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It is really hard to compare numbers, unfortunate since AR could stack up with anyone IMO. Has the talent to be a top three type guy all time but career still has to continue and finish strong
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Inflated stats in an inflated era. 5-4 postseason record. Calm down with the GOAT talk. kthx
I agree that inflated numbers like yards really dont matter at this point across "era's", even the amount of TD's throw isn't a huge deal, QB's been hitting/near hitting 50 TD's in a season only in the last 10 years. Marino's 2nd year when he went for 48 or whatever it was 30 years ago is insane. I think Marino is much closer to GOAT QB than most who automatically hit up wikipedia and search the "QB SB RINGS" tab. Dan was the "arm talent" guy before there were arm talent guys.[table][tr][td] [/td][td]Passing[/td][/tr][tr][td] [/td][td]Player[/td][td]Gms[/td][td]Att[/td][td]Cmp[/td][td]Pct[/td][td]Yds[/td][td]Int[/td][td]TD[/td][td]TD/Int[/td][td]Rating[/td][/tr][tr][td]1.[/td][td]Aaron Rodgers, 2005-2014[/td][td]106[/td][td]3,335[/td][td]2,197[/td][td]65.9[/td][td]27,522[/td][td]55[/td][td]220[/td][td]4.00[/td][td]106.5[/td][/tr][tr][td]2.[/td][td]Tom Brady, 2000-2014[/td][td]205[/td][td]7,038[/td][td]4,471[/td][td]63.5[/td][td]52,392[/td][td]140[/td][td]387[/td][td]2.76[/td][td]96.1[/td][/tr][tr][td]3.[/td][td]Peyton Manning, 1998-2014[/td][td]252[/td][td]8,928[/td][td]5,850[/td][td]65.5[/td][td]68,701[/td][td]228[/td][td]527[/td][td]2.31[/td][td]97.8[/td][/tr][tr][td]4.[/td][td]Steve Young, 1985-1999[/td][td]169[/td][td]4,149[/td][td]2,667[/td][td]64.3[/td][td]33,124[/td][td]107[/td][td]232[/td][td]2.17[/td][td]96.8[/td][/tr][tr][td]5.[/td][td]Philip Rivers, 2004-2014[/td][td]144[/td][td]4,516[/td][td]2,928[/td][td]64.8[/td][td]35,587[/td][td]114[/td][td]246[/td][td]2.16[/td][td]96.6[/td][/tr][tr][td]6.[/td][td]Tony Romo, 2005-2014[/td][td]141[/td][td]4,099[/td][td]2,660[/td][td]64.9[/td][td]32,283[/td][td]109[/td][td]230[/td][td]2.11[/td][td]96.6[/td][/tr][tr][td]7.[/td][td]Drew Brees, 2001-2014[/td][td]199[/td][td]7,288[/td][td]4,825[/td][td]66.2[/td][td]54,829[/td][td]188[/td][td]390[/td][td]2.07[/td][td]95.7[/td][/tr][tr][td]8.[/td][td]Donovan McNabb, 1999-2011[/td][td]167[/td][td]5,374[/td][td]3,170[/td][td]59.0[/td][td]37,276[/td][td]117[/td][td]234[/td][td]2.00[/td][td]85.6[/td][/tr][tr][td]9.[/td][td]Matt Ryan, 2008-2014[/td][td]106[/td][td]3,753[/td][td]2,399[/td][td]63.9[/td][td]26,899[/td][td]87[/td][td]174[/td][td]2.00[/td][td]91.0[/td][/tr][tr][td]10.[/td][td]Joe Montana, 1979-1994[/td][td]192[/td][td]5,391[/td][td]3,409[/td][td]63.2[/td][td]40,551[/td][td]139[/td][td]273[/td][td]1.96[/td][td]92.3[/td][/tr][/table]
Inflated stats in an inflated era. 5-4 postseason record. Calm down with the GOAT talk. kthx
Sometimes I love you man then I think about how many times you and CP hype up Luck and he has a 1-2 postseason record.
I think Marino is much closer to GOAT QB than most who automatically hit up wikipedia and search the "QB SB RINGS" tab. Dan was the "arm talent" guy before there were arm talent guys.
Where is @CP1708 to make sense of this?Already said it a million times but Marino is the GOAT in my eyes. Pretty much the prototypical QB that could hit every throw on the field.I think Marino is much closer to GOAT QB than most who automatically hit up wikipedia and search the "QB SB RINGS" tab. Dan was the "arm talent" guy before there were arm talent guys.
He's only been starting for 6 years. I think you're right about the discussion about talent.
When it comes to someone at Rodgers level, you have to acknowledge the gap between talent and legacy/performance. Is he the most talented of all time? He's in the discussion. Is he the greatest of all time? Not even close. I doubt he ever will be based on what he has accomplished so far in his career.
Marino too but I'm staying away from that rage train certain posting couples will bring down.
He's only been starting for 6 years. I think you're right about the discussion about talent.
He's top 3 pre snap among current peers and without question the most talented physically, even when comparing him to Brady/Peyton's prime's.
Okay... Again, no one is blind to the fact that numbers now are more "impressive" than 20-40 years ago.
The point I'm making is 2 of the main candidates for "GOAT QB" are Tom and Peyton, yea?
Obviously 7/10 of the top TD:INT guys are from this inflated numbers era and 1 of the other 3 just retired 3 years ago...
Yet, still its not a comparison from 1st to 2nd place.
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I agree that inflated numbers like yards really dont matter at this point across "era's", even the amount of TD's throw isn't a huge deal, QB's been hitting/near hitting 50 TD's in a season only in the last 10 years. Marino's 2nd year when he went for 48 or whatever it was 30 years ago is insane. I think Marino is much closer to GOAT QB than most who automatically hit up wikipedia and search the "QB SB RINGS" tab. Dan was the "arm talent" guy before there were arm talent guys.
Yes, hes gotta win in the playoffs and possibly/probably get another SB, there's no doubt in my mind that he'll keep up the regular season work though.
Speaking of the SB thing though, where does that leave Russell and Trent Dilfer?
BradySB rings don't tell nearly the entire story...but how can they not be part of it? arm, IQ, clutch factor, leadership, ring, and winning percentage...all part of the story. some weigh certain factors more than others. Rodgers still has a bunch of years in the tank. he's on track to be in the discussion.
He's salty because: Alex Smith.I've made similar claims that Chester is making, he's a little harder on Rodgers than I am tho.
Yo Kurt Warner is an interesting one though, obviously his career is too weird to be considered the GOAT, but he had a few of the most stunning single season performances I've ever seen.