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if you pick Jay-Z's best song, it doesnt come close to any of Nas' top 10.......so how to people consider him the goat, it doesnt make sense
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Here's what I'm gonna do, because I honestly don't have a favorite verse, I'm gonna go to Reasonable Doubt and press shuffle andpost the lyrics of the first verse I get, then I'm gonna go to shuffle on his whole catalog and post a few other verses. I know I'm doing what you toldme not to do but not picking one, but I'm confident any verse I find will display why he is a great MC. Gimme a minute here....Originally Posted by MidEastBeast
Post Jay-Z's best verse in your opinion.
One verse.
I don't wanna see a flood of *!$$ from random stans talkin' about "i couldn't choose just one blah blah"
Pick something that you feel highlights why Jay is top 5, worth d-riding, is comparable to Nas, is a great lyricist etc.
We will go from there.
Originally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife
if you pick Jay-Z's best song, it doesnt come close to any of Nas' top 10.......so how to people consider him the goat, it doesnt make sense
Originally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife
For you Jay-Z fans, can you realistically give me one song better than ANY of these:
Sly Fox
Black Girl Lost
Fetus
Undying Love
Surviving the Times
Rewind
Rule
Look at my verses as well.Originally Posted by MidEastBeast
As expected, we start with RD.
Anyway,
That isn't a bad verse, but I don't see ANYTHING as special about it as dudes are making Jay out to be. Nothing mind-blowing at all, just a typical "rags-to-riches" type done no where near as well as plenty of others have.
Of course, NT and the average Jay stan's favorite line: "I'd rather die enormous than live dormant"
Really ? It's a concept that has been said for years by many different people, many in better ways than this. But when Jay says it, it's absolutely brilliant work rivaling the theory of relativity. I don't see anything in it.
I can go post a plethora of verses off Illmatic right now, but I'm pretty sure most knowledgeable rap fans already memorized illmatic, so that is pointless. Both of their best works side by side and Nas easily wins.
How can a man be GOAT or top 5 or whatever NT is claiming right now when one of his "best verses" (which I asked to highlight his lyricism) is so plain and has been outdone by plenty of rappers, some of whom mop the floor, ceiling and walls with him lyrically while doing so.
Of course, what's a classic Jay verse without ducktales about moving coke and bragging about how much money he has ?
Don't worry. He's 100% right all of the time and doesn't need to back up his points.Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze
So basically....we posted evidence to back up Jay's lyrical prowess and you responded with more hate and failed attempts at humor?
Every rapper (human) say's things that have already been said. Its about the way you say it and the context of its use.
You just talk a bunch of s_ but never back it up with any solid evidence. Once your shock value runs out....your posts amount to a bunch of babbling. Post a Nas verse that is on another stratosphere from the Jay lyrics above or you ain't saying nothing.
Are you gonna comment on the verses I posted?Originally Posted by MidEastBeast
Nas verses on another stratosphere ?
Plenty to choose from, but let's start with verse #1 off NY state of mind. They are not even in the same league. Nothing Jay has done in his life (I have heard almost everything he's ever done and have most of it) has ever touched it. The vivid imagery alone is
Alright my bad, pick any of them.Originally Posted by MidEastBeast
I'm not tryna post an essay on the half dozen verses you posted. That's why I asked for one.
wow. you lose all credibility with a statement like that.Originally Posted by SiMPLYDiMPLY
i will go out on a limb and say all of jayzs songs > the songs you posted
Originally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife
wow. you lose all credibility with a statement like that.Originally Posted by SiMPLYDiMPLY
i will go out on a limb and say all of jayzs songs > the songs you posted
so you are saying a song like Money, Cash $+*% is better than a song like I Gave you power? shame on you, i'm done replying to you because you obviously are totally clueless
Rappers I monkey flip 'em with the funky rhythm I be kickin
Musician, inflictin composition
of pain I'm like Scarface sniffin cocaine
Holdin a M-16, see with the pen I'm extreme, now
Bulletholes left in my peepholes
I'm suited up in street clothes
Hand me a nine and I'll defeat foes
Y'all know my steelo with or without the airplay
I keep some E&J, sittin bent up in the stairway
Or either on the corner bettin Grants with the celo champs
Laughin at baseheads, tryin to sell some broken amps
G-Packs get off quick, forever $%$@%$ talk %*+#
Remeniscing about the last time the Task Force flipped
$%$@%$ be runnin through the block shootin
Time to start the revolution, catch a body head for Houston
Once they caught us off guard, the Mac-10 was in the grass and
I ran like a cheetah with thoughts of an assassin
Pick the Mac up, told brothers, "Back up," the Mac spit
Lead was hittin n_s one ran, I made him backflip
Heard a few chicks scream my arm shook, couldn't look
Gave another squeeze heard it click yo, my s_ is stuck
Try to %@@% it, it wouldn't shoot now I'm in danger
Finally pulled it back and saw three bullets caught up in the chamber
So now I'm jetting to the building lobby
and it was filled with children probably couldn't see as high as I be
(So whatchu sayin?) It's like the game ain't the same
Got younger $%$@%$ pullin the triggers bringing fame to they name
and claim some corners, crews without guns are goners
In broad daylight, stickup kids, they run up on us
Fo'-fives and gauges, Macs in fact
Same n_s'll catch a back to back, snatchin yo' cracks in black
There was a snitch on the block gettin n_s knocked
So hold your stash until the coke price drop
I know this crackhead, who said she gotta smoke nice rock
And if it's good she'll bring ya customers in measuring pots, but yo
You gotta slide on a vacation
Inside information keeps large n_s erasin and they wives basin
It drops deep as it does in my breath
I never sleep, cause sleep is the cousin of death
Beyond the walls of intelligence, life is defined
I think of crime when I'm in a New York state of mind
I sold it all from crack to o-pium, in third person
I don't wanna see em, so I'm rehearsin
with my peoples high to GM, from a remote lo-cation
in the BM, scopin the whole situation like, "Dayamm!"
