Official Umar Johnson Thread

[layziegunts]

Yall bringing up a comparisons with preachers and church when they preaching a white Jesus that dont exist vs Umar talking about building up black communities. Yall silly

ok guys answer his one question for me.

WHICH OF THE 2 IS MORE IMPORTANT TO UMAR

A) TEACHING PEOPLE PAN-AFRICAN VALUES AND HELPING BUILD UP BLACK KIDS

or

B) SCAMMING PEOPLE AND MAKING MONEY FOR HIMSELF

only answer is one if more important to him and what he is trying to do.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So you are saying Umar isnt about the Pan-African movement but instead about making money for himself?

Yes or No

Dude is first and foremost about enriching himself. Pan Africanism is just a vehicle to do so. Sure he may beleive in it, but I am sure those preachers beleive what is in the New Testament.

You can't be about uplifting the black community yet feed them so many half truths, lies, and false promises. That is not trying to educate people, that is trying to lock in a fanbase you can monetize.

 

[iamdef]

I don’t believe the movement needs a “leader”. I think the movement needs an educated following more so than it needs a singular leader.

As many have already echoed, we as black people have got to stop looking for someone to lead us.

Agreed. The problem with looking for a singular leader is people have faults, and the last thing a revolution needs is for a major leader's reputation to be burdened down with ANY kind of scandal. And we all know how important money is to everybody, why encourage a leader who, even if not true, has such a negative history with handling large surmounts of other people's money? If he's such a great leader and teacher, why doesn't he step back from the forefront since his issue is such a distraction? A true leader should be able to weigh the options similar to what's been asked above. So I'll ask my own, what's more important:

Personally leading a revolution accompanied by a strong rumor of large funds being "scammed" out of your supporters

or

Stepping back to let another leader be the face in order to further the advancement of your people?

 

[layziegunts]

I mean trust me, he is a normal man and need to eat food like the rest of us, but some of yall be tripping. He seems sincere as hell about Pan-Africanism and MAD KNOWLEDGEABLE. I look at that first and foremost than worrying what he is doing with $500k

 

[iamdef]

WHICH OF THE 2 IS MORE IMPORTANT TO UMAR

A) TEACHING PEOPLE PAN-AFRICAN VALUES AND HELPING BUILD UP BLACK KIDS

or

B) SCAMMING PEOPLE AND MAKING MONEY FOR HIMSELF

only answer is one if more important to him and what he is trying to do.

If we are going by his actions it's definitely perfectly sensible to think the ratio leans more to B) than A). It can be said, and possibly proven, that he's doing A) while doing B)

 

[iamdef]

I mean trust me, he is a normal man and need to eat food like the rest of us, but some of yall be tripping. He seems sincere as hell about Pan-Africanism and MAD KNOWLEDGEABLE. I look at that first and foremost than worrying what he is doing with $500k

As much as he "seems" to be sincere, he "seems" to have scammed people out of their money. Why would I trust him?

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

We’re not talking about him being flawed as person. He’s not lying about what he had for breakfast. His lies are spread into his message and he boasts his opinions as facts. He blamedd the decrease in teenage pregnancy rates in the black community on sterility and homosexuality. That is 100% false. There’s no truth in that whatsoever. But he used that lie to stir fear and manufacture black oppression when there are thousands of other examples of how the black community is ACTUALLY under attack. But those topics aren’t as exciting to tell on a radio show so he had to make one up himself. That’s the tactics of our “Best” leader? There’s no way I’m gonna tolerate that kind of dishonesty from someone who’s supposed to be advancing our community.

 

[iamdef]

I feel like if he was to make a statement and say, "Until the school I promised y'all is ready for the next step I'm going to step back and allow this other leader to take y'all on this journey" there would be so much respect to give him.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

bro, you are so silly.

THE BLACK CHURCH IS PLUNDERING BLACK COMMUNITES. Being owned by white banks.

You dont have the mental capacity to understand what Pan-Africanism is about. Please dont respond in this thread anymore. Thank yo

#CancelRusty

 

[deuce king]

^That's government generated wind to stifle the brothers message.

The devil got a lot of tricks.

Hilarious.

like literally Niketalk is a bunch of dudes who talk about sneakers, I really dont expect yall to be on any real Pan-African wave except a couple of you.

“Pan-African wave”.......LOL. Bless your heart.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

layziegunts gotta be Umar's PR man.

