OFFICIAL 2023-2024 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFSEASON THREAD *THE START OF THE MICHIGAN WOLVERINE DYNASTY; UPDATE 1/24/2024: THE END OF THE MICHIGAN DYNASTY*

[jpzx]

Leave it to Clay Travis to be the advocate for men, and probably Danny Masterson.

 

[aepps20]

Clay Travis was probably a participant in Birmingham

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Not saying he should still be employed since on optics alone he's horny enough to get canned

but I'm still unclear on what exactly the woman's take on this is in terms of any of the relationship being intimate or not. Is she denying they never had any romantic consensual moments

from what I read, Tucker says "it was all consensual" including "intimate"

 

[atlsfinest]

The Spartans got out of that atrocious contract at the expense of some women, huh?

The Tennessee situation with Butch Jones created a cottage industry of programs launching internal investigations on their own coaches in order to get them fired with cause to avoid buyouts.

Auburn tried this same thing with Bryan Harrison lasted off-season and we will only see it more going forward.

As bad as the situation is with Michigan State, if they were winning in a high level do you think this story still comes out?

 

[651akathepaul]

As bad as the situation is with Michigan State, if they were winning in a high level do you think this story still comes out?

Considering the source...absolutely.

 

[nako xl]

These are the people caping for Mel:

 

[nako xl]

Not saying he should still be employed since on optics alone he's horny enough to get canned

but I'm still unclear on what exactly the woman's take on this is in terms of any of the relationship being intimate or not. Is she denying they never had any romantic consensual moments

from what I read, Tucker says "it was all consensual" including "intimate"

She was technically an employee and subordinate. It doesn’t matter.

Even if it WAS consensual he still ****** up. Especially if they didn’t mutually report the relationship to MSU. Anyone who is arguing for him is missing that point. Once he admitted to doing it, this whole thing was over. He’s just dragging it out now.

 

[nako xl]

The Tennessee situation with Butch Jones created a cottage industry of programs launching internal investigations on their own coaches in order to get them fired with cause to avoid buyouts.

Auburn tried this same thing with Bryan Harrison lasted off-season and we will only see it more going forward.

As bad as the situation is with Michigan State, if they were winning in a high level do you think this story still comes out?

Yes.

Do you not realize how absolutely bat **** crazy it is to do THIS to THIS particular person? And when you hired her specifically to talk to your players about not doing THIS very thing? If I was MSU’s president I’d have fired him yesterday just for incompetence and dared him to sue us.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

UT pulled something twice in a row as they essentially narc’ed on themselves to try and get from under Pruitt’s contract

 

[aepps20]

Considering the source...absolutely.

I agree 100%. They were absolutely and justifiably dragged for Larry Scumbag Nassar so winning or losing is irrelevant when it involves predatory behavior against women. If this were a different program Mel might and that's a huge might, get more protection (A&M, ND or LSU) but this is the right outcome.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

She was technically an employee and subordinate. It doesn’t matter.

Even if it WAS consensual he still ****ed up. Especially if they didn’t mutually report the relationship to MSU. Anyone who is arguing for him is missing that point. Once he admitted to doing it, this whole thing was over. He’s just dragging it out now.

I don’t care about the dude at all. I just simply want to know the story or at least her version because it’s so weird

 

[dacomeup]

I don’t care about the dude at all. I just simply want to know the story or at least her version because it’s so weird

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I read that the other day when it was first posted

I didn’t see anywhere in the article explaining their supposed many lengthy late night phone calls

 

[dacomeup]

I read that the other day when it was first posted

I didn’t see anywhere in the article explaining their supposed many lengthy late night phone calls

It’s a Title IX investigation that’s currently underway. This isn’t a claim that’s been filed with the courts. You’re unfortunately not going to get all of the details publicly at this stage, unless it’s off the record or leaked stories

 

[rolaholic]

 

[pmatic]

 

[akajae]

I read that the other day when it was first posted

I didn’t see anywhere in the article explaining their supposed many lengthy late night phone calls

This article mentions their phone calls.

Tracy's phone bills show that Tucker and Tracy spoke on the phone at least 27 times – an average of once every two weeks for a half hour. Many of the phone calls happened at night because of their work schedules, both said. They spoke most often in the fall of 2021, when Tucker was leading MSU to an 11-2 record.

 

[Dark Brandon]

As a Cal fan, I agree with the judge’s decision. Everybody else is on the way out so OSU and Wazzu should be the only two members deciding the bleak future of the conference.

They really should just try and merge with the MWC but retain the P12 name.

 

[pmatic]

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Outside of the story about the Spurs player flashing his therapist— this has to be the weirdest horny story in a long time

In both instances not sure what to believe

 

[witnesskb24]

If it was consensual (though still wrong since he’s married) whatever but if it wasn’t, why of all people would he do this with her?

 

[casper90403]

He risked it all for her wow.

why does she look really familiar to me?

 

[casper90403]

the power of poon takes down another man.

Man, didn't even dabble in it. Just harassed her. Come on man. With everything that's on the line with the one person who is there to teach your squad of this very thing. Sheesh. Big dummy.

 

[nako xl]

If it was consensual (though still wrong since he’s married) whatever but if it wasn’t, why of all people would he do this with her?

Her trainings talk about getting clear and affirmative consent to engage in any sexual activity. Presumably he was involved in administering this training to his players. Did he get clear consent that night that he decided to jerk it on the phone? Probably not considering he said "she seemed cool with it and didn't complain until 4 months after."

Let's say for a second, that she IS being untruthful. I understand why he is trying to make it clear he didn't do anything sexual or intimate WHILE she was being paid by the university. I get that it's a weird legal grey area, I really do. But it doesn't matter. He's the boss and it looks bad. He has the highest level of scrutiny. He should have known better.

EDIT

Also, the words "intimate" and "adult" are doing a lot of heavy lifting when he's describing their relationship. It reads like there definitely wasn't any acknowledged romance before he wanked on the phone and they definitely weren't physical. Otherwise he would have said so clearly, but his lawyer is using ambiguous language there.

 

[nako xl]

why does she look really familiar to me?

She's Brenda Tracy. She was assaulted by 4 men (2 players) at Oregon State in the late 90s. She works as a prominent anti-sexual assault speaker and consultant for universities now. You've definitely seen her before.