Dude the cheesy pleather tongue on the salmon toes puts these well below the quality of the hanons. The hanon 1500 suede, mesh, nubuck, whatever is on it is top notch. I cant believe people can even say they arent impresses after all the garbage jb nike put out. But if its not quality you want, cw is to each his own. I have some norse 670 and do think the fieg 1300 is kind of similar. But with the crappy tongue and hype, i sold my salmon toes and have three pairs of hanons. And personally im way fpr excited for the hunter green 998 i just ordered than for the kith 1300. I just love me some 998.