Poker at the casino - tips?

[vancity74]

So I tried searching on Google but every result I got was to sign up for a poker sight.

Anyways, I know that a lot of you guys on this forum play live cash poker so I was wondering if you could give me general tips? Up until now, I'vealmost exclusively played tournaments (generally short handed sit-n-go's, both online and live). I understand how to play short-handed tournaments, butwhen it comes to cash games, I'm not quite sure of how most people are successful in becoming profitible. I know a lot of my friends will not play a handuntil they get the bullets or kings and then they 'push & pray'. I don't think that stretgy would work for me as I like to see the flop moreoften then not. Are casino cash games basically about bullying or being bullied?

Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[kingtre]

damn if we can get some answers this thread could be

but i think mostprob play online

me I play alot more "live" but always sit + gos...i'd like to learn more too...

i think the key is limiting buy-ins? but im not sure....like say everyone sits down with say $500...what would that game be called? i know if i sit down with1k to play and somebody sits next to me with 10k the game will be tilted heavy his way from the rip...

 

[vancity74]

^ Which is exactly the problem. Not to mention if the limit is $500 and some dude has been sitting there since 1pm in the afternoon, taking everyone'sstack, he would have a HUGE advantage.

Basically, I'm going to the casino tomorrow to play and I don't really want to look like a noob AT ALL.

 

[kingtre]

Originally Posted by Vancity74

^ Which is exactly the problem. Not to mention if the limit is $500 and some dude has been sitting there since 1pm in the afternoon, taking everyone's stack, he would have a HUGE advantage.

Basically, I'm going to the casino tomorrow to play and I don't really want to look like a noob AT ALL.

i feel you...i've been playing for like 2 years and its ALWAYS sit + go tourneys...i never played anything else

time to see whats out there

 

[m00dswing7]

Here's a few tips from my experiences:

- Two pairs ain't @*$! if someone is raising in front of you.
- Try not to get into pots when more than two people are betting in front of you, especially if you got a marginal hand.
- The strip is full of fishes... Alot of them are on a schedule so they want to get action regardless of what hand they have.
- Be patient at the table, wait for nut flushes and full houses.
- If youre gonna sit at one table make sure your style varies.
- The dealer change can kill your hot streak.... Trust me!!! - Dont be afraid to switch tables if your not felling the hands your getting dealt.
- There's lots of OLD people...

Make sure you carry a sufficient enough bankroll and try not to TILT!!!

 

[kingtre]

Originally Posted by M00DSWING7

Here's a few tips from my experiences:

- Two pairs ain't $*** if someone is raising in front of you.
- Try not to get into pots when more than two people are betting in front of you, especially if you got a marginal hand.
- The strip is full of fishes... Alot of them are on a schedule so they want to get action regardless of what hand they have.
- Be patient at the table, wait for nut flushes and full houses.
- If youre gonna sit at one table make sure your style varies.
- The dealer change can kill your hot streak.... Trust me!!! - Dont be afraid to switch tables if your not felling the hands your getting dealt.
- There's lots of OLD people...

Make sure you carry a sufficient enough bankroll though... and try not to TILT!!!

perfect example of reading the title and hitting reply

 

[vancity74]

^ Nah his reply was kinda what I was looking for.

What about raises? If I'm dealt the bullets and the table is $1/2, do I raise to $10, or similar to a tourny, do I just pump it up to three or four timesthe BB?

 

[jumpman247]

If you win a lot of money call 9/11 so you can be escorted out safely.

 

[fr3sh like ughh]

why dont we have a online NT tournament ?

 

[jumpman247]

Originally Posted by FR3SH like UgHH

why dont we have a online NT tournament ?

We tried back in 2002 when Poker was really popular, but Methodman said no.

 

[m00dswing7]

As far as buy-in and someone big stacking at the table:

There's always a buy in limit... When I play I normaly do 1/2 No Limit. Max buyin is $200 at those tables.
Even at those low blinds it can get ugly cause it's still No Limit!!!

People big stack at the table all the time... Just play them like you would in a tournament.
You don't really wanna push against them heads up unless you think you have the NUTS.

What about raises? If I'm dealt the bullets and the table is $1/2, do I raise to $10, or similar to a tourny, do I just pump it up to three or four times the BB?
It all depends on the people youre playing at the table...

 

[grandaddypurp415]

at first be patient and dont play too many hands. Get a feel for the table and the aggressors, callers, raisers atc. then play ccordingly.. Oh yeah playingstright forward poker works well on novice players, so play tight if they are loose, and loose if they are tight. Try not to talk too much to people so theycant tell how you are. I bring an I pod with me to get through the long periods with no action, but rmemeber to put songs on pause when you are in a hand

 

[ii2cky]

get a bad@ss nickname

btw, what site would u guys recommend just for some free online action?

