OFFICIAL NFL Discussion Thread: 2015-16 Season - Congrats to the Denver Broncos and their fans! SB 5

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Turnover differential isn't just a defensive stat though.

Getting turnovers is good but it doesn't vault a team that's playing in the 20s in points allowed to a good defense.
 
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Turnover differential isn't just a defensive stat though.

Getting turnovers is good but it doesn't vault a team that's playing in the 20s in points allowed to a good defense.

Nobody in here is saying it's the end all be all but takeaways are always a great thing especially if you're not giving it away at the same rate.

Great teams always are near the top at TO rate. Its not that complicated.
 
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Luck GAWD about to put a hurtin on everyone outchea. :smokin

And that 06 chip we had one of the worst defenses I have ever seen. Especially the run D. Getting shredded for over 300 by Jax was tough to watch. But somehow they got together and carried Peyton to the AFC title game because he threw like 5 combined picks in the w.c. and divisional games.
 
Luck GAWD about to put a hurtin on everyone outchea. :smokin

And that 06 chip we had one of the worst defenses I have ever seen. Especially the run D. Getting shredded for over 300 by Jax was tough to watch. But somehow they got together and carried Peyton to the AFC title game because he threw like 5 combined picks in the w.c. and divisional games.

Yo check my post out in the post your car thread. ;)
 
Luck GAWD about to put a hurtin on everyone outchea. :smokin

And that 06 chip we had one of the worst defenses I have ever seen. Especially the run D. Getting shredded for over 300 by Jax was tough to watch. But somehow they got together and carried Peyton to the AFC title game because he threw like 5 combined picks in the w.c. and divisional games.

You from Indy?
 
Turnover differential isn't just a defensive stat though.

Getting turnovers is good but it doesn't vault a team that's playing in the 20s in points allowed to a good defense.

Nobody in here is saying it's the end all be all but takeaways are always a great thing especially if you're not giving it away at the same rate.

Great teams always are near the top at TO rate. Its not that complicated.

Yes having a good turnover rate is great but that's not just a defense stat, its a team stat.

The defense getting turnovers helps the TO rate but having an offense that doesn't turn the ball over is just as important.

A defense getting turnovers is great but if the defense is in the bottom half of points allowed, I think its fair to say that's an average defense at best.
 
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The Pats are so fraud. New OTL report says they taped over 40 games of coaches signals and sent low level dudes with the team into teams locker rooms to steal play sheets day of game.

Roger had NFL people stomp tapes and shred paper work.
 
The Pats are so fraud. New OTL report says they taped over 40 games of coaches signals and sent low level dudes with the team into teams locker rooms to steal play sheets day of game.

Roger had NFL people stomp tapes and shred paper work.

Ya don't say...

By golly!
 
When you hear the actual details of exactly what they did its shameful. I can't wait to see Teddy Bs smug face as he try's to spin this.
 
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It is pretty sad and shameful, on the organization's part and the comissioner's part. I get it though, Roger had to do what he believed would protect the shield and you gotta do what you gotta do to win. I don't doubt that other teams are cheating as well, but it's quite funny/ironic that it's the same team that gets outed time and time again lol.
 
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