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If he wears one of these during his entrances.
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Official MMA Thread-UFC on FOX 3, 5/5/12 - Anyone asking for stream links = banned.
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Potentially excellent move from a business standpoint, but terrible from a competiton standpoint. Maybe thats Dana's way of Fing with Couture for holdingout with that contract dispute? Put him in with the shaved gorilla (Brock) and have him get knocked around for a bit, then feed him to Machida to Karate his*@* back into retirement?
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Devil's advocate... what if this happens... but Randy wins?
Like we always see it happen in the UFC (by it, I mean not necessarily the "best" fighter fighting for the title, but a good/great fighter with greatmarketability)... what happens when 46 year old Randy Couture outsmarts and outfights the real life Ryu?
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Originally Posted by doyung9
Devil's advocate... what if this happens... but Randy wins?
Like we always see it happen in the UFC (by it, I mean not necessarily the "best" fighter fighting for the title, but a good/great fighter with great marketability)... what happens when 46 year old Randy Couture outsmarts and outfights the real life Ryu?
Never.
Ryu can throw fireballs.
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Originally Posted by Clutchshooter
Originally Posted by doyung9
Devil's advocate... what if this happens... but Randy wins?
Like we always see it happen in the UFC (by it, I mean not necessarily the "best" fighter fighting for the title, but a good/great fighter with great marketability)... what happens when 46 year old Randy Couture outsmarts and outfights the real life Ryu?
Never.
Ryu can throw fireballs.
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I seen Jason David Frank back in 2005 in some small show in Indiana. He fought some random guy who took the fight short notice. Jason barely won and I meanbarely got the decision. He gassed quick trying to throw all quick like he was on the show. It wasn't MMA it was a kickboxing match. Plus him workingwith Melvin is good for standup and getting the feel for MMA, but not ground game or wrestling.
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Honestly, the UFC would probably love for that chain of events to play out. In my opinion it would be terrible for the legitimacy of thedivision, but f the impossible happens...Originally Posted by doyung9
Devil's advocate... what if this happens... but Randy wins?
Like we always see it happen in the UFC (by it, I mean not necessarily the "best" fighter fighting for the title, but a good/great fighter with great marketability)... what happens when 46 year old Randy Couture outsmarts and outfights the real life Ryu?
- Randy loses to Nog
- Randy drops to 205
- Randy gets an immediate title shot at Machida
- Randy beats Machida to win the strap
The next decision is REAL EASY for Dana White.
- Randy Couture vs. Anderson Silva
- Anderson KO's Randy in the 1st round
- Anderson holds 2 belts at the same time a la Pride Dan Henderson
That would be a monster PPV fight if Couture and Silva fought at 205 for the belt. The only problem is, it would throw the 185 division into no mans landunless they immediately strip Silva of that belt. If Anderson were to get the 205 belt without having to fight Machida it opens the door for so manyintriguing matchups (Rampage, Rashad, Shogun, etc..).
One option I didnt think about though was this. If Randy loses to Nog and makes the drop. Maybe make his first fight at 205 against Lil Nog? Storyline wouldbe "if you lose back to back fights to twin brothers in 2 different weight classes, its time to retire"
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Nevereverevereverevereverever. NEVER.............................never.
ill go as far as to say randy cant beat machida.
ill bet 50 dollars to every regular in this thread.
and if it happens ill EVEN ......stop using this SN so i dont pay any money out.
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but for real silva's probably going to end up getting a lot of big fights at 205 even without the strap.
they'll essentially give randy any matchup he wants on their roster untill his pacemaker gives out.
ill go as far as to say randy cant beat machida.
ill bet 50 dollars to every regular in this thread.
and if it happens ill EVEN ......stop using this SN so i dont pay any money out.
but for real silva's probably going to end up getting a lot of big fights at 205 even without the strap.
they'll essentially give randy any matchup he wants on their roster untill his pacemaker gives out.
