OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

[kingkoopa]

Dalton had a concerning game for Who Dey fans IMO. Didn't look great at all

Not to me.

The most important thing I've seen out of Dalton is his composure.

He throws a terrible interception late in the game down and kept his head on and didn't implode.

We would of lost to Baltimore, Seattle and Pitt if this was the old Andy I'm tellin yall he gets better at something every year.

 

[keel252]

I would like to say thank you to all of the NTers at the start of every year that continue to pick the Panthers to finish 3rd or 4th in the division. You guys are the real mvp.

Keep believing in those Saints and Falcon.

 

[macbk]

QB wasn't your guys' biggest problem today, though. I didn't expect us to be able to run on you at all, but it happened and I was really surprised.

True. Murray is a real nice runner man. He's pretty big too with speed so he takes long strides and he's off.

Gotta respect Carr going after Revis and Cromartie with no worries. Revis got beat a few times but for the most part held Cooper down. Cro on the other hand he's a liability due to his aging hips. Jets can cut him at the end of the season without a cap hit the way is contract is set up; hoping that's what happens because he can't start for us. He's better suited as depth with Marcus Williams or Walls starting.

And don't get me started on the tackling, or lack of for that matter.

 

[the collector]

Luck been playing with hurt ribs. His injurys are holding him back. Not his Twitter of commercials? His turnover rate in his first 3 season will be explained away with a 2015 rib injury. RG3 can be called Uncle Tom but it's clear that unless your skin is white, you gotta be all time great to play QB still.

Vince Young, Josh Freeman, T Jackson. Meanwhile Weeden took snaps this season. Colt had a chance to become a starter in DC after the Browns mess. Dudes should be out the league based off performance. RG3 is next. He's not fast anymore is the excuse. Jay won't even bother to teach the guy the game. Not smart enough huh? What a joke. Surprised they won't move him to WR. Tanny goes from WR to QB in 1 college season.

NFL looking funny to me right now. The Luck defending I saw on Fox yesterday made me sick. I'm the last to use race but that's all it could be. RG3 had much worse injurys but he was expect to be a pro bowler. Luck gets hurt and can throw all the picks he wants. It's ok.

 

[Hahahaha]

All I got from your post was Bob will be out the league very soon and I love it. Great post.

 

[the collector]

All I got from your post was Bob will be out the league very soon and I love it. Great post.

Yeah another black QB out of the league based off things other then performance and you love it. Great post huh. Smh

 

[NickFolarin]

 

All I got from your post was Bob will be out the league very soon and I love it. Great post.

Yeah another black QB out of the league based off things other then performance and you love it. Great post huh. Smh

Let's not do this. RG3 isn't out the league anytime soon, and if he is it will be because of his performance and him being injury prone. 

 

[dmxfury]

Yeah another black QB out of the league based off things other then performance and you love it. Great post huh. Smh

We have this discussion a few times every year and it seems the conclusion there are examples on both sides. Multiple factors in play, hard to narrow done to race being the biggest variable (though a possible answer)

 

[polosanddunks]

If anything Luck has been crucified as well and even more after Hasselbeck came in and was balling.

RG3 cant keep his mouth shut thats what adds to the fact.

Its not a race thing as much as people think but a few of those broadcasters i def see it. If you play like trash you will be slandered.

 

[Hahahaha]

All I got from your post was Bob will be out the league very soon and I love it. Great post.

Yeah another black QB out of the league based off things other then performance and you love it. Great post huh. Smh

I said I was done talking race in this thread after the Manziel BS but I'll say this. I don't consider Bob to be black or a QB. WHEN he's out the league, it will be because he's a gimmick NCAA player that can't read defenses and a coach killer. Not to mention he's injury prone and has Brandon Roy knees.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

I've never seen an average-at-best scout team safety get talked about so much.

 

[the collector]

Let's not do this. RG3 isn't out the league anytime soon, and if he is it will be because of his performance and him being injury prone. 

Hard to perform at a high level when your offensive system changes and you get hurt 2 games in. Then when you get healthy your thrown in on a bad team and killed post game by your head coach while being moved in an out the lineup. Then lose your starting and backup spot because you get a concussion behind a young line without your PB left tackle.

This year that same coach refuses to say anything bad about the white guy. Blames the wind. Won't bench him regardless of play because "he DESERVES the rite to play a full 16 games".

What am I missing here?

