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****OFFICIAL GUCCI MANE & BRICKSQUAD 1017****
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Banned
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i havent bought and album since traphouse in 10th grade , will support gucci and help his him get his . my dude about to get it the right way ,grind+hustle
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I'm coppin this joint and Till The Casket Drops.
I see Gucci doing BIG numbers. BURR
I see Gucci doing BIG numbers. BURR
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Lmao at these numbers y'all giving, _s talking bout 500k
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[h1]SCAM AFTA SCAM: A TRUE STORY[/h1][h4]OZONE investigates how a new breed of greedy artist managers and booking agents, led by Gucci Mane's representatives, are sucking the blood out of themusic industry.[/h4]
by Julia Beverly (this article also appears in the upcoming print edition of OZONE Mag)
"Johnnie [Cabbell] is the grand vampire," proclaims legendary Chicago-based promoter Godfather. For over twentyyears, Godfather has been promoting concerts through his company Star Power Entertainment Group. He estimates his losses from bad business deals with JohnnieCabbell and Debra Antney to be nearly $100,000. "I don't work with Johnnie anymore," he states emphatically. "He sucks the blood out ofyou."
As the CEO of Hitt Afta Hitt (otherwise known as HAH), Johnnie Cabbell is Gucci Mane's exclusive booking agent and also manages Bankhead rapper ShawtyLo. Johnnie's "partner in crime," Godfather says, is Debra Antney, who describes herself as Gucci Mane's "business partner andmanager." As CEO of Gucci's So Icey Records and the management company Mizay Entertainment, Antney also oversees the careers of OJ da Juiceman, NickiMinaj, and others. Multiple promoters from across the country allege that Cabbell and Antney have collaborated to defraud them collectively of hundreds ofthousands of dollars.
THE SO ICEY TOUR
Scheduled for at least 12 cities in July 2009, the So Icey Tour was supposed to feature OJ da Juiceman, Nicki Minaj, and the headliner, Gucci Mane. It soundedpromising. Gucci's buzz was at an all-time high. He had just returned home from prison a few months earlier to ecstatic crowds at "Welcome HomeGucci" parties throughout the South. His artist/protégé OJ had been steadily building a buzz of his own and helping to keep Gucci's name alive byflooding the streets with mixtapes and fresh material. They were both hot commodities. And in an industry nearly void of female artists, up-and-comingemcee/sex symbol Nicki Minaj was quickly building a name for herself, strengthened by her affiliations with Lil Wayne and Gucci Mane. The timing seemedperfect.
But by all accounts, the "tour," organized by a Carolina-based promoter named Shannon Marshall, was a mess and fell apart almost immediately. Noneof the artists showed up for the first two Florida dates (July 4th & 5th), leaving veteran promoter Mr. CC (who, like Godfather in Chicago, has beensuccessfully promoting concerts for over 20 years) with losses of over $140,000. He claims that nearly half of that money, around $70,000, is in the hands ofCabbell/Antney, who refuse to return the deposits or reschedule his dates.
On July 19th, 2009, midway through the scheduled tour dates, Soulja Boy tweeted, "My %$!*% Gucci back in jail. Free Gucci." (right) Rumors quicklyspread that Gucci had again violated the terms of his probation and was back in jail (or rehab). Although Gucci's management and label denied the rehabrumors and it's still unclear exactly where Gucci was in mid-July, it's clear where he wasn't: He wasn't on the So Icey Tour. Of the 12scheduled tour dates, OZONE has confirmed that at least six, but probably more of these shows (Jacksonville, FL; Pompano Beach/Ft. Lauderdale, FL; Louisville,KY; Chicago, IL; Baltimore, MD; and Detroit, MI) never happened, leaving furious promoters demanding refunds…..
That's a less than fifty percent success rate. "People get fired for those type of numbers in baseball," laughsBaltimore attorney Paul W. Gardner, of the Gardner Law Group. Gardner spoke to OZONE on behalf of his client, who also lost "a significant sum ofmoney" by booking the So Icey Tour for a stop in Baltimore on July 18th, the day before word of Gucci's alleged re-incarceration leaked on the'net.
"[About] four days before the event,[Cabbell/Antney] said that [Gucci] might not show up," says Gardner. "Later we found out it was because he was in some sort of rehab facility."Gardner declined to reveal the exact amount of the deposit, but based on other promoters' experiences, it is reasonable to assume his client's totallosses were in the range of $40,000-50,000.
