Star Wars Universe Thread: May The 4th Be With You

Did you like The Last Jedi?

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C CP1708 I should've clarified. They were warned not to off Luke between the ending of Episode 4 to 6

THE VILLIANS OF STAR WARS VII. WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY WANT, AND WHO IS PLAYING THEM[/SIZE=5]
The information below consists of what we’ve heard from multiple sources on the same topic. Some might be solid and some might be less than perfect. We’re doing our best with what we have!

Potentially huge spoilers below [/SIZE=5]


For the last few weeks, I have spoken to people in various departments at Pinewood Studios. Obviously, we talked about Star Wars: Episode VII. No one was extremely forthcoming and most asked me not to write about most of what we talked about. That’s cool. I’m honoring that and what I’ve left out has been at their requests. I don’t want anyone to get in trouble and I love hearing stories about the production first hand, so I have no desire to put an end to that privilege. Every source I spoke to was excited about the film being made at Pinewood Studios. It needs to be noted up front that none of these people have read the script. I’m going to say it again for clarity: I have not had communication or spoken to anyone that has held a script in their hands or read it. This rumor is a rumor amongst the people around Pinewood, some on Star Wars VII and some in the vicinity. These people are informed but things are still a mystery to them too.

I had one person turn on location services and send me a photo from their vehicle and they were exactly where they should have been. Each of these sources has proven themselves to be related to the production in ways I will never divulge.

Here’s the gist: The bad guys in Star Wars: Episode VII are being called “Jedi Hunters” by people working on and around the film. These are scary individuals, dressed in black, some helmeted, that hunt Jedi for the Empire.



Further explanations: When I first heard about the “Jedi Hunters,” I thought it sounded neat. Then I heard it again and again. So I started to really take it seriously in the last few days. Where there’s smoke, there’s often fire. It occurred to me these sound exactly like the Inquisitor in Star Wars Rebels. The original person to bring up “Jedi Hunters” had no idea what Star Wars Rebels was all about. I filled this person in and they said it sounded exactly like what they’re filming for Star Wars: Episode VII.

It should be noted that none of the sources heard the term “Inquisitor.” They just heard “Jedi Hunters” as they were reffered to on and around the sets in various departments. These hunters use lightsabers. So it kind of becomes a game of semantics, perhaps. But lets make it clear, no single source ever said “Inquisitor.” They all said the premise of the Inquisitor from Star Wars Rebels sounds identical to what is in the film itself. One said they had the impression the Jedi were fighting this group for a very long time.

A third source is adamant that David Oyelowo is voicing one of the three villains in the film. That lines up with what Jedi News heard a while back. Maybe it is old information, I have no idea. I have often asked myself if Jedi News’ rumor is being talked about on set by some chance. Is there the possibility of a feedback loop so to speak? Perhaps, but either way, we’re hearing Oyelowo is involved.

Another source says Lupita Nyong’o, Adam Driver, and David Oyelowo are making up the cast of villains in the film and they’re “Jedi Hunters.” They also said Lupita might wear “yellow contact lenses” in the film as she was seen trying them out and walking around with them some time ago to try them out.

The villains are said to be characterized by black and chrome with troopers in similar black and chrome uniforms. They’re very imperial, but very new. My sense is these guys are like General Grievous’ Magna Guards from Revenge of the Sith (my analogy not from a source).

Supposedly the “Jedi Hunters” or Inquisitors (from the sound of things) are the reason there is no New Republic after Return of the Jedi. That’s right, they’re saying there is no New Republic. Source #2 claims to have been on set for a sequence in which we learn the Jedi Hunters worship the Sith and want to resurrect them. Their mandate was to protect the Sith at all costs and insure their survival.

This source also believes Luke Skywalker has been fighting to stop this for the last thirty years of his life, but he is outnumbered, tired, and in need of help.
The bad guys have a goal: The resurrection of the Sith and it “sounds like it happens in the next film” meaning Episode VIII and “I guess they kill him (said resurrected Sith) in IX.”

No one could or would answer if the Inquisitor from Star Wars Rebels was in Star Wars: Episode VII.

Informed Speculation:
These “Jedi Hunters” might explain why potential family members are hidden away on strange places like Tatooine.

Everything is pointing towards Darth Sidious starting an army of Force Users, as we saw in The Clone Wars: Children of the Force. These “Jedi Hunters” can never become Sith, but they’re powerful. Someone like Luke Skywalker could really only challenge the Sith when using the dark side. So these Inquisitors or “Jedi Hunters” are formidable foes for Luke Skywalker and the future Jedi that follow his teachings.

Presumably, they never go after Luke Skywalker during the original trilogy era because Darth Vader has deemed him off limits, the Sith have plans for him. Upon the death of Darth Vader and the Emperor, the Inquisitors become stewards of the Emperor’s vision for order and power via imperialism. Darth Sidious apparently left these cult members with a path should he ever parish or be betrayed that would resurrect himself or some Sith to continue the legacy of the Sith. Perhaps Moraband is the key?

The moment Luke Skywalker returned to Endor in Return of the Jedi, the Inquisitors became the ultimate evil power in the universe. Naturally, they hunted him for revenge because if the Jedi ever returned to defending the galaxy, the Inquisitors would be in peril.