Metamorphic, as the dope turns to cre-am
but one of these buyers got eyes like a Korean
It's difficult to read em, the windows to his soul
are half closed, I put the key in
Pulled off slow, hopin my people flee-in
%!#%+ tried to knock the only link that tied me in
Coppers was watchin us through nighttime binoculars
This time they got us on tape, exchangin dope for dollars
Make me wanna, holler back at the crib in the sauna
Prayin my people bailed out like Time/Warner
Awaitin call, from his kin not the coroner
Phone in my hand, nervous confined to a corner
Beads of sweat second thoughts on my mind
How can I ease the stress and learn to live with these regrets
This time... stress... givin this s_ up... f_
Code:As sure as this, Earth is turning souls burningin search of higher learning turning in every direction seeking directionMy moms cryin cause her insides are dyinher son tryin her patience, keep her heart racinA million beats a minute, I know I push you to your limitbut it's this game love, I'm caught up all in itThey make it so you can't prevent it, never give ityou gotta take it, can't fake it I keep it authenticMy hand got this pistol shakin, cause I sense dangerlike Camp Crystal Lake anddon't wanna shoot him, but I got him, trappedwithin this infrared dot, bout to hot him and, hit rock bottomNo answers to these trick questions, no time s_ stressinMy life found I got ta live for the right nowTime waits for no man, can't turn back the handsonce it's too late, gotta learn to live with regrets
I'm done talking
Ran up in the spot gun smoking
Shot it in the air, one woke him
Sun-soaking, sweating in his bed like Dun loc'n
Thinking to himself what done provoked him
His thoughts is racing like a vulcan
I swear I saw a lightbulb when
He finally figured out who was the culprit
I said yeah, remember me from Friend or Foe when
I told you don't ever ever come around here no more
Time to pay now, you try to rise, I wave the gun - lay down
This time you're really going to listen to Jay now
I try to talk sensibly, hoping that eventually you realize
I had this locked and it just wasn't meant to be
Plus I had sympathy when we all wore rams with your kis
And it was an afterthought that maybe you'll try to revenge me
But I was like "Nah", homes had to know he was wrong
And if you caught me on the foul note you would sing me the same song
Plus you promised
And that's really no fun
And here I find you in this Motel 6 with all these guns
And all your goons, lined up in adjoining rooms
Like some wild cowboys coming to get me at high noon
But my mind's like a flower in bloom
Peep how my eyes just scour the room
I'm alert, plus I paid the clerk I got it laid out
You think you the first n_ I played out, in a 2 hotel town?
Come on now, I peep your Lexus at you
Left the exit got some n_s on that side of the town
Money well invested, rudely interrupted
Jamaican accent..."Bwoy ya no who ya'ah s_ wit?!"
A gun in your face and that's all you can come up with?
I'm done talking, backed up and clap em, one in the abdomen
Do me a favor duke, get 2 ice cubes I passed em
Take that ice up, for the nicest MC
And please yo, tell BIG, he's unbelievable
Friend or Foe Biotch!
Code:Honestly that Nas verse is unbelievable. Probably no other MC could duplicate something like that...not even Nas himself. But lets not act like Jay don't have bars of similar caliber.
The vanity of my insanity in due time
Will shine
Like the night seas under the moon
The haunted corners of familiar rooms
You tell me how that gibberish makes any sense?
Any poetically inclined person who is well read could spit those lines...only feeble minded people looking for an identity away from the pack will latch on tothose lyrics....because they are wack.
Point Blank. He is making no sense.
Vanity of insanity will shine like the haunted corners of familiar rooms?....._ please!
The wordplay isn't even praise worthy and doesn't even make sense....he's just babbling like you do.
Originally Posted by abeautifulhaze
The vanity of my insanity in due time
Will shine
Like the night seas under the moon
The haunted corners of familiar rooms