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Lebron is so grossly underpaid. Dude would be pulling 80mil/year easy if NBA had no cap. Owners fleeced them bad in the CBA. Next one gonna be real ugly. Canceling an entire season wouldnt shock me. But I bet Lebron is #1 on that list if you factor in endorsements.
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Mikey Garcia suing Arum over money. AKA I'm tryna force my way over to Haymon/GBP...Welp, he won't be fighting for awhile, word to Andre Ward. AND HBO loses another one...
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Stupid Arum. I was looking forward to Crawford vs Garcia and he could've really sold him as the last hope from the Garcia gym to beat Pacquiao.
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How fast do you think they would've moved him to 147? He was just at 126 not too long ago.
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The plan was to move him up to get a Pacquiao payday, his handlers want it ASAP and don't care about his well-being. The word around town is that Mikey isn't even really passionate about boxing, he does it almost strictly for the money. I'm not confident in him beating the top 135 lbers. Wouldn't even be surprised if Juan Diaz beats him.
Speaking of 135 lb, it looks like Crawford vs Beltran is in the works.
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I've never had high regards for Garcia I also think he'd lose if he moved up in weight.
If he were to go to 140 it's a wrap for him.
If he were to go to 140 it's a wrap for him.
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The plan was to move him up to get a Pacquiao payday, his handlers want it ASAP and don't care about his well-being. The word around town is that Mikey isn't even really passionate about boxing, he does it almost strictly for the money. I'm not confident in him beating the top 135 lbers. Wouldn't even be surprised if Juan Diaz beats him.
Speaking of 135 lb, it looks like Crawford vs Beltran is in the works.
Yeah Mikey said he wants to be a police officer once he is done with boxing.
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Wladimir Klitschko vs Alex Leapai April 26th on ESPN
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I've been using Winning gloves since I was a kid and I haven't ever had any issues. They're the best gloves in the business, in my opinion. For sparring, I use a pair of 16 oz. Grant gloves because I like the way they conform to my wrists and provide a snug fit.Yo, these dudes in my gym learning to jab while wearing boxing boots and Winning lace ups need to go....
But I did see this one dude come into the gym last week with three different sets of Ringside gloves. Dude was wiffing on the mitts, smh.
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I like Rival gloves. I think it's hit or miss, some love them others hate them.
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I've heard Rival are quite good. When I bought my gloves (Fighting Sports Tri Tech Training Gloves), I did my homework and Rival, Ringside and Fighting Sports came back as the better models for the price for training. With Winning, Reyes, Grant being the next level up.
But everyone has their likes and dislikes. I really wanted a glove I could put on/take off myself easily. Heard the hook + loop on some Rival gloves is tricky and and I hated pulling down the sleeve on the Ringside IMF techs I bought a while back. The latest model don't have it.
I love my Fighting Sports pair. I train in 14oz gloves though.
When I (hopefully) start sparring again, I may treat myself to a custom 16oz pair of either Winning or Grant.
But everyone has their likes and dislikes. I really wanted a glove I could put on/take off myself easily. Heard the hook + loop on some Rival gloves is tricky and and I hated pulling down the sleeve on the Ringside IMF techs I bought a while back. The latest model don't have it.
I love my Fighting Sports pair. I train in 14oz gloves though.
When I (hopefully) start sparring again, I may treat myself to a custom 16oz pair of either Winning or Grant.
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I'd advise you to go with Winning over Grant because they make a more comfortable and protective glove. Both Winning and Grant 16 oz. gloves should be all-foam, but the Winning gloves are a little more padded.
Grant will give you more customization options when it comes to colors, but Winning uses a thicker thread and the thumb isn't as tight as Grant's 16 oz. offering.
Grant will give you more customization options when it comes to colors, but Winning uses a thicker thread and the thumb isn't as tight as Grant's 16 oz. offering.
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What do you guys think of Title gloves?
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I'm not too hot on Title. I'd choose Ringside over Title personally.
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I know some guys who own Title gloves and like them.
They remind me of Everlast in that they make so many gloves, that you need to get past their basic models and you'll find some good ones on the upper end.
I believe Fighting Sports is affiliated with Title somehow. It's like their high end Japanese offshoot I think. And I love mine.
They remind me of Everlast in that they make so many gloves, that you need to get past their basic models and you'll find some good ones on the upper end.
I believe Fighting Sports is affiliated with Title somehow. It's like their high end Japanese offshoot I think. And I love mine.
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I think I have to agree with this overall. While I prefer Ringside, Title's upper end products are pretty good. I too had a pair of Fight Sports gloves back in 2008 when they first dropped and I like them. And I too believe they are a Title brand, however as far as I know it's still a domestic brand taking style elements from Winning as a marketing strategy.
