OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

[Maximus Meridius]

The Cowboys are going to be so *******raw when Romo and Dez come back.

They got some dogs on their team again, Jerry knows exactly what hes doing.

 

[essential1]

And Greg Hardy keeps doing things to decrease his Free Agency money.. Cowboys will end up keeping him long term for under market value..

Good deal all around

 

[jumpman91023]

And Greg Hardy keeps doing things to decrease his Free Agency money.. Cowboys will end up keeping him long term for under market value..

Good deal all around

I know I wouldn't mind adding greg for the cheap but Richardson not having that. But if greg was back on this Defense :x

 

[whoyouthink]

@ESPNStatsInfo: Amari Cooper: 1st rookie w/ 3 100-yard receiving games in team's 1st 6 games since Mike Ditka (1961) (via ELIAS) https://t.co/QKkuBPFLXr

 

[Nike Still Sux]

Gurley and Amari neck and neck for OROY

 

[a-friend]

Yea right if I was Jerrah Hardy would have been released today.

Slapping a board out of a coaches hand and shoving him? Nah not here.

Dude is a piece of garbage.

So is Jerry Jones. Type of dude that would sacrifice 100 soldiers to take a village of 10

 

[gmsvandalsavage]

 

 

 

 
they said it was leadership from Hardy 

funniest **** I've heard all day

@ throwing a tantrum and bullying the special teams coach that's half your size being classified as leadership

Cowboys gon Cowboy

need to see the vid, man

I got you 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[the collector]

So is Kirk Cousins the best QB in the NFC East this season or what?

2 game winning TDs with less then 30 seconds left. Largest comeback in Skins history. Most completions in Skins history.

Based off this season alone and not Eli's SB years is Kirk playing the best QB? Everyone wants to bring up what I say when he plays bad. Don't avoid it now.

 

[dmxfury]

Congrats on being better than the Dallas third string QB and Sam Bradford.

Your medal is a yogurt lid

 

[the collector]

Congrats on being better than the Dallas third string QB and Sam Bradford.

Your medal is a yogurt lid

Don't need a medal. All I ever said was NFC East. It was the rest of the thread that thought being better then those guys was crazy talk. Kirk is proving me right. Like Luck is also proving me right. I haven't heard one word about his brand or commercials. Why, bias of course.

It just feels good to be vindicated.

 

[Betonblck]

In what way is Kirk Cousins playing better than Eli Manning?

Kirk is playing better than Bradford and Dallas backup QBs, that's about all

My Cowboys will probably still finish with a better season record than Washington, that'll tell you all you need to know about Kirk Cousins.

 

[the collector]

In what way is Kirk Cousins playing better than Eli Manning?

Kirk is playing better than Bradford and Dallas backup QBs, that's about all.

I'll accept if people think Eli is playing better. The point is it's not to a degree that Kirk can't bypass him with another solid game or two.

I don't get why my week 2 Kirk statement is funny when he's right there through 7 weeks. Do you?

 

[Betonblck]

No, Kirk Cousins is not passing Eli Manning in a game or two. He is Jason Campbell.

He is what he is, and that's the 3rd best QB in the East. He would be the worst if Chip hadn't traded Nick Foles.

 

[the collector]

No, Kirk Cousins is not passing Eli Manning in a game or two. He is Jason Campbell.

He is what he is, and that's the 3rd best QB in the East. He would be the worst if Chip hadn't traded Nick Foles.

Eli's numbers are so good it's impossible for Kirk to have two good games and Eli no bad games? Kirk can't surpass Eli in 2015 performance? That's a laughable thing to say.

Everyone talks about what Cam don't have. Eli has OBJ. Who's Kirk throwing to? Eli should be head and shoulders better then Kirk. He hasn't been though.

 

[gmsvandalsavage]

 

Congrats on being better than the Dallas third string QB and Sam Bradford.

Your medal is a yogurt lid

Don't need a medal. All I ever said was NFC East. It was the rest of the thread that thought being better then those guys was crazy talk. Kirk is proving me right. Like Luck is also proving me right. I haven't heard one word about his brand or commercials. Why, bias of course.

It just feels good to be vindicated.

You shouldn't feel vindicated. You didn't stick to your guns at all.

You went from saying kirk is the best qb in the NFC East, to "stop taking what I said out of context guys", to saying Kirk sucks and there is no way he should be starting over RG3 and he's only not starting because of politics, back to Kirk is the best.

Up next is the Patriots after the bye. It'll be back too. "stop taking what I said out of context guys, when i said Kirk was the best it was only after we played Dolphins and Rams (early season) and the Buccaneers. Only those weeks guys. You can't say I'm wrong about that"

 

[the collector]

You shouldn't feel vindicated. You didn't stick to your guns at all.