When Gardner's client attempted to reschedule thedate, So Icey suddenly changed their story. "They said, 'How can we reschedule something we don't have the [deposit] for?'" he laughs.It's a theme that is repeated over and over in other promoters' stories: after months of contracts, wire transfers, and conversations, Cabbell/Antneysuddenly played dumb, either pointing the finger at each other or hiding behind a complex web of multiple contracts with middlemen.
Continue reading here
http://www.ozonemag.com/2009/11/30/scam-afta-scam/
by Julia Beverly (this article also appears in the upcoming print edition of OZONE Mag)
"Johnnie [Cabbell] is the grand vampire," proclaims legendary Chicago-based promoter Godfather. For over twentyyears, Godfather has been promoting concerts through his company Star Power Entertainment Group. He estimates his losses from bad business deals with JohnnieCabbell and Debra Antney to be nearly $100,000. "I don't work with Johnnie anymore," he states emphatically. "He sucks the blood out ofyou."
As the CEO of Hitt Afta Hitt (otherwise known as HAH), Johnnie Cabbell is Gucci Mane's exclusive booking agent and also manages Bankhead rapper ShawtyLo. Johnnie's "partner in crime," Godfather says, is Debra Antney, who describes herself as Gucci Mane's "business partner andmanager." As CEO of Gucci's So Icey Records and the management company Mizay Entertainment, Antney also oversees the careers of OJ da Juiceman, NickiMinaj, and others. Multiple promoters from across the country allege that Cabbell and Antney have collaborated to defraud them collectively of hundreds ofthousands of dollars.
Scheduled for at least 12 cities in July 2009, the So Icey Tour was supposed to feature OJ da Juiceman, Nicki Minaj, and the headliner, Gucci Mane. It soundedpromising. Gucci's buzz was at an all-time high. He had just returned home from prison a few months earlier to ecstatic crowds at "Welcome HomeGucci" parties throughout the South. His artist/protégé OJ had been steadily building a buzz of his own and helping to keep Gucci's name alive byflooding the streets with mixtapes and fresh material. They were both hot commodities. And in an industry nearly void of female artists, up-and-comingemcee/sex symbol Nicki Minaj was quickly building a name for herself, strengthened by her affiliations with Lil Wayne and Gucci Mane. The timing seemedperfect.
But by all accounts, the "tour," organized by a Carolina-based promoter named Shannon Marshall, was a mess and fell apart almost immediately. Noneof the artists showed up for the first two Florida dates (July 4th & 5th), leaving veteran promoter Mr. CC (who, like Godfather in Chicago, has beensuccessfully promoting concerts for over 20 years) with losses of over $140,000. He claims that nearly half of that money, around $70,000, is in the hands ofCabbell/Antney, who refuse to return the deposits or reschedule his dates.
On July 19th, 2009, midway through the scheduled tour dates, Soulja Boy tweeted, "My %$!*% Gucci back in jail. Free Gucci." (right) Rumors quicklyspread that Gucci had again violated the terms of his probation and was back in jail (or rehab). Although Gucci's management and label denied the rehabrumors and it's still unclear exactly where Gucci was in mid-July, it's clear where he wasn't: He wasn't on the So Icey Tour. Of the 12scheduled tour dates, OZONE has confirmed that at least six, but probably more of these shows (Jacksonville, FL; Pompano Beach/Ft. Lauderdale, FL; Louisville,KY; Chicago, IL; Baltimore, MD; and Detroit, MI) never happened, leaving furious promoters demanding refunds…..
That's a less than fifty percent success rate. "People get fired for those type of numbers in baseball," laughsBaltimore attorney Paul W. Gardner, of the Gardner Law Group. Gardner spoke to OZONE on behalf of his client, who also lost "a significant sum ofmoney" by booking the So Icey Tour for a stop in Baltimore on July 18th, the day before word of Gucci's alleged re-incarceration leaked on the'net.
"[About] four days before the event,[Cabbell/Antney] said that [Gucci] might not show up," says Gardner. "Later we found out it was because he was in some sort of rehab facility."Gardner declined to reveal the exact amount of the deposit, but based on other promoters' experiences, it is reasonable to assume his client's totallosses were in the range of $40,000-50,000.
When Gardner's client attempted to reschedule thedate, So Icey suddenly changed their story. "They said, 'How can we reschedule something we don't have the [deposit] for?'" he laughs.It's a theme that is repeated over and over in other promoters' stories: after months of contracts, wire transfers, and conversations, Cabbell/Antneysuddenly played dumb, either pointing the finger at each other or hiding behind a complex web of multiple contracts with middlemen.