 

[kingtre]

Originally Posted by M00DSWING7

As far as buy-in and someone big stacking at the table:

There's always a buy in limit... When I play I normaly do 1/2 No Limit. Max buyin is $200 at those tables.
Even at those low blinds it can get ugly cause it's still No Limit!!!

People big stack at the table all the time... Just play them like you would in a tournament.
You don't really wanna push against them heads up unless you think you have the NUTS.

What about raises? If I'm dealt the bullets and the table is $1/2, do I raise to $10, or similar to a tourny, do I just pump it up to three or four times the BB?

It all depends on the people youre playing at the table...



now we're talking

the first hints apply to both games...butthis is non tourney specific....

so there are limits to buy-ins....i play at foxwoods and i walk by some tables where dudes have 4-5 trays of chips THEN a couple banded up stacks of billsas well...what the hell is the buy in there?

Try not to talk too much to people so they cant tell how you are. I bring an I pod with me to get through the long periods with no action, but rmemeber to put songs on pause when you are in a hand
the ipod does wonders for me! i usually keep one ear off just to know whats popping...sit + gos move slow enough to where i don't need to hearto see what the bets are etc

 

[6demonbag]

old people wont raise unless they have something good....and there are tons of donkeys, observe first then play where you think youll do well....

 

[air flight 815]

- If you don't want to deal with suck outs, stay away from the low limit games. People call with everything.
- If your the type who doesn't know when to stop, I say take only a certain amount of money with you and leave the atm/credit cards at home.

 

[demax777]

The main thing is to be PATIENT.
Play your hands instead of the table.
There isn't a lot of bluffing in cash games compared to tournament play.
Take time to read the players when you aren't in the hands...electronics aren't allowed @ the casinos here in the D (Detroit). Plus, you reallydisconnect yourself from the table when you have distractions like that.

 

[m00dswing7]

so there are limits to buy-ins....i play at foxwoods and i walk by some tables where dudes have 4-5 trays of chips THEN a couple banded up stacks of bills as well...what the hell is the buy in there?
It all varies at different casinos... I know some Vegas casinos have no max buyins... You can bring whatever you want.

What I usually do is ask the the Pitboss what the buyins are.... They breakdown each and every table.

 

[vancity74]

anyone else?

 

[Jdotrozay]

man, i just came from the casino last week, i wanted to hop into a table, so i cashed out on some chips only $40, and they gave me only like 10 chips!!! as iwalked to the table i seen people who had stacks of chips so i said nevermind, then i just played on a table only against the dealer. So I say you need to cashin a lot of dough so you can have plenty chips. But I also hopped in a tournament where they gave you $3000 worth of chips, and when I bet 500 everyone wouldfold lol.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by Air Flight 815

- If you don't want to deal with suck outs, stay away from the low limit games. People call with everything.
- If your the type who doesn't know when to stop, I say take only a certain amount of money with you and leave the atm/credit cards at home.

So true

. I hate making my way to the ATM machine when I'm tilting.

 

[mike23theking]

Originally Posted by Vancity74

I know a lot of my friends will not play a hand until they get the bullets or kings and then they 'push & pray'. I don't think that stretgy would work for me as I like to see the flop more often then not. Are casino cash games basically about bullying or being bullied?

We play alike. I wanna see a flop, so if my hole cards are connected in ANY way... sure, let's see it especially if it's cheap enough.

Where are you playing, btw? I frequent Vegas and I stick to the 1/2 or 1/3 games, so I've built a comfort level in certain casinos. I'm sureit's a lot different depending on where you actually play.

Originally Posted by Kingtre

i think the key is limiting buy-ins? but im not sure....like say everyone sits down with say $500...what would that game be called? i know if i sit down with 1k to play and somebody sits next to me with 10k the game will be tilted heavy his way from the rip...

Yes. And here's why... if you limit the money you decide to buy in with, you can pick and choose your spots a lot easier. Unless you plan on bringing1k w/ you, you don't have to put yourself in any bad predicaments.

Originally Posted by Vancity74

^ Which is exactly the problem. Not to mention if the limit is $500 and some dude has been sitting there since 1pm in the afternoon, taking everyone's stack, he would have a HUGE advantage.

Basically, I'm going to the casino tomorrow to play and I don't really want to look like a noob AT ALL.

It's pretty easy to NOT look like a noob as long as you play within the table. If the table's quiet, keep it quiet. If it's prettyconversational and you don't mind talking, join in.

