Official Eminem - Relapse Thread - May 19th

Originally Posted by BWS FOOT SOLDIER

If you are counting iTunes sales he already beat out Wayne.
since itunes IS part of soundscan then we are lol ... how do you know that though?
 
Originally Posted by BWS FOOT SOLDIER

If you are counting iTunes sales he already beat out Wayne.

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people NEVER sell that much on iTunes


stop bull $%#++*$! or provide sources
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Careful What You Wish For is
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how could people not think itunes sales matter when they are the number 1 music retailer currently in the country, selling more music than Walmart, Best Buyand any other music store.

i still think its funny that Lilstar reads Mark Levin and listens to Eminem
 
Originally Posted by IncredibleEv

how could people not think itunes sales matter when they are the number 1 music retailer currently in the country, selling more music than Walmart, Best Buy and any other music store.

i still think its funny that Lilstar reads Mark Levin and listens to Eminem
if you havent figured it out yet, I a) like what i like b) dont care what other people think 3.) am odd ...

Liberty and Tyranny is the best book ive read up until this point in my life ... im on my second go round and have researched the things he talks about and theaccuracy is crazy ...
 
right but the funniest part is eminem hates people like you. dont mean to be a ##%* but cmon...i don't care how accurate what he says is its all bull butthats for another thread i guess.
 
Originally Posted by B Smooth 202

Originally Posted by BWS FOOT SOLDIER

If you are counting iTunes sales he already beat out Wayne.

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people NEVER sell that much on iTunes


stop bull $%#++*$! or provide sources
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Careful What You Wish For is
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Unless iTunes is lying to Paul Rosenberg
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Originally Posted by IncredibleEv

right but the funniest part is eminem hates people like you. dont mean to be a ##%* but cmon...i don't care how accurate what he says is its all bull but thats for another thread i guess.
me and em dont have any type of relationship than music ... could give two *##+! about his personal views of conservatism ... and the secondbolded portion doesnt make any sense ...

i promise you if you read the book (you can find it much the same way you found relapse before the 19th) theres no possible way you would disagree with thedude ... and if you did disagree and looekd up what he said, youd quickly be stuck ... i wasnt on board with everything in the book but independent researchshowed me the light ...

as for BWS ... how you know paul rosenberg? let me be a typical NTr and call ducktales EARLY lol
 
lol me and my girl had the same debate time ... im like, if i can tell you everything about the book then whats the difference? im an audible learner so iprefer this method ... plus i can listen on my way to work ...

A conservative rap fan.



i dont think you understand true conservatism ... because if you did, youd understand that without someone having true conservative values, something like the"rap industry" wouldnt exist ...
 
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

lol me and my girl had the same debate time ... im like, if i can tell you everything about the book then whats the difference? im an audible learner so i prefer this method ... plus i can listen on my way to work ...

A conservative rap fan.


i dont think you understand true conservatism ... because if you did, youd understand that without someone having true conservative values, something like the "rap industry" wouldnt exist ...

wow you are lost my dude, sucked into the conservative propaganda machine

im not saying you cant like rap AND believe in conservative values and such, but it is definitely funny to see someone who is conservative to the point thatthey actually READ, im sorry LISTEN, to a Mark Levin book as well as sweat Eminem like you do. Eminem speaks on so many anti-conservative issues and beliefs,Mark Levin, Bill O'Reily and all the others you probably enjoy on fox news would condemn you to hell, literally.

where you from?
 
In order to be a conservative rap fan you either

1. Don't know much about rap
2. Don't know much about conservatism
3. Don't know much about either

Which one is it ? I'm guessing 3.
 
Originally Posted by IncredibleEv


wow you are lost my dude, sucked into the conservative propaganda machine

im not saying you cant like rap AND believe in conservative values and such, but it is definitely funny to see someone who is conservative to the point that they actually READ, im sorry LISTEN, to a Mark Levin book as well as sweat Eminem like you do. Eminem speaks on so many anti-conservative issues and beliefs, Mark Levin, Bill O'Reily and all the others you probably enjoy on fox news would condemn you to hell, literally.

where you from?
theres no one in this world who would truly understand conservatism and not be a conservative ... unless they want their lives to be run by thegovernment ... point blank period ...

what anti conservative beliefs does em speak on? just cuz he hated bush (who wasnt a conservative for your information) and bill oreilly? lol ... seriouslydont go there with me ...

dmv ...
 
Originally Posted by M16

In order to be a conservative rap fan you either

1. Don't know much about rap
2. Don't know much about conservatism
3. Don't know much about either

Which one is it ? I'm guessing 3.

why is that? im waiting for this o so enlightening response ... and dont even start on censorship because a true conservative believes in the freedom of press... just cuz NWA was "opressed" at first you ready to jump arent you ... im waiting ...
 
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by IncredibleEv


wow you are lost my dude, sucked into the conservative propaganda machine

im not saying you cant like rap AND believe in conservative values and such, but it is definitely funny to see someone who is conservative to the point that they actually READ, im sorry LISTEN, to a Mark Levin book as well as sweat Eminem like you do. Eminem speaks on so many anti-conservative issues and beliefs, Mark Levin, Bill O'Reily and all the others you probably enjoy on fox news would condemn you to hell, literally.

where you from?
theres no one in this world who would truly understand conservatism and not be a conservative ... unless they want their lives to be run by the government ... point blank period ...