My guess is this is what our post-Return of the Jedi Expanded Universe might look like. If accurate, it sounds exciting and fresh.




Ehhhh

Sounds ok, but also sounds like a lot of wasted effort. A better idea was already mapped out, but whatever.

If we are 30 years from Jedi, and Luke doesn't have the Jedi up and running full speed, this is a waste of time. If they just have a handful of Jedi apprentices helping him, rather than a fully rebuilt Jedi Order, this is all bull ****.
 
I would've gone a different way with the story myself, but I could role with this. Rebels and The Clone Wars have definitely set up this kind of Story.
 
I'm not sure I follow this "Jedi Hunters can never be Sith". That part, isn't really sitting well with me. If they are force sensitive, and tough enough for Luke to deal with, then how the hell they can't be Sith? :lol :lol

That seems a little reachy to me. But they at least sound cool.
 
I'm not sure I follow this "Jedi Hunters can never be Sith". That part, isn't really sitting well with me. If they are force sensitive, and tough enough for Luke to deal with, then how the hell they can't be Sith? :lol :lol

That seems a little reachy to me. But they at least sound cool.

Maybe they're clones and clones can't be sith?...
 
Maybe they're clones and clones can't be sith?...

Force Sensitive Clones?

It might work, I can see the idea, but it's still reachy. But if they word it right, I might be able to roll with it.
 
I'm not sure I follow this "Jedi Hunters can never be Sith". That part, isn't really sitting well with me. If they are force sensitive, and tough enough for Luke to deal with, then how the hell they can't be Sith? :lol :lol

That seems a little reachy to me. But they at least sound cool.

Savage Opress worked pretty well in TCW. I can buy there being a group of similar sith-force users by the time Luke defeats the Emperor.
 
I just think that they can't be Sith because Vader and Sidious are gome, there's no one to teach them how to be real Sith. The Clone Wars cartoon touched on this alot. Sidious even told Maul he was no longer a Sith. Certain stipulations must be met to be true Sith Lords.
 
I just think that they can't be Sith because Vader and Sidious are gome, there's no one to teach them how to be real Sith. The Clone Wars cartoon touched on this alot. Sidious even told Maul he was no longer a Sith. Certain stipulations must be met to be true Sith Lords.

I'm down with that... Hopefully they resurrect Sidious since can be the master...
 
"There can only be two Sith."

One of the many interesting things I learned from watching the Clone Wars. Really enjoyed the cartoon TBH. That episode where Darth Maul comes back would've scared me as a kid though. Love how they changed the intro letters from yellow to red for that one episode. Like, warning this is the episode where you see your favorite villain again.

When I first started watching I got like 5 episodes in then googled, "when does Darth Maul appear in Clone Wars cartoon." Jumped right to that episode I think it was like season 4 episode 21 and then watched until the end and went back to where I left off in beginning.

I feel like the story line was all over the place chronologically any way though. Was really confusing figuring out a time line at points.
 
While we're kinda talking about the Clone Wars :lol I'd highly advise anyone interested in Episode VII to at least watch the final 3 episodes of the show, the Yoda arc. It introduces a lot of elements that I think were obviously brought up for the sequel trilogy.
It highly hints at Luke being the chosen one, and depending on your point of view, the entire arc points to Yoda having a big part in the sequel trilogy.

A post on the force.net forums...
When one Priestess ("Sadness") is questioning why Yoda is deserving of immortality, the reply of another Priestess ("Serenity") is quite telling: "He [Yoda] is to teach one that will save the universe from a great imbalance. For this, the Great Gift will be his."

All of this is later reinforced when Serenity informs Yoda that "there is another Skywalker" (followed by the sound of a crying baby).

So Luke "saves the universe" from a "great imbalance." This much seems clear. But does this make Luke the Chosen One?

Taking all of this, coupled with Yoda's admission in Episode III that the Prophesy of the Chosen One may have been "misread," a strong case could theoretically be made for Luke being the "real" Chosen One, but nothing has ever gone as far as literally proclaiming it to be so.
Makes sense
 
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Yeah, those Yoda episodes were pretty dope. Luke and the gang aside, I'm really anticipating what kind of "Troopers" they use for this new trilogy and if they'll try to thrown in any nods to TCW by mentioning any of the more popular Clones like Rex or something.
 
Lucasfilm just announced this toy to be released at Comic con. It doesn't have any episode or TV show attached to it atm.

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They've been coming out with Shadow Stormtroopers for years now. I guess this was the best they could do since it's "cheap" to put out and they can't really attach anything to it. Ima need that Jabba the Hutt exclusive though if any of you guys wanna be nice :D
 
Surprised I didn't know that :lol Still matches the Black/chrome suited Storm Troopers/Sith that's being reported my multiple sites now. Alot of sources have said they're going back to alot of the original trilogy concept art for the look and feel of these movies.
 
Werent shadow storm troopers similar to the dudes flying with vader in the flight battle in a new hope? Or in one of the og trilogy movies?
 
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Werent shadow storm troopers similar to the dudes flying with vader in the flight battle in a new hope? Or in one of the og trilogy movies?

Been awhile since I watched ep4, but I think those were just the normal Imperial pilot uniforms that were all black.
 
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