quik1987
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Can people just invent another internet that can't be policed? Serious question.
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Originally Posted by ElCatfisho
Nothing like turning millions of piraters into 'Challenge Accepted' mode
no mixtapes arent copyrighted work they are supposed to be freeOriginally Posted by 160jordansdeep
so if rick ross or any other rapper puts out a mixtape not a album
lets face it most music being downloaded is rap
its illegal to download that mixtape after july 12 ?
4318MichaelJohnson4318 wrote:
You still have yet to prove me that I would of gave artist more money by buying cds than going to their show. YOU CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE MUSIC BUSINESS. NO ARTIST is getting more than 2 dollars a cd (And thats a STRETCH), TOUR REVENUES AND MERCHANDISE MAKE WAY MORE. Hell ARTIST ARE GIVING MUSIC FOR FREE THESE DAYS.Originally Posted by seasoned vet
Originally Posted by Peep Game
That's the only part you're wrong about, unless by "average rapper" you mean people like Big Noyd and the like --- guys who have never been on the radio, rarely had videos,
and barely had promotion in general. When buying cds was the norm, damn near everybody was going platinum and gold. Memphis Bleek of all people has 4 gold albums.
Yung Joc has one. Chingy has like 4-5 million total sales. Chingy. Chingy. Every major rapper out of Houston was going platinum around time time. Everything came to a stop
though in late 2006, to the point where unless you were Jay, Em, or Kanye, you don't move a damn thing.
....it wont matter. these dudes will nit pick, and point out every single difference they can to justify stealing music over buying it.
"oh i stole your music, but i paid for your concert and a few tshirts so we good"
"i stole your music, but you werent going platinum anyway"
"i stole your music, but i promise to tell everyone i know about how good it is, i got you my dude, i got you *fist bump*"
...thing is though. if your stance is im going to steal it anyway, and i dont care about the quality of music produced, thats one thing.
...but to steal it, and then expect them to still pump out quality product without conpensation is crazy.
all you guys are just defending the OLD system of the music industry which basically is just supporting these shady labels. I am 100% against record label in this current music environment.
Lets be honest how many of you guys actually post in the music forum outside of Cartune (who ironically gives out free music)
...no one is trying to prove to you or even saying artists recieve more money through cd sales than shows. you are mostly correct when you say that no artist is getting more than 2 dollars a cd.
....however everything you said is a moot point and has NOTHING to do with what i was saying.
...you stance is "the artist only recieves no more than $2, and ill make that up in other areas to the artist". okay the same can be said about movie theaters. everyone knows movie theaters make their money off of concessions, and hardly make anything off of ticket sales. correct?
.....so does that give you an excuse to walk into a theater, steal a movie, but make up for it buying hot dogs and popcorn? if you think so, try it out. walk into a theater, steal a movie, and when you get caught, try explaining that to the manager......how about explaining it to the polic officer when they get there too. i mean since you bought so much from the concession stand that shoul totally make up for the movie you stole right? ........right?
...if im selling something i want you to pay for what you took. not steal something, and pay for something else to make up for it. I WANT MY $2, period! if what you bought to make up for your theft doesnt include the $2 YOU STOLE then we're going to have a problem.
4318MichaelJohnson4318 wrote:
YOU CLEARLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE MUSIC BUSINESS. NO ARTIST is getting more than 2 dollars a cd (And thats a STRETCH), TOUR REVENUES AND MERCHANDISE MAKE WAY MORE. Hell ARTIST ARE GIVING MUSIC FOR FREE THESE DAYS.
.....you're right $2 is nothing. but:
$2 X 1,000,000 copies = $2,000,000
$2 X 500,000 copies = $1,000,000
$2 X 100,000 copies = $200,000
and so on and so forth, so if you take 100,000 people with the same mindset as you, that artist just lost out on $200,000
@ you accusing someone of not understanding the music business when you lack basic multiplication skills
...as if artists getting peanuts for their work is some trade secret or something
4318MichaelJohnson4318 wrote:
all you guys are just defending the OLD system of the music industry which basically is just supporting these shady labels. I am 100% against record label in this current music environment.
Lets be honest how many of you guys actually post in the music forum outside of Cartune (who ironically gives out free music)
...no one is defending any old system other than to pay for what you use. retail cd sales is the means by which certain artists choose to be compensated for their work. its unfair to the artist for the consumer to decide not to use it and opt for just stealing it instead.
....if an artist chooses to host his music on Bandcamp, by all means goto Bandcamp and buy it
....if an artist chooses to sell his cd on the corner, by all means buy it on the corner
....if an artist chooses to GIVE his music away on the net, then download it for free
......NO ONE is defending any one system over the other. but its not up to the consumer to just steal the music because they dont like the means by which the artist gets compensated.
....for example:
4318MichaelJohnson4318 wrote:
so are you saying small acts like Odd Future, Asap Rocky, The Weeknd, Wiz Khalifa, Chip The Ripper, etc basically the new generation of artist arent making money? You keep bringing up record sales but that is so irrelevent to rap music right now most artist are GIVING AWAY music no one is even stealing.
- those artists are using alternative means to get compensated, and its working out well for them.
......GIVING AWAY is one thing, but were not talking about promotional products that are being given away are we?
.....your answer is right in front of your face, you're just too selfish to understand it.
Originally Posted by JumpmanFromDaBay
Seasoned Vet- You have to much time on your hands
Originally Posted by BrotherForReal
you're not method man so quit typing up essays. We get it...you hate people who download. Now move on.