That's just Mark Levin speaking. You saying if you are anything other than a conservative we want communism and the government to run everything ?
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I'm trying to picture this in my head.. dude goes from listening about how our moral value are deteriorating to listening to umbrellas being opened in awomens vagina without missing a beat
 
people generalize WAY TOO MUCH on NT.

LilStar, some people will never understand, no point in trying to explain yourself.
 
Originally Posted by M16


That's just Mark Levin speaking. You saying if you are anything other than a conservative we want communism and the government to run everything ?
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I'm trying to picture this in my head.. dude goes from listening about how our moral value are deteriorating to listening to umbrellas being opened in a womens vagina without missing a beat
about what i expected ... earily similar to incredibleevs response "o youre just an idiot" "o you dont know anything" ...
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... and as for switching between the two, i can understand wherereality ends and fantasy starts ... i understand right from wrong ... i have a degree in economics from the university of maryland, yet i grew up in a gutterfor the first half of my life ... im an odd person i know ...
 
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

Originally Posted by IncredibleEv


wow you are lost my dude, sucked into the conservative propaganda machine

im not saying you cant like rap AND believe in conservative values and such, but it is definitely funny to see someone who is conservative to the point that they actually READ, im sorry LISTEN, to a Mark Levin book as well as sweat Eminem like you do. Eminem speaks on so many anti-conservative issues and beliefs, Mark Levin, Bill O'Reily and all the others you probably enjoy on fox news would condemn you to hell, literally.

where you from?
theres no one in this world who would truly understand conservatism and not be a conservative ... unless they want their lives to be run by the government ... point blank period ...

what anti conservative beliefs does em speak on? just cuz he hated bush (who wasnt a conservative for your information) and bill oreilly? lol ... seriously dont go there with me ...

dmv ...

i really dont want to derail the official relapse thread but i don't care what kind of conservatism you believe bush, limbaugh, levin, whoever they aretotally anti hip-hop and what hip hop stands for. you really cant tell me otherwise. alright im done with that. start a new thread if u wanna discuss this.

*and I never called you an idiot Lilstar
 
But Mark Levin believes and I quote directly: "the vile and disgusting content of much hip-hop and rap music."

I thought it was "just fantasy" ?

According to Mark Levin disgusting and vile content like that in Relapse only encourages kids to go out and be more violent.

Hypocrite much ?
 
Originally Posted by Beats05

You guys can't be serious. iTunes sales 100% count for Sound Scan record sales. It says so on the Sound Scan website and it would just be plain backwards and illogical if they didn't. A non-trivial proportion of our population do not buy physical records anymore. iTunes sales are huge. You can't seriously think that Kanye and Lil Wayne did a mil in their first weeks and digital sales didn't count. That makes no sense. Plus Billboard gets their numbers from Sound Scan, and with the importance of Billboard to the music industry, nobody would let it slide if such an enormous venue for sales in iTunes didn't help an artist's Billboard position.
Nielsen SoundScan is an information system that tracks sales of music and music video products throughout the United States and Canada. Sales data from point-of-sale cash registers is collected weekly from over 14,000 retail, mass merchant and non-traditional (on-line stores, venues, etc.) outlets. Weekly data is compiled and made available every Wednesday. Nielsen SoundScan is the sales source for the Billboard music charts.

-http://www.soundscan.com/about.html




We've already agreed to this 2 pages ago fam, but thaks for your help/input
 
M16 wrote:
But Mark Levin believes and I quote directly: "the vile and disgusting content of much hip-hop and rap music."

I thought it was "just fantasy" ?

According to Mark Levin disgusting and vile content like that in Relapse only encourages kids to go out and be more violent.

Hypocrite much ?
Dont really wanna flip this thread in to politics, but I must say...

You can have the same belief politically as someone and not agree with them when it comes to an art form...

Is it really that hard to understand someone believing in conservatism, and listening to something as "vile" as an eminem album?

Just because Levin doesnt like Em and Lilstarz does, doesnt mean they cant agree on basic political stances such as FREEDOM OF SPEECH, opposing abortion, lowertaxes/less government, etc...

Not everyone who listens to rap music is a liberal extremist...
 
Originally Posted by M16

But Mark Levin believes and I quote directly: "the vile and disgusting content of much hip-hop and rap music."

I thought it was "just fantasy" ?

According to Mark Levin disgusting and vile content like that in Relapse only encourages kids to go out and be more violent.

Hypocrite much ?

o let me make it more clear for you since you seemed to miss th epoint ... i am a CONSERVATIVE ... not a LEVINATIVE ... could care less what he thinks aboutrap or hip hop ... i said his book is very acccurate when it comes to many issues ... ive never listened to his radio show ...
 
Back to the topic at hand... If Em were to rap about a different topic on We Made You, do yall think you would like it more?

I mean, the beat is NICE, and the hook is catchy as hell... Maybe if he were to talk about something other than celebrities it would make for a better overalltrack. I still bump it based on beat and hook alone.
 
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