 

[layziegunts]

layziegunts gotta be Umar's PR man.

nope, only went to one of his speakings. Didnt even stay afterwards to meet him was mad tired lol.

Im just really about seeing black people doing better worldwide and I think he is a great (not perfect) spokeperson for the movement.

 

[layziegunts]

If we are going by his actions it's definitely perfectly sensible to think the ratio leans more to B) than A). It can be said, and possibly proven, that he's doing A) while doing B)

so then you are saying his main objective is scamming and making rich. Noted

 

[Maximus Meridius]

nope, only went to one of his speakings. Didnt even stay afterwards to meet him was mad tired lol.

Im just really about seeing black people doing better worldwide and I think he is a great (not perfect) spokeperson for the movement.

He does say a lot of stuff I agree with about racism and solutions. I've listened to a lot of his speeches and he cold but I had to fall back on him cuz it's just too much funny behavior.

 

[layziegunts]

I feel like if he was to make a statement and say, "Until the school I promised y'all is ready for the next step I'm going to step back and allow this other leader to take y'all on this journey" there would be so much respect to give him.

bro, that doesnt make sense at all, if he started the whole building that school thing, why should i pass it off to someone else? and if you think so who is another leader that you see is fit?

 

[layziegunts]

As much as he "seems" to be sincere, he "seems" to have scammed people out of their money. Why would I trust him?

dude, he asked for donations to help build a school. He didnt promise people triple return on their investment. "hey give me $100, Ill give you $1000 by next month". Thats a scam.

He had a vision and he asked for donation. SO FAR, it hasnt come to fruition.

man, im done with you

 

[iamdef]

so then you are saying his main objective is scamming and making rich. Noted

If that's all you got, you missed the trees for the forest.

bro, that doesnt make sense at all, if he started the whole building that school thing, why should i pass it off to someone else? and if you think so who is another leader that you see is fit?

Head step aside because wherever he goes the cloud of that $500k will always be over his head. He's a distraction to the cause. What's more important, him leading or the people being led?

dude, he asked for donations to help build a school. He didnt promise people triple return on their investment. "hey give me $100, Ill give you $1000 by next month". Thats a scam.

He had a vision and he asked for donation. SO FAR, it hasnt come to fruition.

man, im done with you

You done with me but not the dude who took donations for a school years ago with little to no updates. Noted.

 

[layziegunts]

we need 2 threads. smh

1) post your grievances against Umar
2) discussion about the things Umar be talking about

 

[iamdef]

This is a prime example of why he does not make a good leader. His name carries both the grievances and the accolades. But the grievances outweigh the accolades.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

This actually came up on my newsfeed just now. Any truth to this?

 

[layziegunts]

this is that same c word nonsense.

If you read what was on his post he said he is "saying goodbye to his public speaking career"

he is NOT DOING PUBLIC SPEAKING TOURS ANYMORE to focus on doing other things like the school and his school psychology thing (what his normal career is).

I SWEAR BLACK PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY THE WORST lol

 

[iamdef]

This is the only new news I see on him

Popular speaker Umar Johnson faces fines over lack of psychology license
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/p...n-psychology-license-discipline-20180102.html

After reading that some things need to be corrected and highlighted. He requested 5 million, received approximately $400k. That's less than 10% of the goal. There's no reason he should not have either given the money back or reestablished what he was gonna use the funds for

 

[iamdef]

this is that same c word nonsense.

If you read what was on his post he said he is "saying goodbye to his public speaking career"

he is NOT DOING PUBLIC SPEAKING TOURS ANYMORE to focus on doing other things like the school and his school psychology thing.

I SWEAR BLACK PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY THE WORST lol

Oh so he's doing that stepping back thing I was saying before that you questioned why he would step back? Ah......

 

[RustyShackleford]

This actually came up on my newsfeed just now. Any truth to this?

Umar outchea like...

We need an update version with Umar's face and a full length dashiki

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

this is that same c word nonsense.

If you read what was on his post he said he is "saying goodbye to his public speaking career"

he is NOT DOING PUBLIC SPEAKING TOURS ANYMORE to focus on doing other things like the school and his school psychology thing (what his normal career is).

I SWEAR BLACK PEOPLE ARE LITERALLY THE WORST lol

Calm down bro. Just asking if there was any legitimacy to it. I’m not one to post facebook memes and pass them off as facts. Which is why I asked.