Continue reading here
http://www.ozonemag.com/2009/11/30/scam-afta-scam/
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Some tidbits
MODERN DAY SLAVERY
While it's clear that Ujaama, Shannon, Cabbell, and Antney all received a piece of the So Icey Tour pie, it's unclearhow much - if any - of the initial hundreds of thousands of dollars in show deposits actually went to the artists. It appears that none of it went to OJ daJuiceman or Nicki Minaj, and it's questionable how much the headliner Gucci received, if any.
360 deals, which are the norm in today's digital music world, guarantee record labels a percentage of their artists'revenue from many different sources, including touring. A high-ranking executive at Warner Music Group wouldn't disclose the exact terms of GucciMane's deal, but did confirm that 360 deals are now standard. "All new [record] deals are inclusive to everything [including a percentage of showmonies]. It's a full-fledged deal," says the exec. If true, it would appear that large portions of the show deposits (the 50% upfront) are beingpocketed by Cabbell and Antney, and the artists themselves don't get paid at all until they actually show up for the show and receive the back-end money -which could explain why Cabbell/Antney don't appear to be too concerned if the shows actually happen.
Regardless, "I'm sure Gucci never saw any portion of the deposit," insists Attorney Gardner. "The artist[only] gets the back end when he shows up [to the show]. I've seen it [in other situations]. The label tells the artist, 'You have fees.' It'sjust business. If Gucci owes them $10,000 for bottles or flights or jewelry, they're gonna take 100% of what's owed out of the [deposit]."
The most sinister element of the scenario is the fact that it appears Antney/Cabbell continued accepting show depositsthroughout much of the Fall 2009, fully knowing that Gucci would not be able to leave the state of Georgia. They allegedly told one promoter that they weresimply "hoping" the judge would clear Gucci Mane's legal obligations.
According to Attorney Gardner, conspiracy to commit federal fraud (which can bring both civil and criminal charges)"involves two or more people coming together to fraudulently take someone's money." Accepting deposits and signing contracts for show dates thatlegally cannot happen is fraud, and money has been wired across state lines, potentially making it a federal offense.
Taking it a step further, Gardner implies that Gucci himself could be liable for criminal fraud charges, even though hedidn't personally sign the contracts. "The state [of Georgia] already has Gucci [imprisoned], and the Feds are licking their chops to get him onsomething," notes Gardner, who is also advising his clients to demand that artists personally sign booking contracts in addition to their management."If you want to hire Gucci Mane, there should be one page with Gucci Mane's signature saying, 'I know about this date, and I agree to bethere.' Tie him into it legally."
Often confused as Gucci Mane's "auntie" because of her last name, Debra Antney is actually not a blood relativeof the rapper. She is, however, the mother of up and coming So Icey rapper Waka Flocka Flame (pictured at right together). 49-year-old Deb made the unlikelytransition from a non-profit organization called Rah Rah's Village of Hope and popped up on the scene as Gucci Mane's manager after bonding with him ata charity event a few years ago.
And yet even with a background in non-profit and charity organizations, many people who've dealt with her question herintegrity. "[Deb] is the ringleader behind the desk," says Godfather. "She's got everybody by the nuts. She's robbing everybody overthere [at So Icey/Mizay], and Johnnie is her partner in crime."
Some evidence appears to corroborate this. Although most of the promoters' anger is directed at Cabbell, it appears thatbad business practices existed in the So Icey/Mizay camp long before Cabbell/HAH got involved in March 2009. A high turnover rate within both entities and poorcommunication between the two appears to have only complicated the existing problems.
MODERN DAY SLAVERY
While it's clear that Ujaama, Shannon, Cabbell, and Antney all received a piece of the So Icey Tour pie, it's unclearhow much - if any - of the initial hundreds of thousands of dollars in show deposits actually went to the artists. It appears that none of it went to OJ daJuiceman or Nicki Minaj, and it's questionable how much the headliner Gucci received, if any.
360 deals, which are the norm in today's digital music world, guarantee record labels a percentage of their artists'revenue from many different sources, including touring. A high-ranking executive at Warner Music Group wouldn't disclose the exact terms of GucciMane's deal, but did confirm that 360 deals are now standard. "All new [record] deals are inclusive to everything [including a percentage of showmonies]. It's a full-fledged deal," says the exec. If true, it would appear that large portions of the show deposits (the 50% upfront) are beingpocketed by Cabbell and Antney, and the artists themselves don't get paid at all until they actually show up for the show and receive the back-end money -which could explain why Cabbell/Antney don't appear to be too concerned if the shows actually happen.
