OFFICIAL FOOTY THREAD ⚽️: Rodri wins 2024 Ballon d’Or

[rolaholic]

someone made a great point that neymar's worst move was being born in the messi era
all those expectations were put on him but imo if you just look at accolades and not expectations... neymar > pogba

Yea at club level it's not close.

He definitely would be looked at different if he played in another time but coming off what the Brazilian legends of the generation/era just before him accomplished and what his teammate accomplished at club level, it was always gonna be a superhuman task to live up to expectations...

I don't envy it at all

 

[rolaholic]

not always

Yea you guys did win it all the time Bayern caught an L

His record is still crazy against Barca though, 8 W 1 L in 9 matches and he's scored more, 8 times, in that fixture than against any other team outside of Germany. Against Messi's teams h2h that's now 10 W and 1 L

 

[LA Diggler]

How is Conte so bad in Europe

That brand of “football” is better suited for domestic leagues. Can grind out results over the long season and come out on top at the end depending on strength of league. Needing maximum points over 6 matches then more goals than a top opponent in two legs doesn’t suit his negative style. Also his best moments as a coach have come when his teams are not in Europe. He’s known for being obsessive over his game planning so looks like he can’t handle the quick turnaround as well.

 

[haicheo]

Some things never change

 

[Coupé It]

Neymar would give up his sister to have won a World Cup and be a hero in Brazil.

He’s a bust in Brazil. That’s just the way it is.

 

[jape]

Yea you guys did win it all the time Bayern caught an L

His record is still crazy against Barca though, 8 W 1 L in 9 matches and he's scored more, 8 times, in that fixture than against any other team outside of Germany. Against Messi's teams h2h that's now 10 W and 1 L

yeah it’s no secret bayern has historically killed barca

 

[jape]

Some things never change

corny especially when he’s the 2nd most decorated player ever

 

[QU!K]

The weekend had started so positively. Several players had been following Arsenal’s match against Bournemouth on Saturday from their homes and sent each other encouraging messages as Mikel Arteta’s team went 2-0 down, speculating that a shock defeat for the north Londoners could create an opening for United to re-enter the title race.

Arsenal, of course, turned their game around and won courtesy of a dramatic goal deep into injury time, meaning United had already been dealt a psychological blow before they even travelled to Liverpool.

Manchester United lost 7-0 to Liverpool on Sunday — this is what happened next

Erik ten Hag will hope that listening to Liverpool celebrate and a harsh video session will exorcise the demons of historic Anfield defeat

theathletic.com

 

[rolaholic]

Forreal though, where is Messi playing next year?

He's still got more than enough juice in the tank to compete at the highest level in Europe for at least 2/3 more years so I don't see why he'd go the MLS/Saudi route yet.

If Barca weren't in a cluster**** with the finances could definitely see a return being his best option but that doesn't seem realistic right now.

Don't know who could afford him in Italy either. That leaves Bayern and maybe the Prem? Don't think he's ever been tempted before but I'm sure he'd have his pick of PL squads if he was open to it.

Especially if Citeh don't win the title or CL, could see Pep pushing for a reunion hard in the summer.

 

[LA Diggler]

more disappointing career

pogba or neymar?

Pogba. Neymar would be viewed as the best player of the last 10 years if not for Ronaldo and Messi. Man has over 600 goal contributions in his career. His production is insane and that’s with him hardly playing anymore because defenders are allowed to do whatever to him.

 

[Coupé It]

A lot of people didn’t know basic rules yesterday.

Let me just post this.

https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/1cf301829f1cf996/original/ifab-laws-of-the-game-2020-21.pdf

 

[rolaholic]

As much as I loved the move for Neymar at the time, leaving Barca kinda backfired on him.

Everything he had hoped to accomplish individually there was automatically extinguished as soon as P$G signed the next Golden boy at the time a few weeks after him

Was never gonna rack up the accolades once Mbappe came in.

Just a shame that they still haven't been able to win the big one as a team though after everything.

 

[haicheo]

corny especially when he’s the 2nd most decorated player ever

That’s what we’re hiding behind today?

Do better.

 

[Verde Shuttles]

You can say this without any bias Messi ain't been the same player in the knockout stages in the CL. It's hard to have a player walking around vs elite teams.

 

[Verde Shuttles]

Joao Cancelo really needs get it together, you can't burn out every situation you go to

 

[Belgium]

I’m really just catching up with all of this.

Vini and Bruno were hilarious.

Ian Wright was surprised by Bruno acting like a whiny ***** on the field and sulking instead of helping he team? Has he ever watched Bruno? You could pick just about any match and find a similar situation.

 

[LA Diggler]

Y’all got me watching Neymar vids. Unplayable at his peak.



Generational.

 

[flyeed]

Ramos and CR7 are exhibit A of f around with Flo and find out.

Both are legends of the game but could have rode off into the sunset in a much more deservedly dignified way had they stayed at RM with the other old guard ushering in the new gen.

 

[flyeed]

Dream scenario. Messi reunion with Pep in City to make way for this.

Reality, this is not happening and focus on Mbappe

 

[Verde Shuttles]

Dream scenario. Messi reunion with Pep in City to make way for this.

Reality, this is not happening and focus on Mbappe

His release clause allegedly kicks in 2024, so yeah it's really not happening

 

[worldbeefreeg]

I’m still rooting for him, but unless you watched him, hard to explain how bad he is really is (even if we kind of need him out there and have been better with him on the pitch).

 

[Verde Shuttles]

That's the end of that

 

[cs02132]

Decently strong line up but my focus is on Fulham Sunday. Debut for Kiwior
Bench is looking thin again too

 

[jape]

Dream scenario. Messi reunion with Pep in City to make way for this.

Reality, this is not happening and focus on Mbappe

you were just talking about how it was a good thing y’all didn’t get haaland

 

[rolaholic]

3rd of the season and 2nd in a row