so I got outplayed at the poker table yesterday vol i cannot dodge bullets

Originally Posted by sickickz23

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

OP is a horrible poker player, you didn't get outplayed, you just plain suck. What the heck were you doing calling on a flop you COMPLETELY missed with ace-high? Your opponent checks the turn which is a sign that he's giving up, and you check behind him? Then he bets again on the river and you consider calling even though all you had was ace-high?
But the guy who took you should not have shown his cards, what an idiot
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How else was he supposed to win the main pot against the guy who went all in pre-flop?

This reminds me of a time I was playing just for fun with a few of my boys, most of them are horrible, but my friend took the cake for dumbest decision of all time. #1 is short-stacked so he limps in. I have AK so I raise. #3 calls. #1 re-raises a bit more and is all-in, me and #3 call. Flop is 8-8-J. #1 sees the flop and yells out "YES...I WON...and flips over pocket 8s".

There is no sidepot, so I just check, #3 checks. Turn is a blank, I check, my friend checks. River comes, I check, my friend bets half the pot. There was no sidepot, we already knew 100% that #1 had won the pot with his Quad-8s, yet my friend #3 bets the river anyways. I obviously fold, and dude turns over A-10 like it meant something
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Started with 20 and left with 65. Like you're an ESPN regular yourself.
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And please don't compare your story with mine. That is utter stupidity on what he did. Betting on the river and other dude showing his quads after the flop. We all had nothing on the community.

Buddy, my point is that you did not get outplayed, and the hand you described was not unusual...you just completely misplayed it. I'm no pokerpro myself, but from the way you described it, I can tell you are still a very inexperienced player. You made way too many mistakes in that one hand alone.First, you should've either went all in or folded pre-flop after the re-raising had happened. On the flop, why even call with ace-high? Your opponent gaveup on the turn, but you checked behind him. Finally, he bets on the river and you still dont have anything, your only move was to fold, you showed 3 signs ofweaknesses (pre, on the flop, on the turn) to pull off a bluff in this situation.
 
quick question.

do you guys play in poker rooms in casinos or are we talking house games/online?

I've been playing house games for years and I want to transition into casino room poker. Any advice?
 
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Originally Posted by sickickz23

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

OP is a horrible poker player, you didn't get outplayed, you just plain suck. What the heck were you doing calling on a flop you COMPLETELY missed with ace-high? Your opponent checks the turn which is a sign that he's giving up, and you check behind him? Then he bets again on the river and you consider calling even though all you had was ace-high?
But the guy who took you should not have shown his cards, what an idiot
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How else was he supposed to win the main pot against the guy who went all in pre-flop?

This reminds me of a time I was playing just for fun with a few of my boys, most of them are horrible, but my friend took the cake for dumbest decision of all time. #1 is short-stacked so he limps in. I have AK so I raise. #3 calls. #1 re-raises a bit more and is all-in, me and #3 call. Flop is 8-8-J. #1 sees the flop and yells out "YES...I WON...and flips over pocket 8s".

There is no sidepot, so I just check, #3 checks. Turn is a blank, I check, my friend checks. River comes, I check, my friend bets half the pot. There was no sidepot, we already knew 100% that #1 had won the pot with his Quad-8s, yet my friend #3 bets the river anyways. I obviously fold, and dude turns over A-10 like it meant something
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Started with 20 and left with 65. Like you're an ESPN regular yourself.
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And please don't compare your story with mine. That is utter stupidity on what he did. Betting on the river and other dude showing his quads after the flop. We all had nothing on the community.
Buddy, my point is that you did not get outplayed, and the hand you described was not unusual...you just completely misplayed it. I'm no poker pro myself, but from the way you described it, I can tell you are still a very inexperienced player. You made way too many mistakes in that one hand alone. First, you should've either went all in or folded pre-flop after the re-raising had happened. On the flop, why even call with ace-high? Your opponent gave up on the turn, but you checked behind him. Finally, he bets on the river and you still dont have anything, your only move was to fold, you showed 3 signs of weaknesses (pre, on the flop, on the turn) to pull off a bluff in this situation.


Agreed - this is what i was saying in my post here that got ignored... maybe b/c i said it slightly more polite or something he didn't takeoffense to it
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But yeah - this guy sounds like a pretty inexperienced player to me. Overplaying AK like a nub preflop, and then not knowing how to play with it after the flopbecause of smooth calling a 5x reraise with a weak hand. It's just a lot of no'no's in there.
 
I prefer house games. Much better time imo. Lose less, win more. But poker at the casino has lately been the norm for me lately.
 
Originally Posted by doyung9

quick question.

do you guys play in poker rooms in casinos or are we talking house games/online?

I've been playing house games for years and I want to transition into casino room poker. Any advice?
This is my last shot at the OP, I promise but...

Expect to find many players like the OP at casinos
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Players are usually horrible, you can double or triple your buy-in if you play patient and wise. Rely on your reads, keep bluffing to a minimum (bad playerslike to call everything), take advantage of the drunk and elderly.
 
Originally Posted by doyung9

quick question.

do you guys play in poker rooms in casinos or are we talking house games/online?