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BAHAHAHAHAHAHAOriginally Posted by Clutchshooter
ill bet 50 dollars to every regular in this thread.
and if it happens ill EVEN ......stop using this SN so i dont pay any money out..
Oh Legend... we miss you so!
Any last minute friendly wagers? Me and my boys usually bet for something stupid like pushups hahahaha. It actually gets funny when you are droppin down doina set of pushups in the middle of a crowded bar while your boys are sittin their counting and clowning you.
Only other friendly wager I can thing of is sigs but I dont know if I wanna do a sig bet so I can forever immortalize Legend's famous last words.
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^AVY BET!!!!
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Couture is going to win...but i think it will be a boring fight, and in general a boring fight card
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Randy is GOING to win. He is in front of his home crowd and this is going to be an exciting fight. This is going to be a great card to watch.
I am going to see Joe Rogans stand up tonight, dude is funny as $%#*. Then off to downtown early tomorrow to hit the bars then got to the Garden for UFC 102! Iam so pumped the UFC will finally be here. Gonna be one hell of a night.
I am going to see Joe Rogans stand up tonight, dude is funny as $%#*. Then off to downtown early tomorrow to hit the bars then got to the Garden for UFC 102! Iam so pumped the UFC will finally be here. Gonna be one hell of a night.
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@#% is this Wanderlei?
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Originally Posted by AirPhilippines
!%@ is this Wanderlei?
apparently he had surgery?
first thing i thought was surgery similar to marcus davis.
what's the actual reason?
EDIT: apparently he did have scar tissue removal surgery similar to davis.
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such a lack of hype for this card.
apparently there could be nearly 10 000 empty seats at the event tonight.
apparently there could be nearly 10 000 empty seats at the event tonight.
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Some dude won a brunch with Randy on the radio yesterday... and he put it on craigslist last night.
Sooooo many tickets on CL in Oregon right now.
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I read that Dana blamed the economy on the arena being half empty. C'mon, we all know the reason half the tickets are still available is because is thiscard sucks.
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King Mo-
-Next Strikeforce LH champion? Next Strikeforce LH Champion!
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^I felt so bad for Kerr last night. Terrible way for him to go out. His best days are wayyy far behind him, he needs to stick to training at TNT MMA and notcompeting.
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fedor/mousasi was actually entertaining as heck.
all this silva/mir talk is getting intriguing.
silva still walks away from that one hand raised.
all this silva/mir talk is getting intriguing.
silva still walks away from that one hand raised.
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Last minute picks!
So my card is finally locked in for the event. Good luck to all other amateur mma handicappers like me.
In addition to the plays on Couture and Marquardt (earlier posts about the wagers and breakdownds), I decided to go with 3 other favorites.
$150 on Leben @ -125 to win $120 over Rosholt - Quite honestly, the reason I wagered this one was the value play. I was seeing lines on Lebenin the -140 to -160 range which was a bit too expensive for my taste. I was able to find action at -125 which I think is pretty solid value for an ironchinned guy like Leben. I think there is little question about Rosholt's gameplan. I would be extremely surprised if he decides to stand and trade withLeben, and if he does it could be a quick night for him. Rosholt should go for the takedown, top control, ground and pound. I havent seen or heard much ofRosholts sub defense, and although Leben is not a BJJ expert by any means, I think he has the edge over Rosholt and I can see him pulling off a RNC or othertype of sub as the match wears on. Hopefully Rosholt immediately goes for the takedown without setting it up, leaves his neck exposed, and Leben locks on aguillotine for an easy sub victory... actually... scratch that. Best case scenario (for me) is if Rosholt thinks his standup and keep up with Leben and hestands in front of him and tries to turn this into a kickboxing matchup. I would recommend a play if you can find it around -120 to -130 range. Anythingabove that the value is decent but not great.
