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Man, y'all get too emotional and that blinds y'all logically. Your spawn point will help dictate and shape your development. Saying you knew at so and so age in comparison to someone who didn't have the same upbringing as you is an asinine point. Then you factor in that everybody has different morals. Then the rise of of porn addiction. Then the different kinds of crazy porn that the youth are consuming.Sorry, stopping right there. I knew raping and abusing anybody was wrong at 17. It's not difficult to be a normal, non-piece-of-**** at 17 years old. Everything after this sentence sounds like you're handwaving his actions because he was younger, which I hope isn't the case.
Her whole family involved too, Mom and Dad.Y'all way too invested in the greenwood situation.
Shorty went and got pregnant and now has a kid with him. She must not be too bright if she was being abused or only cares about the money and lifestyle
Cultural relativism doesn't really extend to physical/sexual abuse. Sure it's possible that Greenwood's actions were influenced by his environment, but that doesn't make it okay and it shouldnt be used to defend his actions (not that you're defending him). You acknowledge his actions were wrong and he should face consequences. Losing his job seems pretty standard for the allegations, considering that he only avoided jail time for because of witness tampering, and bullying from her own parents.Man, y'all get too emotional and that blinds y'all logically. Your spawn point will help dictate and shape your development. Saying you knew at so and so age in comparison to someone who didn't have the same upbringing as you is an asinine point. Then you factor in that everybody has different morals. Then the rise of of porn addiction. Then the different kinds of crazy porn that the youth are consuming.
Wrong is wrong and he should face some form of consequences for his actions, however, if he and the victim have gotten over it through therapy and mediation privately which we the public arent aware of, its best to temper your outrage. United already suspended him for x amount of time and didnt pay him etc. It might not have the outcome YOU wanted, but for the alleged victim, they found their solution. Also comparing yourself to someone else makes no sense.
It doesn't just apply culturally. He could have grown up seeing it amongst the adults within his life. I knew something was off about him (similar to that Jalen Green kid in Houston), when that lock room video leaked. If those actions don't tell you these guys aren't addicted to all kinds of sexually explicit content, then people gotta see the signs.Cultural relativism doesn't really extend to physical/sexual abuse. Sure it's possible that Greenwood's actions were influenced by his environment, but that doesn't make it okay and it shouldnt be used to defend his actions (not that you're defending him). You acknowledge his actions were wrong and he should face consequences. Losing his job seems pretty standard for the allegations, considering that he only avoided jail time for because of witness tampering, and bullying from her own parents.
To add- United is showing they're a disgusting organization from top to bottom with this situation. If they truly believe the situation favors Greenwood, tell the public what they found.
Regarding the relationship between Greenwood and his gf, I haven't said anything about their current situation for a reason - you're right we don't know where they are in all of this. I sincerely hope they're better, that they're happy and that this IS what she wants.
The worst outcome is that she's a victim who's trapped in a cycle of violence, and nobody should want that. I don't even know if her coming out to say anything would help the situation, because the internet warriors will have decided her mindset already, and if the words don't align with their preconceived notions she'll just end up attacked further.
I haven't seen any locker room videos of Greenwood. But agreed that too many people are influenced by extreme porn. Wouldn't shock me if Greenwood had his mindset warped by porn, or yes with adults/older kids he grew up around. Regardless of the 'why,' it's just a sad situation all around. Again, I really hope the family has gone through enough therapy and had enough time to heal.It doesn't just apply culturally. He could have grown up seeing it amongst the adults within his life. I knew something was off about him (similar to that Jalen Green kid in Houston), when that lock room video leaked. If those actions don't tell you these guys aren't addicted to all kinds of sexually explicit content, then people gotta see the signs.
You're an Arsenal fan looking for an excuse to shhh on united. Just say that.United is still a disgrace.
United is still a disgrace.
To add- United is showing they're a disgusting organization from top to bottom with this situation. If they truly believe the situation favors Greenwood, tell the public what they found.
I want to know more about the Partey situation because it's really a bad look to have him employed by the club right now. If theres more that they know, tell us. If Partey is a rapist like the two (or is it three?) women claim, fire him into the sun. The cops essentially dropped the case and we don't know more than what was claimed online. So it's tougher to make a final call.Genuinely would like to know your thoughts on Arsenal then.
On #11 my stance is the same as when the audio and video came out, I prefer he never represents my club again.
I disagreeRegardless of your natural inclinations.. you do NOT need an opinion on everything.