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What about footwear? What are you guys using?
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Adidas. Any of the models that are $100+ are solid. The white Adidas Adistars are my favorite, but theyre hard to find now. Just be aware that a lot of wrestling shoes are advertised as boxing shoes. Some say theyre one in the same, others disagree.
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You can use wrestling shoes instead of boxing shoes without any issues. The only real difference is that wrestling shoes have more grip, aren't as smooth and they have different grip zones than boxing shoes. Wrestling shoes are made to drive, boxing shoes are made to pivot.
As for brands, Adidas, ASICS, Mizuno and Reebok are the best. I'm currently on my second pair of ASICS Setsuna boots' and I'm very pleased with them. They're lightweight, have good grip and provide a comfortable fit.
As for brands, Adidas, ASICS, Mizuno and Reebok are the best. I'm currently on my second pair of ASICS Setsuna boots' and I'm very pleased with them. They're lightweight, have good grip and provide a comfortable fit.
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Where can you buy the last three brands in the US? I've wanted to try them for a while.
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I HOPE MIKEY JOINS GOLDEN BOY AND A POSSIBLE FIGHT WITH OMAR FIGUEROA WOULD BE
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/10788519/miguel-angel-garcia-files-suit-top-rank
Garcia files suit against Top Rank
Updated: April 16, 2014, 12:09 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
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Junior lightweight titleholder Miguel Angel "Mikey" Garcia, declaring that his promotional agreement with Top Rank is illegal and also expired, sued the company in California State Court in Riverside County on April 8.
The suit, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN.com, says that the reason for the action is because of "Top Rank's unlawful attempt to exploit, own and permanently control" Garcia's boxing career "as well as Top Rank's consistent violation of the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act, a federal statute enacted for the express purpose of protecting professional boxers like Garcia from the exploitive practice of boxing promoters like Top Rank."
Further, the suit claims that his promotional agreement "improperly provides Top Rank the ability to extend the agreement indefinitely, essentially rendering the contracting fighter an indentured servant of Top Rank."
"Mikey has no further obligation to Top Rank under the 2009 promotional rights agreement that he signed," attorney Bryan Freedman, who is representing Garcia, told ESPN.com on Tuesday. "It's very clear for a number of reasons, but that's our position. There are a number of reasons why it's invalid. Even if it hadn't expired under its own terms, Top Rank acted not only as a promoter but also as a manager under the definition of manager in California and that is against the law. This is an absolute fairness issue."
The suit uses also claims that Top Rank "violated numerous provisions of both California law and California's strong public policy to protect California-based boxers from unscrupulous promoters and managers," while also accusing Top Rank of acting as Garcia's "unlicensed manager."
In another claim in the suit, Garcia said Top Rank violated the Ali act by not making federally required disclosures concerning the amount of money the company would make from Garcia's bouts.
"The act itself has been rarely been litigated but it requires Top Rank to make disclosures to Mikey before his bouts on the amount of money they would be receiving from his bouts. He did not get those disclosures," Freedman said. "There are a number of different illegalities in this agreement, including how it was extended under different scenarios. If you look at it you'd say he's done (with the contract) even without any violation of the law."
The suit claims that Garcia's contract with Top Rank expired on Feb. 27.
Top Rank chairman Bob Arum and Top Rank president Todd duBoef, Arum's stepson, could not be reached for comment as they are out of the country on a family trip.
Cameron Dunkin, Garcia's manager, told ESPN.com on Monday night that he had no knowledge of the lawsuit and declined comment.
Garcia (34-0, 28 KOs), 26, of Oxnard, Calif., has been promoted by Top Rank for his entire professional career, which began in 2006. Under Top Rank's guidance, Garcia has won two world titles, a featherweight belt in January 2013 and a junior lightweight belt in November, and is widely regarded as one of the best fighters in the world. He was stripped of his featherweight title for failing to make weight for a June 2013 defense. Top Rank has also secured Garcia five consecutive lucrative fights on HBO.
Still, Garcia, according to the suit, "will seek a declaration from the court that he has no further obligations to Top Rank under the promotional rights agreement and, therefore, is free to schedule future fights without any interference from Top Rank and he is entitled to actual damages as a result of Top Rank's violation of the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act."
Asked if Garcia was interested in remaining with Top Rank if the issues are ironed out, Freedman said, "I think he'd be open to having a discussion. If they present him with the same contract though I think there's going to be a similar issue. Until this particular issue is resolved there is a serious dispute if they have any rights to promote him.
"I'm hopeful that Top Rank will take a look at this and seriously study their agreement. If they do they will agree he doesn't have an obligation to Top Rank. And if they want to negotiate a new deal they can have a discussion about it. If they don't it could be a court process. But there is no way you can look at this and say he is still bound to the contract (he signed in 2009)."
