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Awww man why did i watch that.
TERMINATOR THREAD - T2 turns 30 July 3
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I didn't know that info.
The tv show was pretty good. I wish it would've continued but fox are dumb as hell when it involves one hour drama shows.
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damn that movie looks cheeks. with that said, looking forward to streaming it for free.
lol at Paramount straight dropping spoiler bombs on its own fans.
lol at Paramount straight dropping spoiler bombs on its own fans.
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Forget the movie exists.
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The OG director is DONE with terminator. Since then nothing but trash has released
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still gonna watch the hell out of this because its terminator, but this movie looks terrible
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Same here, but for free of course.
mikeycorleone
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Yup should of left that out. Still interested in seeing what happens. Would be cool to have some cameos at least.
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It was entertaining for what it was. Same with #3.
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Cameron made a masterpiece with T2. He dropped the mic when he was done. His versions of the next 2 would've been better than what released.
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She just comes off so forced the with the lines.
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Remember salvations trailer? Also spoiled that Marcus was a robot the whole time
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Yeah Linda really felt the series should've stopped after T2. She's stated a few times. They wanted her for T3 but she wasn't feeling it. She did lend her voice though.
I thought T3 was really good. As far as continuation I felt the story was well done. The ending left me anticipating the war against the machines. Only to be let down by Salvation
. It was entertaining but did nothing to keep the series moving forward. Marcus's story overshadowed John's. Kind of felt like they just threw the movie out there because the two stars were hot at the moment. Bale and the Dark Knight, and Worthington coming off a few Sci-fi flicks, which includes Avatar.
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T2 was so awesome and a ton of classic scenes and phrases.
Terminator arriving
The il be back
Sarah escape scene
Mall scene
Motorcycle scene
Choppa scene
Ripping off his flesh
Sarah going rogue
T1000 handling T800
Thumbs up
And that movie tied up everything...
Only for T3 the come in and say, judgement day is inevitable... The hell..
Terminator arriving
The il be back
Sarah escape scene
Mall scene
Motorcycle scene
Choppa scene
Ripping off his flesh
Sarah going rogue
T1000 handling T800
Thumbs up
And that movie tied up everything...
Only for T3 the come in and say, judgement day is inevitable... The hell..
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I just read the synopsis for this movie on Wikipedia.
This is why time travel should only be used very sparingly in fiction. This plot is ******* ridiculous.
The CG/makeup they used to make young Ahnold is dope tho
This is why time travel should only be used very sparingly in fiction. This plot is ******* ridiculous.
The CG/makeup they used to make young Ahnold is dope tho
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I'm not going to read the synopsis, but here's a good piece on time travel in the Terminator world (and the chaos of time travel in general):
Who is John Connor's father?
In The Terminator, Skynet is losing the war against the human resistance — so it decides to send a killer robot disguised as an Austrian bodybuilder back in time, to kill the mother of the resistance leader before she can give birth. The robot fails, and in fact the freedom fighter who goes back in time to defeat the robot winds up becoming the father of the resistance leader. Loop closed, man! (Imagine that last bit said in a Bill Paxton voice.)
So it would seem that the Terminator universe follows schema #2 for time travel — you can go back, but you always went back, and nothing will have changed as a result of your travel. Except that, in order to justify further Terminator outings, the rules had to change somewhat. For one thing, Skynet wouldn't bother to keep sending robots back if all it was doing was getting resistance fighters laid. For another, the possibility of changing history — including preventing Skynet's creation — is what raises the stakes in Terminator 2. By the time you get Terminator 3, the date of Judgment Day has changed, and it's clear new timelines are being created every time someone goes back.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles plays with this notion further, implying that the future is a moving target — the future that Derek Reese came from is not the same one that Jesse Flores came from. They remember some key events from the future very differently, and John Connor is a very different person in Jesse's future than in Derek's.