I've been playing house games for years and I want to transition into casino room poker. Any advice?
i play online, house games, and casinos
at casinos im a lot more patient , i chill try to see how everyone plays
then you attack,

my advice is be patient.

like tevez said you should be able to double/triple ur buy in, be careful for the ones that'll call everything
 
Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Buddy, my point is that you did not get outplayed, and the hand you described was not unusual...you just completely misplayed it. I'm no poker pro myself, but from the way you described it, I can tell you are still a very inexperienced player. You made way too many mistakes in that one hand alone. First, you should've either went all in or folded pre-flop after the re-raising had happened. On the flop, why even call with ace-high? Your opponent gave up on the turn, but you checked behind him. Finally, he bets on the river and you still dont have anything, your only move was to fold, you showed 3 signs of weaknesses (pre, on the flop, on the turn) to pull off a bluff in this situation.
He would've probably called my all-in preflop. I know the guy. I've seen him there before many of times at the casino. He's like aregular there.
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He tells me and backs it up by showing it that he lovesAK to A10 cuz "he loves the outs and possibilities". Moreso if it's suited. So he wasn't going away there(if that's what you wanted himto do. Fold) He was very consistent in showing his AK to A10s but mucking everything else.

Secondly a re-raise on the flop might've been successful thinking of it more. If I betted on the turn after he checked, he's one gutshot away from thestraight. His chip-stack, almost certain call.

Finally yeah, I know I fked that up big time on the river. Don't remind me anymore.
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But yeah - this guy sounds like a pretty inexperienced player to me.
homie we're all inexperienced. If we weren't we'd be on tv.
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Originally Posted by sickickz23

Originally Posted by Carlos Tevez

Buddy, my point is that you did not get outplayed, and the hand you described was not unusual...you just completely misplayed it. I'm no poker pro myself, but from the way you described it, I can tell you are still a very inexperienced player. You made way too many mistakes in that one hand alone. First, you should've either went all in or folded pre-flop after the re-raising had happened. On the flop, why even call with ace-high? Your opponent gave up on the turn, but you checked behind him. Finally, he bets on the river and you still dont have anything, your only move was to fold, you showed 3 signs of weaknesses (pre, on the flop, on the turn) to pull off a bluff in this situation.
He would've probably called my all-in preflop. I know the guy. I've seen him there before many of times at the casino. He's like a regular there.
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He tells me and backs it up by showing it that he loves AK to A10 cuz "he loves the outs and possibilities". Moreso if it's suited. So he wasn't going away there(if that's what you wanted him to do. Fold) He was very consistent in showing his AK to A10s but mucking everything else.

Secondly a re-raise on the flop might've been successful thinking of it more. If I betted on the turn after he checked, he's one gutshot away from the straight. His chip-stack, almost certain call.

Finally yeah, I know I fked that up big time on the river. Don't remind me anymore.
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wait, you're afraid of putting him on a gutshotstraight as a favorite? my man, that's the situation you want every time at the table. Do you understand the object of poker?
 
Originally Posted by obie21

Originally Posted by doyung9

quick question.

do you guys play in poker rooms in casinos or are we talking house games/online?

I've been playing house games for years and I want to transition into casino room poker. Any advice?
i play online, house games, and casinos
at casinos im a lot more patient , i chill try to see how everyone plays
then you attack,

my advice is be patient.

like tevez said you should be able to double/triple ur buy in, be careful for the ones that'll call everything
APPRECIATE IT GUYS.

What kind of table stakes should I start with? $.50-1.00?
 
^ ^no. That was a thought. My first reads were that he had AQ or Pocket Queens. If I put him on a gutshot, I would've betted no coubt. That's moneymaking right there if no King shows up on the river.

We all have bad reads. That was one of em, along with out of position, bad poker moves.
 
Originally Posted by sickickz23

homie we're all inexperienced. If we weren't we'd be on tv.
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How often do you see Phil Gandolf or Dwan on tv sans their 1 appearances
 
What kind of table stakes should I start with? $.50-1.00?
That's good. Watch out for the chasers.
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And the limp-ins. Meaning having a high pocket pair and not raising pre-flop.


I think my weakness is I rely heavily on position sometimes.
 
I think I may head over to the Casino tonight or tomorrow night for a few hours.

Thanks OP
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Originally Posted by LAzianBoi

do any of you guys play at Monrongo or Commerce?

nah, ive heard they have dirty cash games at commerce.

ive always wanted to go, next time im in la
 
Expect to find many players like the OP at casinos
You like to talk a lot at the tables? That's my guess.
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I'm not like those players though. I'm not a veteran but I don't stick with a consistent plan. I mix it up. I could've went over the topanother time, or if it was another player. Who knows?
 
by the way, for the guy asking... good luck finding a .50/1.00 live game in a real casino... 2/4 is the best you'll do most places, you might find a bitlower on a slow day.

But - you could play micro stakes online and get a lot of practice versus even better competition at the .50/1.00 level than you'd find live at a 2/4table.... if you're looking to get better that is.
 
I've been knocked out of games 4 times when I had pocket kings to #+!% hands. The last time it happened I had K of hearts and diamonds and the dude goesall in with A-9 of hearts so I call. It's not an A that comes out, but 4 other hearts, so we both had a flush but he had the nut flush and I lose. Iswear to Jesus pocket Kings are my kryptonite.

- Tical.
 
Originally Posted by sickickz23

^ at the Horseshoe near Chicago, there's two .50/1.00. Rest is 1/2 and up.
nice.. that's pretty cool. They play all hold'em at those tables or they spread any stud games?
 
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