Regardless, "I'm sure Gucci never saw any portion of the deposit," insists Attorney Gardner. "The artist[only] gets the back end when he shows up [to the show]. I've seen it [in other situations]. The label tells the artist, 'You have fees.' It'sjust business. If Gucci owes them $10,000 for bottles or flights or jewelry, they're gonna take 100% of what's owed out of the [deposit]."
The most sinister element of the scenario is the fact that it appears Antney/Cabbell continued accepting show depositsthroughout much of the Fall 2009, fully knowing that Gucci would not be able to leave the state of Georgia. They allegedly told one promoter that they weresimply "hoping" the judge would clear Gucci Mane's legal obligations.
According to Attorney Gardner, conspiracy to commit federal fraud (which can bring both civil and criminal charges)"involves two or more people coming together to fraudulently take someone's money." Accepting deposits and signing contracts for show dates thatlegally cannot happen is fraud, and money has been wired across state lines, potentially making it a federal offense.
Taking it a step further, Gardner implies that Gucci himself could be liable for criminal fraud charges, even though hedidn't personally sign the contracts. "The state [of Georgia] already has Gucci [imprisoned], and the Feds are licking their chops to get him onsomething," notes Gardner, who is also advising his clients to demand that artists personally sign booking contracts in addition to their management."If you want to hire Gucci Mane, there should be one page with Gucci Mane's signature saying, 'I know about this date, and I agree to bethere.' Tie him into it legally."
Often confused as Gucci Mane's "auntie" because of her last name, Debra Antney is actually not a blood relativeof the rapper. She is, however, the mother of up and coming So Icey rapper Waka Flocka Flame (pictured at right together). 49-year-old Deb made the unlikelytransition from a non-profit organization called Rah Rah's Village of Hope and popped up on the scene as Gucci Mane's manager after bonding with him ata charity event a few years ago.
And yet even with a background in non-profit and charity organizations, many people who've dealt with her question herintegrity. "[Deb] is the ringleader behind the desk," says Godfather. "She's got everybody by the nuts. She's robbing everybody overthere [at So Icey/Mizay], and Johnnie is her partner in crime."
Some evidence appears to corroborate this. Although most of the promoters' anger is directed at Cabbell, it appears thatbad business practices existed in the So Icey/Mizay camp long before Cabbell/HAH got involved in March 2009. A high turnover rate within both entities and poorcommunication between the two appears to have only complicated the existing problems.
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Gucci will sell 200k watch, maybe 3.
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joint is crazy
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damn thats a good read
Didn't know that that was Flocka's mom
Sounds like she finna go to the clink
Didn't know that that was Flocka's mom
Sounds like she finna go to the clink
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Damn, Gucci getting extorted by his own management?
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Gucci stay $***+@$ up
Whole team getting punked by Flocka's mom
Whole team getting punked by Flocka's mom
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Originally Posted by CParkFresh
Gucci stay $***+@$ up
Whole team getting punked by Flocka's mom
flockas mom
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Damn this still aint leak
dacomeup
Supporter
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Originally Posted by Xplicit213
Damn this still aint leak
That's what I came in here to post. They got this *+@* on lock.
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lemonade trailer
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.........
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That Accent song feat 9th ward goes hard.
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mannie fresh on gingerbread man.......
WELL DAMN!!!!!
WELL DAMN!!!!!
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This is what I came here to post too. Either Gucci got some damn good luck or everybody scared to leak itOriginally Posted by DaComeUP
Originally Posted by Xplicit213
Damn this still aint leak
That's what I came in here to post. They got this *+@* on lock.
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| 6. | "Lemonade" | [sup]Bangladesh, Broken Equipment Productions[/sup] | 4:06 |
WAIT... Produced by BEP??? Where they those +%@%@% that made those dipset movie movies on youtube??????
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I've been following this fiasco between So Icey/Mizay/HAH & Ozone Mag/promoters and this is some crazy stuff. Julia Beverly the EIC of Ozone and thewriter of the article "Scam afta Scam" says she lost $5K to So Icey/Mizay/HAH so basically her stance in this situation is partially biased becauseshe allegedly lost money to them. IMO it was bad journalism on her part to not even interview Johnnie Cabbell and Debra Antney for the story to at least gettheir side of the story. I'm not picking sides in this, but it's interesting to follow nevertheless.
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Kush Is My Cologne
Gucci x Bun B x Devin The Dude. I haven't heard a bad track yet off the album
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YO! Did ya'll hear Gucci and Jeezy ended their beef? DJ Drama set that up.
