Official "Where's My Change" Thread...

Originally Posted by Barack 0drama

Here's my list:

- Rescind Patriot Act or at the very least rework it.
I feel you 100% on that one, But chill...You trying to get my man killed?
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Going against "you know who" is what got Kennedy killed...He need to be careful.

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Yo, I didn't say take steps to abolish the CIA.
That's what got Kennedy killed.
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Originally Posted by kix4kix

Originally Posted by dnaisdaillest

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

What Change would Nt'ers like to see.

Here's my list:

- Rescind Patriot Act or at the very least rework it.
- Renegotiate NAFTA and GATT
- End Corp. Offshore Tax Haven/ Money Laundering loopholes
- Force the SEC to actually do it's job and not aid corruption
- Cut Military Budget (both main and supplemental, which stands at 1.055 $trillion right now) by at least 25%
- Close and withdraw from at least 25% of overseas bases
- Reduce Federal involvement in state matters
- Give us real BLS data, not the cooked government numbers
- Reduce fiscal spending by at least 20%
- Serious look into medicare fraud and take some action
- shore up the borders
- end the "war on drugs" or at least heavily cut funding thereby killing it for all intents and purposes
- get rid of "homeland security"

Things I think we can do without

- national civilian brigades
- active policy of "spreading the wealth" (if he mends the problems with the current form of "globalization" this will take care of itself)
- not buying into the carbon credit scheme.
- put gay marriage, abortion, religion in schools, fairness doctrine, and other not so important issues on the back burner

Obama says he'll give us change. If he even acts on a 1/4 of these I 'll give him his props and will vote for him next time.
I'm not optimistic though.
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We'll see how it turns out.
i dont know who you voted for but both candidates said they would not repeal the patriot act. homeland security is not going away. medicare "fraud" will be handled because more people will be covered under baracks heallthcare plan. military budget will be cut because we will pull out of iraq. as far as abortion and gay rights issues those are usually handled at a state level so the federal goverment has no involvement in that.


Not putting words in his mouth but he never said he voted.

Agree with most of the list
NY ballot FTL.
Baldwin wasn't on it.

So Nader got my vote.
 
Originally Posted by dnaisdaillest

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by dnaisdaillest

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

What Change would Nt'ers like to see.

Here's my list:

- Rescind Patriot Act or at the very least rework it.
- Renegotiate NAFTA and GATT
- End Corp. Offshore Tax Haven/ Money Laundering loopholes
- Force the SEC to actually do it's job and not aid corruption
- Cut Military Budget (both main and supplemental, which stands at 1.055 $trillion right now) by at least 25%
- Close and withdraw from at least 25% of overseas bases
- Reduce Federal involvement in state matters
- Give us real BLS data, not the cooked government numbers
- Reduce fiscal spending by at least 20%
- Serious look into medicare fraud and take some action
- shore up the borders
- end the "war on drugs" or at least heavily cut funding thereby killing it for all intents and purposes
- get rid of "homeland security"

Things I think we can do without

- national civilian brigades
- active policy of "spreading the wealth" (if he mends the problems with the current form of "globalization" this will take care of itself)
- not buying into the carbon credit scheme.
- put gay marriage, abortion, religion in schools, fairness doctrine, and other not so important issues on the back burner

Obama says he'll give us change. If he even acts on a 1/4 of these I 'll give him his props and will vote for him next time.
I'm not optimistic though.
laugh.gif
ohwell.gif

We'll see how it turns out.
i dont know who you voted for but both candidates said they would not repeal the patriot act. homeland security is not going away. medicare "fraud" will be handled because more people will be covered under baracks heallthcare plan. military budget will be cut because we will pull out of iraq. as far as abortion and gay rights issues those are usually handled at a state level so the federal goverment has no involvement in that.
I don't want him to even waste time on abortion, gay marriage, or religion in schools.

More participants in a national plan = more fraud.

We'll see what happens. As I stated. I'm not optimistic.
won't happen. he is going to focus on what got him elected. that is the economy, health care and national security. what you said will be handled by state and local officials and so you should direct you pessimism at them.
All of the issues I listed are handled on the federal level.

That's why I said Obama shouldn't get invovled in abortion, etc. because those are state issues.
 
Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by Barack 0drama

Here's my list:

- Rescind Patriot Act or at the very least rework it.
I feel you 100% on that one, But chill...You trying to get my man killed?
smh.gif
laugh.gif


Going against "you know who" is what got Kennedy killed...He need to be careful.
haha
Yo, I didn't say take steps to abolish the CIA.
That's what got Kennedy killed.
nerd.gif




I know, But you think they want the Patriot Act dismantled after all the work they did to put it in place?
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Originally Posted by wawaweewa


- Cut Military Budget (both main and supplemental, which stands at 1.055 $trillion right now) by at least 25%
No, no, and no. Soldiers would be the first to suffer and they don't get paid much to begin with. $23k dollars a year with combat pay ftl
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Originally Posted by Barack 0drama

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by Barack 0drama

Here's my list:

- Rescind Patriot Act or at the very least rework it.
I feel you 100% on that one, But chill...You trying to get my man killed?
smh.gif
laugh.gif


Going against "you know who" is what got Kennedy killed...He need to be careful.
haha
Yo, I didn't say take steps to abolish the CIA.
That's what got Kennedy killed.
nerd.gif

I know, But you think they want the Patriot Act dismantled after all the work they did to put it in place?
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He's promising big things. Time to man up.
Change not status quo, right?

Biden did mention killing it but he shut up real quick after that.
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Originally Posted by ninjallamafromhell

Originally Posted by wawaweewa


- Cut Military Budget (both main and supplemental, which stands at 1.055 $trillion right now) by at least 25%
No, no, and no. Soldiers would be the first to suffer and they don't get paid much to begin with. $23k dollars a year with combat pay ftl
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I'd guess that 80% of the military budget doesn't go to pay.
In 2001 the Pentagon told us it was missing $2 trillion.

There are 100's of areas to trim. Pay should never be trimmed. Soldiers should get a raise.
 
Originally Posted by wawaweewa

What Change would Nt'ers like to see.

Here's my list:

- Rescind Patriot Act or at the very least rework it.
- Renegotiate NAFTA and GATT
- End Corp. Offshore Tax Haven/ Money Laundering loopholes
- Force the SEC to actually do it's job and not aid corruption
- Cut Military Budget (both main and supplemental, which stands at 1.055 $trillion right now) by at least 25%
- Close and withdraw from at least 25% of overseas bases
- Reduce Federal involvement in state matters
- Give us real BLS data, not the cooked government numbers
- Reduce fiscal spending by at least 20%
- Serious look into medicare fraud and take some action
- shore up the borders
- end the "war on drugs" or at least heavily cut funding thereby killing it for all intents and purposes
- get rid of "homeland security"
Not that I particularly disagree with the non-bolded, but I definitely agree with the bolded.

I'm with you, there's a lot of work to be done, hopefully he can make the "change" that was promised to those of us who voted for him.
 
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