 

[stillin729]

I think most people put RG3 in the white category of QB's

 

[the collector]

It's not a RG3 thing but a black QB thing. Josh Freeman had a great year in Tampa. Fell off and never was given a real chance after that. Same with Vince Young. His coach dogged him also.

Matt Flynn, Weeden, McCoy and these dudes stay in the league. It's a joke. Luck is the poster child for double standards. That's the point of my post but folks want to turn a blind eye because of my Skins affiliation. Easier to do that then address my larger point.

A black QB could be decent all 4 years in college and moved to WR. Tanny plays WR and moves to QB for only 1 year and is a 1st round draft pick.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

How the hell is a guy that went 11-5 three years in a row, made it farther in the playoffs each year, and led the league in touchdowns last season the poster child for double standards?

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Julian Edelman played QB in college, why is he a WR in the NFL?

 

[NickFolarin]

It's not a RG3 thing but a black QB thing. Josh Freeman had a great year in Tampa. Fell off and never was given a real chance after that. Same with Vince Young. His coach dogged him also.

Matt Flynn, Weeden, McCoy and these dudes stay in the league. It's a joke. Luck is the poster child for double standards. That's the point of my post but folks want to turn a blind eye because of my Skins affiliation. Easier to do that then address my larger point.

Mike Vick is a black QB and is still in the league. Mike Vick had the same turnover problems and injury woes as RG3. The only thing that separates them and on the field production and character. Character issues is what separates Freeman, Young, RG3, Ryan Mallet, and Jamarcus Russell from Flynn, Weeden, McCoy. The latter group embrace the role of a backup and don't disrupt locker rooms.

Also, if you think RG3 wasn't given a chance, Tebow wasn't either..... and he won a playoff game!

 

[jumpman91023]

Can't say the collectors lying. It sickens them that Cam's doing the things that they said he couldn't. The Vikings did give Freeman a chance tho.

 

[the collector]

How the hell is a guy that went 11-5 three years in a row, made it farther in the playoffs each year, and led the league in touchdowns last season the poster child for double standards?

Sanchez made the AFC title game and beat NE. What's your point?

You bring up his TD passes. What are his INT totals?

How does a horrible team make the title game? When Luck wins its in spite of them, loses its because of them.

11-5 record. With 6 coming against the worse teams in NFL every year. Titans, Texans and Jags.

Matt comes in and wins 2 strait with 0 turnovers. Same horrible Colts team I'm told. Only difference is 0 TOs.

 

[stillin729]

what about David Garrard and Byron Leftwich?

 

[jumpman91023]

How the hell is a guy that went 11-5 three years in a row, made it farther in the playoffs each year, and led the league in touchdowns last season the poster child for double standards?

For example, is Luck making poor decisions absolutely. But his oline and with the news of him playing with fractured ribs coming out he will be given an excuse to play bad. Whereas last season Cam started the season with fractured ribs, coming off ankle surgery and having a bottom 4 oline in all of football. But the narrative was, that Cam just wasn't good.

 

[the collector]

Julian Edelman played QB in college, why is he a WR in the NFL?

This is a BS statement. It's a well known thing black QBs have been moved to other positions historically. Your one white player being moved from QB is a drop in a bucket of black QB examples. Please.

I'll give you another. Eric Crouch. Won the Heisman at QB. Was moved to WR. Got blasted in a preseason game and retired.

 

[the collector]

AFC South is 4-15 against non divisional opponents.

The Colts are 0-4 with a minus 39 scoring margin vs opponents outside the division.

 

[NickFolarin]

Can't say the collectors lying. It sickens them that Cam's doing the things that they said he couldn't. The Vikings did give Freeman a chance tho.

What was and who said Cam couldn't do things. He was a pretty much consensus 1st pick in the draft. 

 

[IATT]

Josh freeman and Vince young are bad examples because of all the mess they were doing off the field

Charlie batch stuck around for a long time with limited talent.. Coaches are only going to be willing to put up with headaches when the talent farrrrrrrr out ways the risk.. as soon as guys like TO, Chad and anyone else in that bunch lost it a bit, their opportunities dried up quick

Vick was credited with showing a lot of maturity and leadership after he got with philly.. But you have to kinda be honest about the guys your naming

Jeff George became an outcast and he had a ton of talent






Now, obviously the league does have issues.. Just look at the number of black coaches, GMs and owners.. But some players dig their own graves