You went from saying kirk is the best qb in the NFC East, to "stop taking what I said out of context guys", to saying Kirk sucks and there is no way he should be starting over RG3 and he's only not starting because of politics, back to Kirk is the best.

Up next is the Patriots after the bye. It'll be back too. "stop taking what I said out of context guys, when i said Kirk was the best it was only after we played Dolphins and Rams (early season) and the Buccaneers. Only those weeks guys. You can't say I'm wrong about that"

Don't confuse the people with your jumbled mess. Your combining two totally different things. I was waiting for someone to do this. If my week 2 statement can be used against me and no one says a word. Then I have the right to defend it.

Kirk being the best QB in the NFC East has NOTHING TO DO WITH RG3. RG3 was unfairly treated in his time in DC by the media and Jay. Fact! Wanting to see RG3 start and shut up Jay and the criticism has nothing to do with Kirks 2015 on field performance.

Nice try. I've said before if Kirk plays well and we win stick with him. If he loses I don't want my coach to blame the damn wind. RG3 never got that pass. Do it in NE Kirk. I don't have to be sold on Kirk to proclaim he's the East best QB.

 

[gmsvandalsavage]

Ok, and how about the other part of not boasting about Kirk being the best after playing the Falcons and Jets.  Instead reminding everyone to "keep it in context" You conveniently leave out his performances those games. 

How are you validated when you backed off your stance? Now after the playing the Bucs he's the best again and "you're proven right"?

 

 

[the collector]

Ok, and how about the other part of not boasting about Kirk being the best after playing the Falcons and Jets.  Instead reminding everyone to "keep it in context" You conveniently leave out his performances those games. 

How are you validated when you backed off your stance? Now after the playing the Bucs he's the best again and "you're proven right"?

 

He played bad. There was nothing to defend. At that point my week two statement looked foolish. Looking at the East a week later it looks more right then wrong.

The NFL is a week to week league. Unlike other sports we have to judge faster and don't have as much time to let things play out. Unless your one those people who have no opinion and play it safe. That's boring IMO. We'd have a dead dry NFL thread if that was the case.

 

[100027]

So is Kirk Cousins the best QB in the NFC East this season or what?

2 game winning TDs with less then 30 seconds left. Largest comeback in Skins history. Most completions in Skins history.

Based off this season alone and not Eli's SB years is Kirk playing the best QB? Everyone wants to bring up what I say when he plays bad. Don't avoid it now.

No.  You're wrong.

 

[silverbackhoney]

Eli - 64.9% for 1,776 yd, 11 TD, 4 Int and 92.4 QBR

Kirk - 68.7% for 1,737 yd, 9 TD, 8 Int and 85.1 QBR

Sam - 62% for 1,766 yd, 9 TD, 10 Int and 76.4 QBR

Dallas QBs are excluded because they've played half the games

 

[gmsvandalsavage]

If your going to judge week to week and then say the statement only applies when he plays well which is coincidentally when he played weak teams. Early season Dolphins and Rams defense, and the Buccaneers, then you're a clown. and that makes for a dry NFL thread too.

No one would be wrong about anything because you could just cherry pick which games apply. 

Looking ahead lets call the Pats game a "keep it context" week and the next game vs the Saints "he's the best" week unless kirk plays poorly. Then we won't. 

Sound good?

 

[the collector]

Eli - 64.9% for 1,776 yd, 11 TD, 4 Int and 92.4 QBR
Kirk - 68.7% for 1,737 yd, 9 TD, 8 Int and 85.1 QBR
Sam - 62% for 1,766 yd, 9 TD, 10 Int and 76.4 QBR
Dallas QBs are excluded because they've played half the games

I'll accept those who say Eli. Kirk is right there though. One good game by Kirk and bad game from Eli is all it'll take.

 

[silverbackhoney]

I'll accept those who say Eli. Kirk is right there though. One good game by Kirk and bad game from Eli is all it'll take.

Eli would have to throw for 5 ints and 0 tds and Kirk would have to go for 3 td and no ints next game for me to say Kirk is better this year.

As of then, nah

 

[the collector]

If your going to judge week to week and then say the statement only applies when he plays well which is coincidentally when he played weak teams. Early season Dolphins and Rams defense, and the Buccaneers, then you're a clown. and that makes for a dry NFL thread too.

No one would be wrong about anything because you could just cherry pick which games apply. 

Looking ahead lets call the Pats game a "keep it context" week and the next game vs the Saints "he's the best" week unless kirk plays poorly. Then we won't. 

Sound good?

Rams have the best D anyone in the East has played. Kirk beat them. Funny how great they were after week 1 but Kirk beat them so they aren't that good.

You just used your own argument against yourself. It's not my fault people don't get at me and Kirk on bad weeks. I'm always here. Bring the slander. I can take it.

 

[gmsvandalsavage]

Nah, they nearly let Seattle come back. And they looked off against the Skins. Let Jones run all over them.

I say they've gotten better.