD a decade.

I don’t know why the media or fans continuously look at this as if it’s some sort of shock. Winning a title extends FAR beyond the individual talent of a single player. It takes a mix of elite #2, very damn good supporting cast, great coaching and a wise front office. Those things were are all the difference makers for the players I mentioned above.

Coach Budenrivers, Khris George and the Milwaukee Bucks ain’t it. This isn’t rocket science.

 

[reformeDWS]

heated exchanges aren't per se bad, but time, place, message, and messengers are so critical in those moments.

 

[MVP]

Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t all of the greats have early postseason woes with the exception of Magic and Kareem? Even with Kareem, after that Year 2 title it took NINE more seasons until he got back with Showtime. It similarly took LeBron nine seasons to get his first. After Shaq left, it took Kobe seven seasons to get his first as the man. It took KD a decade.

I don’t know why the media or fans continuously look at this as if it’s some sort of shock. Winning a title extends FAR beyond the individual talent of a single player. It takes a mix of elite #2, very damn good supporting cast, great coaching and a wise front office. Those things were are all the difference makers for the players I mentioned above.

Coach Budenrivers, Khris George and the Milwaukee Bucks ain’t it. This isn’t rocket science.

Correct, but those guys didn't really have the glaring limitations in their individual games that Giannis has. The Bucks are good enough to be dominant during the regular season, but Giannis being able to be neutralized in playoff basketball is a big of a reason as any for their shortcomings.

 

[aepps20]

What are your thoughts on Jaylen Brown good sir?

He works hard but he gives me Libbie vibes.

 

[MVP]

Giannis is pretty much 2009-2010 Bron on the Cavs to some extent with more limitations to his own individual game.

2009- Cavs #1 seed in league, Bron gets MVP loses in conference finals.
2019- Bucks #1 seed in league, Bron loses in conference finals.

2010- Cavs #1 seed in league again, Bron gets MVP again, loses in conference semis
2020- Bucks #1 seed in league again, Bron gets MVP again, loses in conference semis

 

[Quincy McCall]

 

[storm2006]

Correct, but those guys didn't really have the glaring limitations in their individual games that Giannis has. The Bucks are good enough to be dominant during the regular season, but Giannis being able to be neutralized in playoff basketball is a big of a reason as any for their shortcomings.

Giannis is pretty much 2009-2010 Bron on the Cavs to some extent with more limitations to his own individual game

Not sure if you heard SAS say this or not but do you agree with his take that even if you’re a dominant big like Giannis in order to win a championship you still need that ELITE guard/wing play like Kareem has with Magic and Shaq had with Kobe and Wade?

I definitely agree he’s limited but as you kind of alluded to, the roster doesn’t lend itself to masking his limitations.

 

[MIKE LOWERY]

The problem is everyone keeps comparing Giannis to Bron when Giannis is a supremely talented big. Not a wing.

Still think it's more front office than Budenholzer in MIL. Like, he's bad, but not the worst thing here.

Brogdon was everything they needed and they didn't want to pay him. It is what it is.

Same thing with people clamoring for Toronto to repeat based off their reg season performance. You don't lose a star, replace him with nothing, and expect to repeat.

Brogdon was 50-40-90, primary ballhandler/playmaker and a great defender to boot. You don't let him go and expect to get better. This ain't addition by subtraction here.


But now that the threat of losing Giannis and returning to mediocrity is real, you want to sit down have brunch and promise him you'll go into the luxury tax improve the team? Yeah aite. If I was Giannis I'd ask for something crazy or trade me.

 

[dman14]

lakers supporting cast showed up after the seeding games
only chance for denver is if they go cold. i dont see that happening
lakers in 5

 

[trynafeelmink]

Dwight Howard is going to do fine with Jokic, It's Javale who i'm worried about.

 

[had pants]

 

[Cashflow]

This is corny.

 

[rolaholic]

That comic

 

[Based Jesus]

Who drew this stupid *** ****?

 

[reformeDWS]

I like the idea of Javale and Dwight wearing down Jokic, then AD taking advantage of Jokic at the end of games.

But I think Vogel is smart enough to ditch the centers if necessary.

The rockets killed Jokic over the last couple of years because Capela would literally just outrun him down the court. Dwight/Javale can definitely be viable in targeted spurts if they can consistently make Jokic run during his minutes and avoid getting torched in drop PnR coverage during Murray's minutes.

 

[pmatic]

The rockets killed Jokic over the last couple of years because Capela would literally just outrun him down the court. Dwight/Javale can definitely be viable in targeted spurts if they can consistently make Jokic run during his minutes and avoid getting torched in drop PnR coverage during Murray's minutes.

Javale will run the floor in the 15 minutes he'll play, and Dwight should wear Jokic down on box outs/defense in the 15 minutes he'll play. Then have AD at center at the end of each quarter as usual.

 

[storm2006]

Who drew this stupid *** ****?

leavemeglazzies

 

[SORIANOTRON]

MPJ my guy, I think he’s going to develop into a force for years to come....

but my guy can’t even SPELL defense right now

as a laker fan I HOPE denver put him on AD

 

[MVP]

Javale will run the floor in the 15 minutes he'll play, and Dwight should wear Jokic down on box outs/defense in the 15 minutes he'll play. Then have AD at center at the end of each quarter as usual.

This. Although with the propensity of both Javele and Dwert to pick up silly fouls it'll probably be closer to 10 minutes.

 

[reformeDWS]

This. Although with the propensity of both Javele and Dwert to pick up silly fouls it'll probably be closer to 10 minutes.

literally came to say this. bless his heart, but dwight still hasn't figured out that refs know he's liable to just throw and shove smaller guards when rebounding, and they both are pure liabilities guarding the perimeter in any PnR coverage because they're both so handsy.

 

[JD617]

85 to 16 in first place votes. Giannis got over 5 times as many. So all that complaining all season about LeBron winning MVP was all for nothing.

Giannis is gonna win in a landslide, no sense getting worked up about some dip**** like Bill Plaschke on a show that's specifically designed for people to yell/argue about things.

Oh.

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

I think we can get by with Murray even if he gets off for a game or 2. Shutting down Joker or making him work/getting him in foul trouble will be a death blow to DEN as he unlocks everything for them and the other players.

I don't think we'll be doubling much at all on Joker and just selectively on Murray if he starts cooking.

And the reason we don't need to double Joker is cause we got enough bigs to give him all he can handle and then some.

That's why Lakers will advance to the championship round.

You know dam well Dwight and Javale bout to avg more than 8 min per game lol

 

[lovehateself]

This. Although with the propensity of both Javele and Dwert to pick up silly fouls it'll probably be closer to 10 minutes.

if so, put morris at the 5, at least he'll muck it up for a few minutes

 

[dathbgboy]

I'm holding out some form of hope that MPJ can do more than just "be there" on the court. We shall see though.

 

[Cashflow]

Alphabet is GONE GONE