So is Kyle Reese the original father of John Connor? Or was there a timeline in which nobody traveled back in time, and someone else hooked up with Sarah Connor? We asked Sarah Connor Chronicles creator Josh Friedman a few years ago, and he said it was at least possible there was a "pre-Kyle Johnfather" — but then you have a radically different timeline in which Sarah Connor doesn't train her son to be the resistance leader, he just figures it out on his own.
In any case, the Terminator series is Exhibit A for why messy time travel opens up more possibilities than "neat" time travel. The story of John Connor sending his own father back in time to become his father is a cute idea, but it doesn't open up a lot of possibilities beyond that one notion. It's a curio. It's a fancy clockwork sculpture rather than a wild adventure.
In The Terminator, Skynet is losing the war against the human resistance — so it decides to send a killer robot disguised as an Austrian bodybuilder back in time, to kill the mother of the resistance leader before she can give birth. The robot fails, and in fact the freedom fighter who goes back in time to defeat the robot winds up becoming the father of the resistance leader. Loop closed, man! (Imagine that last bit said in a Bill Paxton voice.)
So it would seem that the Terminator universe follows schema #2 for time travel — you can go back, but you always went back, and nothing will have changed as a result of your travel. Except that, in order to justify further Terminator outings, the rules had to change somewhat. For one thing, Skynet wouldn't bother to keep sending robots back if all it was doing was getting resistance fighters laid. For another, the possibility of changing history — including preventing Skynet's creation — is what raises the stakes in Terminator 2. By the time you get Terminator 3, the date of Judgment Day has changed, and it's clear new timelines are being created every time someone goes back.
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles plays with this notion further, implying that the future is a moving target — the future that Derek Reese came from is not the same one that Jesse Flores came from. They remember some key events from the future very differently, and John Connor is a very different person in Jesse's future than in Derek's.
So is Kyle Reese the original father of John Connor? Or was there a timeline in which nobody traveled back in time, and someone else hooked up with Sarah Connor? We asked Sarah Connor Chronicles creator Josh Friedman a few years ago, and he said it was at least possible there was a "pre-Kyle Johnfather" — but then you have a radically different timeline in which Sarah Connor doesn't train her son to be the resistance leader, he just figures it out on his own.
In any case, the Terminator series is Exhibit A for why messy time travel opens up more possibilities than "neat" time travel. The story of John Connor sending his own father back in time to become his father is a cute idea, but it doesn't open up a lot of possibilities beyond that one notion. It's a curio. It's a fancy clockwork sculpture rather than a wild adventure.
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The use of time travel is iffy, but it's more so how you end the story. If you're seeking a tight wrapped gift of a conclusion just stop. It's best to conclude with an open ending. T2 did that perfectly.
T3 just made sure no other terminator movie will be worth a damn because according to that movie everything WILL happen anyway. This new movie is just double backing for no reason. They're essentially wanting to undo what they ended up doing the first time they tried to undo things
T3 just made sure no other terminator movie will be worth a damn because according to that movie everything WILL happen anyway. This new movie is just double backing for no reason. They're essentially wanting to undo what they ended up doing the first time they tried to undo things
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I did like this theory (not a serious one, by the way): The real twist is Skynet won the war and replaced all humans with terminators, but then the file that was stored in became corrupted, so it forgot, so terminators have been at war with terminators for 600 years.
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So tempted to see the trailer lol, gonna see this anyways since ive seen all of the others.
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I wonder what James Cameron thinks about this twist. He is still making bank off the original two and his other work since but it has got to bother him a little right?
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To me that these ain't canon.
Ended after T2. Cameron would of done serious business with a third one.
Ended after T2. Cameron would of done serious business with a third one.
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Cameron ain't no dummy. T1 and 2 are classics and can't be outdone. He's smart to leave it be. T3 was like a parody/remake of T2. T4, I don't even know what to say about that garbage. I'll pretend there's only 3 terminator films. T4 looks like another remake of T2 with the usual added twists. That Sarah Connor looks like an 11 year old.
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No love for the Sarah Connor Chronicles? I remember it was a pretty damn good show and was really hitting it's stride when it was canned.
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Show sucked. There's a reason it got canceled and it ain't cus it was good