$92.50 on Vera @ -185 to win $50 over Soszynski - I think Krystof is a live dog and has a chance to pull off the upset. My betting partnerand I went back and forth on this for awhile and we finally compromised to reduce our play and only bet to win 0.5 units. Hopefully Vera doesnt try to doanything stupid and keeps it on the feet with the striking and clinch game. The last thing I want is for Vera to take it to the ground and/or get taken down. I dont know if Krystof has the submission game to take Vera out but hey... anything can happen. If not a sub, he might be able to GnP his way to victory inthe hopes of an early stoppage (like the Vera v. Werdum fight).
$72.50 on Jardine @ -145 to win $50 over Silva - Another debate with my betting partner as I like Silva's chances here. If Jardine canexecute his gameplan and keep it standing and off his back I can see him pulling this out. -145 isnt great value as Silva has more than a punchers chance tobeat Jardine and we all know that chin is a bit suspect. If Silva closes the distance Jardine could be in a spot of trouble in the clinch. If he gets takendown, I think its BIG trouble for Jardine as Silva has a pretty decent top game and submissions. If you guys are playing with a limited bankroll... steerclear of this one. There are better spots for money to be made (Marquardt for example).
So my card is finally locked in for the event. Good luck to all other amateur mma handicappers like me.
In addition to the plays on Couture and Marquardt (earlier posts about the wagers and breakdownds), I decided to go with 3 other favorites.
$150 on Leben @ -125 to win $120 over Rosholt - Quite honestly, the reason I wagered this one was the value play. I was seeing lines on Lebenin the -140 to -160 range which was a bit too expensive for my taste. I was able to find action at -125 which I think is pretty solid value for an ironchinned guy like Leben. I think there is little question about Rosholt's gameplan. I would be extremely surprised if he decides to stand and trade withLeben, and if he does it could be a quick night for him. Rosholt should go for the takedown, top control, ground and pound. I havent seen or heard much ofRosholts sub defense, and although Leben is not a BJJ expert by any means, I think he has the edge over Rosholt and I can see him pulling off a RNC or othertype of sub as the match wears on. Hopefully Rosholt immediately goes for the takedown without setting it up, leaves his neck exposed, and Leben locks on aguillotine for an easy sub victory... actually... scratch that. Best case scenario (for me) is if Rosholt thinks his standup and keep up with Leben and hestands in front of him and tries to turn this into a kickboxing matchup. I would recommend a play if you can find it around -120 to -130 range. Anythingabove that the value is decent but not great.
$92.50 on Vera @ -185 to win $50 over Soszynski - I think Krystof is a live dog and has a chance to pull off the upset. My betting partnerand I went back and forth on this for awhile and we finally compromised to reduce our play and only bet to win 0.5 units. Hopefully Vera doesnt try to doanything stupid and keeps it on the feet with the striking and clinch game. The last thing I want is for Vera to take it to the ground and/or get taken down. I dont know if Krystof has the submission game to take Vera out but hey... anything can happen. If not a sub, he might be able to GnP his way to victory inthe hopes of an early stoppage (like the Vera v. Werdum fight).
$72.50 on Jardine @ -145 to win $50 over Silva - Another debate with my betting partner as I like Silva's chances here. If Jardine canexecute his gameplan and keep it standing and off his back I can see him pulling this out. -145 isnt great value as Silva has more than a punchers chance tobeat Jardine and we all know that chin is a bit suspect. If Silva closes the distance Jardine could be in a spot of trouble in the clinch. If he gets takendown, I think its BIG trouble for Jardine as Silva has a pretty decent top game and submissions. If you guys are playing with a limited bankroll... steerclear of this one. There are better spots for money to be made (Marquardt for example).
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What time does the main card start?
I wanna see the Brandon Vera fight
I wanna see the Brandon Vera fight
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damn just saw the king mo kerr fight
i feel bad when is see kerr fight now from the smashing machine to this
hope he goes out with a win, retires and just trains people
i feel bad when is see kerr fight now from the smashing machine to this
hope he goes out with a win, retires and just trains people
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Pm me with the streams plz!
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crazy pre lim fight already....
main card starts at 10 ET
main card starts at 10 ET
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anyone got streams
