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mjshoefanatic
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If lebron had 0 MVPs there would be no argument. People are just tired of him dominating the game of basketball.
At least people came to their senses and stopped the Carmelo MVP campaign
At least people came to their senses and stopped the Carmelo MVP campaign
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I can't wait to see Dwight vs Marc tonight. Dwight usually doesn't give Marc trouble. Bynum was the one that always gave Marc all the trouble because he was actually bigger.
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No, that has nothing to do with Durant. It strengthens LeBron's argument, that's it. And supposedly?
My point with the shooting is this mythical 50/40/90 being thrown out as a trump card. I would make a more well rounded argument for KD (which you absolutely can) than just shooting numbers which he was close to attaining last year.
at caling 50/40/90 "mythical." It has been done 6 times, and never by the leading scorer.
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Sad but true
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If lebron had 0 MVPs there would be no argument. People are just tired of him dominating the game of basketball.
At least people came to their senses and stopped the Carmelo MVP campaign
At the time Melo was a deserving MVP. He is still a top 5 candidate even tho the Knicks fell to earth.
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Lakers are far from stacked, all of their starters are past their prime and Dwight (back surgery or not) is not asserting himself whatsoever.
If Miami only had Wade/Bosh they'd still be a good team, and would have the money to have a more reliable PG than Chalmers....those two are not over the hill.
Miami would still be contending for a playoff spot.
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If lebron had 0 MVPs there would be no argument. People are just tired of him dominating the game of basketball.
At least people came to their senses and stopped the Carmelo MVP campaign
Nah, that has nothing to do with it. KD is #1 clearly. James is right behind him at 2
its KD's MVP to lose IMO
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If lebron had 0 MVPs there would be no argument. People are just tired of him dominating the game of basketball.
At least people came to their senses and stopped the Carmelo MVP campaign
ALL of THIS
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There was never a time when Melo was more deserving than LeBron or KD.At the time Melo was a deserving MVP. He is still a top 5 candidate even tho the Knicks fell to earth.If lebron had 0 MVPs there would be no argument. People are just tired of him dominating the game of basketball.
At least people came to their senses and stopped the Carmelo MVP campaign
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...And there never will be
- Oct 10, 2008
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They are diffrent kinds of players LeBron is the best player in the league and Durant is the best scorer see different
MVP is supposed to be for everything you bring to the table KD doesnt bring as much to the table as Bron that is a fact
dudes wanna give durant mvp for being a better free throw shooter and his team having a slightly better record? you cant be serious
LeBron is the number 1 offensive option on his team and still leads em in rebs & ast
KD is a fantastic player just not as good as LeBron I thought the finals clearly showed that
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I was mostly meaning Wade and Bosh but I would bet my life on Chalmers being ready to go when the lights are on. Don't expect Miller to play and Battier will be whatever. But prior to him getting hot now, Chalmers two best games were opening night and Christmas Day. It's just can't be a coincidence with him anymore.
I know. I just would not use the 'never been done before' statistic at the front-line with an MVP debate that includes LeBron James (and considering he's 55/40 and two months late on fixing his FT follow through to chase it himself). At least not until the season is over and the numbers hold.
ie LeBron is the only player in history to be 25/8/7 on 55/40 ever. But it's just another year for him.
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what does last years finals have to do with this years mvp voting?
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it doesnt have anything to do with the voting technically but it showed you who the better more complete player was and is
LeBron has better numbers and wins when they go head to head but somehow Durants free throw shooting and his TEAM having 3 more wins means he should win mvp?
someone please explain to me how Durant is more valuble than Lebron other than at the free throw line
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One thing that has really impressed me about Durant is his handles. He's really getting that crossover down. IMO he is the best ball handler 6'10 and up. And he will only get better.
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I could have sworn the criteria for MVP voting has been "best player on best team" for a while now.
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the best ball handler 6'10 and up? what an accomplishment
how hard was it to get to the top of that mighty mountain
how hard was it to get to the top of that mighty mountain
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it shows who was the more complete player last season. kd improved his fg%, 3pt fg%, ft%, and assists this season. how does this not help the team?
head to head stats based on the 2 games they play have minimal impact on the whole season
- Oct 10, 2008
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LeBron has improved his fg% 3pt% and is averaging more rebs and ast than he did last year and less turnovers
so in fact he is even better than he was last year when he was also the better player
TRY AGAIN SPORT
dudes should just come out and say they dont like LeBron and dont wanna see him win it again
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The Lakers 1. have struggled with injuries, and 2. Have a flat out terrible defensive scheme. Saying the Heat would be bottom 10 without Lebron is an absolutely ridiculous statement and no one who knows basketball would agree with you. Find one person in this thread who agrees with you.
Last year's finals have no relevance. Is Lebron a better overall player than Durant? Yes. Is Durant having a better season this year than Lebron? Yes.
Why is that so hard to admit? It's sad that people are stanning so hard for Lebron that they can't give credit to anyone else. Durant is having an incredible season, his team is playing better than anyone else, and at this point he deserves MVP.
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Never disputed whether KD or Bron should win (doesn't matter to me really), but you can't compare the quality of both players when both are nothing alike. Lebron is an Oscar Roberson kind of player and KD is a scoring assassin, he isn't asked to get the assists that is what Westbrook is there for...err...supposed to be there for.
and last years Finals was KD's first and he wasn't exactly ghost the way Lebron did his first two times going, but that's a whole different issue I don't really care for.
It was more of an issue with Harden and their front court not controlling the paint as they should have.but when it comes to MVP voting, overall team record does make a big difference as well, just how it is (unlike baseball). Right now I'd side with KD slightly, but its not even the all star break so a lot of things can change.
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This is like the 7th time I've heard this from the Lakers
Jesus. He needs to throw in some more sports cliches.
"We're just going to treat the rest of the season like a 41 game series."
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