Garcia's last fight was on Jan. 25, when he easily outpointed Juan Carlos Burgos at the Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York in an HBO-televised main event.
Top Rank and HBO had hoped to match Garcia next with interim lightweight titlist Yuriorkis Gamboa but that fell apart, according to Top Rank, over Garcia's exorbitant financial demands. Arum has also talked about Garcia moving up in weight to eventually face superstar Manny Pacquiao.
I HOPE MIKEY JOINS GOLDEN BOY AND A POSSIBLE FIGHT WITH OMAR FIGUEROA WOULD BE
http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/10788519/miguel-angel-garcia-files-suit-top-rank
Garcia files suit against Top Rank
Updated: April 16, 2014, 12:09 AM ET
By Dan Rafael | ESPN.com
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Junior lightweight titleholder Miguel Angel "Mikey" Garcia, declaring that his promotional agreement with Top Rank is illegal and also expired, sued the company in California State Court in Riverside County on April 8.
The suit, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN.com, says that the reason for the action is because of "Top Rank's unlawful attempt to exploit, own and permanently control" Garcia's boxing career "as well as Top Rank's consistent violation of the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act, a federal statute enacted for the express purpose of protecting professional boxers like Garcia from the exploitive practice of boxing promoters like Top Rank."
Further, the suit claims that his promotional agreement "improperly provides Top Rank the ability to extend the agreement indefinitely, essentially rendering the contracting fighter an indentured servant of Top Rank."
"Mikey has no further obligation to Top Rank under the 2009 promotional rights agreement that he signed," attorney Bryan Freedman, who is representing Garcia, told ESPN.com on Tuesday. "It's very clear for a number of reasons, but that's our position. There are a number of reasons why it's invalid. Even if it hadn't expired under its own terms, Top Rank acted not only as a promoter but also as a manager under the definition of manager in California and that is against the law. This is an absolute fairness issue."
The suit uses also claims that Top Rank "violated numerous provisions of both California law and California's strong public policy to protect California-based boxers from unscrupulous promoters and managers," while also accusing Top Rank of acting as Garcia's "unlicensed manager."
In another claim in the suit, Garcia said Top Rank violated the Ali act by not making federally required disclosures concerning the amount of money the company would make from Garcia's bouts.
"The act itself has been rarely been litigated but it requires Top Rank to make disclosures to Mikey before his bouts on the amount of money they would be receiving from his bouts. He did not get those disclosures," Freedman said. "There are a number of different illegalities in this agreement, including how it was extended under different scenarios. If you look at it you'd say he's done (with the contract) even without any violation of the law."
The suit claims that Garcia's contract with Top Rank expired on Feb. 27.
Top Rank chairman Bob Arum and Top Rank president Todd duBoef, Arum's stepson, could not be reached for comment as they are out of the country on a family trip.
Cameron Dunkin, Garcia's manager, told ESPN.com on Monday night that he had no knowledge of the lawsuit and declined comment.
Garcia (34-0, 28 KOs), 26, of Oxnard, Calif., has been promoted by Top Rank for his entire professional career, which began in 2006. Under Top Rank's guidance, Garcia has won two world titles, a featherweight belt in January 2013 and a junior lightweight belt in November, and is widely regarded as one of the best fighters in the world. He was stripped of his featherweight title for failing to make weight for a June 2013 defense. Top Rank has also secured Garcia five consecutive lucrative fights on HBO.
Still, Garcia, according to the suit, "will seek a declaration from the court that he has no further obligations to Top Rank under the promotional rights agreement and, therefore, is free to schedule future fights without any interference from Top Rank and he is entitled to actual damages as a result of Top Rank's violation of the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act."
Asked if Garcia was interested in remaining with Top Rank if the issues are ironed out, Freedman said, "I think he'd be open to having a discussion. If they present him with the same contract though I think there's going to be a similar issue. Until this particular issue is resolved there is a serious dispute if they have any rights to promote him.
"I'm hopeful that Top Rank will take a look at this and seriously study their agreement. If they do they will agree he doesn't have an obligation to Top Rank. And if they want to negotiate a new deal they can have a discussion about it. If they don't it could be a court process. But there is no way you can look at this and say he is still bound to the contract (he signed in 2009)."
Garcia's last fight was on Jan. 25, when he easily outpointed Juan Carlos Burgos at the Theater at Madison Square Garden in New York in an HBO-televised main event.
Top Rank and HBO had hoped to match Garcia next with interim lightweight titlist Yuriorkis Gamboa but that fell apart, according to Top Rank, over Garcia's exorbitant financial demands. Arum has also talked about Garcia moving up in weight to eventually face superstar Manny Pacquiao.
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