Originally Posted by M00DSWING7

Here's a few tips from my experiences:

- Two pairs ain't @*$! if someone is raising in front of you.
- Try not to get into pots when more than two people are betting in front of you, especially if you got a marginal hand.
- The strip is full of fishes... Alot of them are on a schedule so they want to get action regardless of what hand they have.
- Be patient at the table, wait for nut flushes and full houses.
- If youre gonna sit at one table make sure your style varies.
- The dealer change can kill your hot streak.... Trust me!!! - Dont be afraid to switch tables if your not felling the hands your getting dealt.
- There's lots of OLD people...

Make sure you carry a sufficient enough bankroll and try not to TILT!!!

Umm, that's the best! Especially the already drunk heads that sit down, drop about $500 in about an hour, then leave to go drinking some more.

Listen to what he said though... It's pretty much on point.

Originally Posted by Vancity74

What about raises? If I'm dealt the bullets and the table is $1/2, do I raise to $10, or similar to a tourny, do I just pump it up to three or four times the BB?

This is another reason you may wanna be patient and not play your first few hands. In big casinos, the raises are typically in the $12-15. But if youwanna weed out the players if you have Rockets or Kings, I'd go up to about $25-30... Better to win a small pot than get bad beat and lose all your chips.

Originally Posted by M00DSWING7

As far as buy-in and someone big stacking at the table:

There's always a buy in limit... When I play I normaly do 1/2 No Limit. Max buyin is $200 at those tables.
Even at those low blinds it can get ugly cause it's still No Limit!!!

People big stack at the table all the time... Just play them like you would in a tournament.
You don't really wanna push against them heads up unless you think you have the NUTS.

For some reason, I like buying in the minimum... even if the table max is $500. It limits me to certain hands, plus I LOVE the idea of cracking the biggerstacks and making them buy in again while my $100 stack increases.

Originally Posted by GrandaddyPurp415

at first be patient and dont play too many hands. Get a feel for the table and the aggressors, callers, raisers atc. then play ccordingly..

Yup.

Originally Posted by Demax777

electronics aren't allowed @ the casinos here in the D (Detroit). Plus, you really disconnect yourself from the table when you have distractions like that.

Like I said, depending on where you play you can even have your cellphone in the cupholder... that's what I usually do. But bring an iPod if you wantso you won't get too bored if you decide to play really selective or passive.

 

[vancity74]

So I made this post like 3 months ago. Since then, I've had some nights where I would leave up $500, and I've had 3 or 4 nights where I would leavedown $100 (and 1 night where I lost $200). The other night I lost my first hand of the night when someone moved all in on the turn (I was holding top 2 pairs)and hit his flush on the river. This happens to me all the time! Then the next hand, I get tripled up when I move all in on a flop of 456 (I was holding A6). Iwas called by AK and AQ. A couple of hands later I lose $100 to some donk that called my preflop raise of $20 (I had pocket 10's) with a K7 and hit his 3rd7 on the turn (flop, turn, and river were all undercards to my 10's)... I saw some kid reraise someone who just raised $15 to $60, only to have someoneelse call the $60 (very reluctantly) and have the $15 raiser fold. Flop came all rags, $60 raiser bets out $100, $60 caller folds, showing that he had AKsuited. $60 raiser turns over A7 offsuit and the caller almost puked.

I also finished in 6th place in my first ever live tournament (got a nice little paycheque for that finish).

The other night, some lady at the table beside me won the bad beat jackpot ($100,000). She was holding pocket 5's. Flop comes 55J. She bets out, and gets 1called. Turn comes rag. She bets out, and gets called again. River comes a J. She bets out, other guy moves all in, and she obviously is delighted to call. Sheflips over her quad 5's, and he flips over his quad J's. The people at that table got $5,000 just for sitting at the table when it happened. I was sochoked it didn't happen at my table.

I've also come to realize that the only time I get dealt KK or AA is when I'm in the small blind and everyone has folded around to me.

Poker is a b*tch of a game but I love it!

 

[obie21]

yea, like dudes have been saying..watch out for those idiots that call everything..that can really +@*! up your game if they catch !$@+

 

[vancity74]

Lastnight I was 1 card away from winning $45,000.

Picked up K10d in the small blind. Someone in early position raises to $15 and there are 4 callers, myself included. Flop comes Ad/Qd/Qc. I check, the raiserbets out $35, two people fold, and I call. Next card is a rag. He bets out $35 again. At this point I'm putting him on a set of Queens and I'm having ahard time convincing myself to make the call because although I have outs, I'm behind in the hand. Regardless, there's $130 in the pot so I make thecall. The river shows a Jack of diamonds. I've hit the royal flush. I check, and buddy moves all in. I insta-call and he turns over QA. If the flop hadcome an AAQ instead of AQQ, he would be $80,000 richer, and I would probably be putting a downpayment on an E92 M3 right now.

Oh well.