OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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Drew Bledsoe is more responsible for creating the legend of Brady than anyone. Adam solidified it,imo
 
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When has Vinatieri been discredited though? He deserves to be the 2nd kicker in the HoF imo. People forget that he's still doing it nowadays at 40...

What a career,played with Brady,Peyton and Luck.

i just feel like people disregard what he did at times.

had jim kelly's kick made the kick he would have the ring and he wouldn't be hearing about this

'4 time ********** loser !!!!!!!'
 
Jim Kelly is a HoFer and rightfully so,not his fault that his Bills ran into the buzzsaw that was the NFC in the 80's-mid 90's :lol. Most Pats fans I know have a special place in their heart for Adam being the most cold blooded kicker ever. I'll admit that a few do discredit his contributions a little to further TB's GOAT narrative(I admittedly subscribe to this narrative :lol) but that's not close to the majority. Dude is a legend.
 
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Jim Kelly is a HoFer and rightfully so,not his fault that his Bills ran into the buzzsaw that was the NFC in the 80's-mid 90's :lol. Most Pats fans I know have a special place in their heart for Adam being the most cold blooded kicker ever. I'll admit that a few do discredit his contributions a little to further TB's GOAT narrative(I admittedly subscribe to this narrative :lol) but that's not close to the majority. Dude is a legend.

yeah i know bro. but you got pats fans like deadace posting things like '4 time ******* loser!!!!!!!' just because kelly spoke his mind. and thats why i said that about pats fans getting all caught up in their feels when someone makes a negative comment
 
:lol my jim kelly comment was a jab for his comments on TB12. let's not act like i come in here saying that **** habitually :lol

i have no issue with Kelly and know he was a great QB. "the rings" thing is usually said in jest to **** Chester trolls about with Manning and Marino. i'm not a rings or bust type of guy. i've got Marino in my top 3 despite his empty knuckles.

sorry i hit a nerve going at Jimmy boy like that :lol
 
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I hear you but I also get where heel DSA is coming from though given all the slander aimed at the squad these last few months :lol. Gotta blow off some steam sometime *shrugs*
 
I think some of yall are overhyping Vinatieri kicks in the Super Bowl, they were in domes, under 50 yards when the game was tied. Even if he misses, the Patriots can still win.

The crucial kick was his Tuck game kick
 
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:lol my jim kelly comment was a jab for his comments on TB12. let's not act like i come in here saying that **** habitually :lol

i have no issue with Kelly and know he was a great QB. "the rings" thing is usually said in jest to **** Chester trolls about with Manning and Marino. i'm not a rings or bust type of guy. i've got Marino in my top 3 despite his empty knuckles.

sorry i hit a nerve going at Jimmy boy like that :lol

fare enough. it just comes off salty sometimes. you have to roll with the punches sometimes. seems like some pats fans really do get butt hurt over it.

I hear you but I also get where heel DSA is coming from though given all the slander aimed at the squad these last few months :lol. Gotta blow off some steam sometime *shrugs*

yeah i get it. but i like said the post above. i can't really tell if its sarcasm or not they you type in all caps
 
You're saying if he misses those kicks they don't lose any of those SBs????
 
With Kelly though he did drive that Bills team into field goal position (against an awesome 90s Giants defense), very similar to Brady. Simply had a worse kicker :(
 
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I think some of yall are overhyping Vinatieri kicks in the Super Bowl, they were in domes, under 50 yards when the game was tied. Even if he misses, the Patriots can still win.

The crucial kick was his Tuck game kick

He's made big kicks throughout his career though. Those are the biggest obviously but he's probably the best cold weather kicker ever imo and he's one of the most accuarte ones in NFL history. Dude is 42 and still kicks 50+ yarders with ease,so much so that the league even drug tested him last season right after a 53 yarder he got :rollin :hat.
 
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He's made big kicks throughout his career though. Those are the biggest obviously but he's probably the best cold weather kicker ever imo and he's one of the most accuarte ones in NFL history. Dude is 42 and still kicks 50+ yarders with ease,so much so that the league drug tested him last season after a 53 yarderd
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Is the mark where he hit the field goal in the snow against the Raiders still in the parking lot next to Gillette? 
 
Brady also lost 2 Super Blwls because of last minute fluke plays so that argument goes both ways if you want to hold it :lol

Brady scored 14 points with the best offense ever :x

I still maintain that's a huge reason why they lost XLII, not because of Tyree. Shouldn't have gotten to that

And the Giants D was good but not 76 Steeler good
 
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It's possible they lose if he misses them, but the game would've just went to overtime.

An NFL kicker is supposed to make 40 yard field goals in a dome though
 
He's made big kicks throughout his career though. Those are the biggest obviously but he's probably the best cold weather kicker ever imo and he's one of the most accuarte ones in NFL history. Dude is 42 and still kicks 50+ yarders with ease,so much so that the league drug tested him last season after a 53 yarderd :rollin :hat .


Is the mark where he hit the field goal in the snow against the Raiders still in the parking lot next to Gillette? 

I thought they took the plaque down after Patriot Place was built...
 
I liked Brady up until deflate gate. Guy is acting like an entitled little prick. Blaming everyone else and lying his *** off. **** him.
 
Did the trainer's phones not have texts and phone calls to Brady? Many QBs have already said, they know exactly what the pressure is like and how the balls are prepped. I've even heard backups say they have their own input. It's insulting that he thinks people will even believe his stupidity. It's also insulting that some of you think this guy that's been in the league doesn't have his footballs prepped at all.
 
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