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Just like the Fenerbache fans rioting cause they had 99 points, lost the league by 3 all with only one lost during the season, you couldn't do more.
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Damn I thought Pedro Porro was Brazilian or Portuguese this whole timeJust realized Pau Torres & Pedro Porro left off the Spanish squad's for Euro's.
Thought both of those guys were really good this year, not sure how they didn't even make the provisional squad when they're are some pretty questionable inclusions.
Premier league players. Spanish federation is bitter la Liga has lost viewers and money since Cristiano and Messi leftJust realized Pau Torres & Pedro Porro left off the Spanish squad's for Euro's.
Thought both of those guys were really good this year, not sure how they didn't even make the provisional squad when they're are some pretty questionable inclusions.
For the most part it explains the IF.I think everyone knows that IF they are found guilty of 115 charges yes….that would equate to a huge penalty. But how can you not explain the IF here? Isn’t that what everyone wants to know?
I appreciate this. I have read some of the claims but will gladly plead ignorance. If they are found guilty punish them. There are rules that are in place and if they broke them then do what you got to do.For the most part it explains the IF.
I think the CAS ruling was a horrible miscarriage either way but Man City simply outlawyered the other party. They managed to get key evidence excluded and the remainder of the case relied on somewhat circumstantial evidence that was obtained through criminal means. They evidence that was allowed did contain communications explicitly laying out the elements of the conspiracy but other communications confirming that the conspiracy was implemented were excluded. There was also the issue that some of the hacked/leaked emails were parsed together. The content was accurate but the hacker merged some elements of different emails together, which helped City's defense that CAS couldn't convict them based on criminally obtained emails that contained parsed elements. CAS stated that as the basis for their ruling.
City never denied or confirmed the authenticity of the leaked emails, and they can't make that same evidence in the current IC case due to different evidentiary standards and investigative authority.
Hence why they've also obstructed the IC's cooperation demands, which succesfully stalled the case (along with challenging every procedural element and appealing every subsequent ruling) but also racked up more charges for the obstruction.
It's also a civil case instead of a criminal case so the IC doesn't need to meet a standard of beyond reasonable doubt. Even if you just look at the content of the emails, I don't see how any reasonable person could conclude that it's insufficient to argue that City likely didn't commit the offenses established by those communications. They literally spell out the elements of the conspiracy word for word, and later emails discuss payments and invoices that were part of the conspiracy.
Masking payments, inflating sponsorships through a UAE government associate who has a controlling influence of both City Group and said sponsors, structuring the payments in a specific manner and falsifying the invoices, using middlemen to put up the money, ...
It's all there in writing. If they can't find a way to get most of the evidence tossed out, it's over. Unless the IC wants to close their eyes and ears and pretend they were just writing fanfiction of course.
People who target the players, or honestly even managers, are just ignorant imo.I appreciate this. I have read some of the claims but will gladly plead ignorance. If they are found guilty punish them. There are rules that are in place and if they broke them then do what you got to do.
As a City fan im tired of the 115 narrative as if every player on the team is scum. In all honestly it is going to be quite wild if they push them down multiple leagues. The circus it will become will probably make for good television.
I ain't gonna hold you, this some of the worst logic ever.Premier league players. Spanish federation is bitter la Liga has lost viewers and money since Cristiano and Messi left
Maresca on a 5 year deal sounds like a huge compensation package waiting to happen.
Spot on, Joe Shields was big on getting Enzo as he had experience with him from City days. Shields was also big on bringing on Palmer when Pouch didn't want him along with Lavia. He is also the one pushing to get OlisePeople don't notice this. Maresca is actually the first person that Chelsea co-sporting directors appoint him as new head coach
Graham Potter got hired (September) before the club hired those two co-sporting directors (late Oct & Nov)
Owners were pressured to hire a big name manager after sacking Potter. Co-sporting directors never intended to keep Poch for a long term. Hint that they only offered a 24-month contract to Poch
According to unreliable sources, RDZ was Owner Eghbali's guy but Eghbali let co-sporting directors to hire for the head coach position