The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- Cannonier, Imavov, Reyes, Rosas on NOW

[champcruthik]

Champ's 2014 Light Heavyweight (205) Rankings:

1) Jon Jones
2) Alexander Gustafsson
3) Rashad Evans
4) Daniel Cormier
5) Glover Teixeira
6) Phil Davis
7) Jimi Manuwa
Shogun Rua
9) Little Nog
10) Ryan Bader

Honorable Mention:
Thiago Silva
Dan Henderson

 

[champcruthik]

Champ's 2014 Heavyweight Rankings:

1) Cain Velasquez
2) Junior dos Santos
3) Travis Browne
4) Fabricio Werdum
5) Josh Barnett
6) Mark Hunt
7) Big Foot Silva
Roy Nelson
9) Stipe Miocic
10) Alistair Overeem

Honorable Mention:
Stefan Struve
Gabriel Gonzaga

 

[RustyShackleford]

Champ's 2014 Heavyweight Rankings:

1) Cain Velasquez
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2) Junior dos Santos
3) Travis Browne
4) Fabricio Werdum
5) Josh Barnett
6) Mark Hunt
7) Big Foot Silva
Roy Nelson
9) Stipe Miocic
10) Alistair Overeem

Honorable Mention:
Stefan Struve
Gabriel Gonzaga

How I see the HW division

 

[champcruthik]

How I see the HW division

Pretty much, Rusty. I'm not sure Browne wins a single round against Cain. Could even foresee a late finish for Velasquez. Damn his wife is fine.

 

[deezyvsop2]

Pretty much, Rusty. I'm not sure Browne wins a single round against Cain. Could even foresee a late finish for Velasquez. Damn his wife is fine.

After what Browne did to Barnett when he went for a TD?

I would have said the same thing before that fight, but after watching those elbows, if Cain doesn't take him down with authority, he probably won't take him down at all.

The victory over Overeem didn't say much, I think AO is done off whatever he was on for the Brock fight.  He couldn't finish Silva and he couldn't finish Browne.  But the win over Barnett is a statement.  Still think Cain would win, but that's a dangerous fight for him.

 

[deezyvsop2]

Shin bone bruh. His leg looked like a hockey stick. I wouldn't recommend the view

I like the MJ vs Nate match up. Johnson is very mobile and has good enough hands to make it interesting.

Nate would have to drop him to hit a sub though cause i don't see any grappling being involved if that fight happened.

I wouldn't rec it either.  More like noodle than hockey stick, it was the worst injury I've ever seen in sports, although I know there have been worse - I just haven't seen them.

Johnson vs. Diaz would be a great fight, but I'm not sure Johnson is ready for/deserves Diaz.  He's maybe one more fight away from that match up.  I think he could definitely win, but very few guys are going to outbox Nate Diaz.  Johnson clearly has the speed and power to make it interesting though.

 

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Heavyweight is just too unpredictable. 1 punch is all it takes. I do believe that JDS punch was 1 in a 1,000 though.

 

[RustyShackleford]

How I see the HW division

Pretty much, Rusty. I'm not sure Browne wins a single round against Cain. Could even foresee a late finish for Velasquez. Damn his wife is fine.

I am convince her yambs secrete EPO in da juices .

Only logical explanation for Cains cardio

-Dana got a real problem at HW though. I can see Cain and Junior destroying dudes for the whole of 2014 and forcing a 4th fight no one wants to really see.

155 is gonna be wild in 2014 :x

 

[champcruthik]

I'd rather see Cain/JDS 4 than someone less deserving for the sake of a new matchup.

 

[champcruthik]

Like Roy Nelson or fan favorite, Based Hunto.

Rumor Lesnar was in Vegas negotiating with UFC brass on a comeback.

 

[deezyvsop2]

Cain/JDS 4 has got to be a loooong way off from happening.

Their trilogy answered all of the questions.  It broke the tie, it was almost an exact replay of their second fight except that Cain finished him this time.

JDS is like Urijah Faber or Joseph Benavidez or Frankie Edgar.  Clearly better than everyone else, but not good enough to beat the champ.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Champ's 2014 Light Heavyweight (205) Rankings:

1) Jon Jones
2) Alexander Gustafsson
3) Rashad Evans
4) Daniel Cormier
5) Glover Teixeira
6) Phil Davis
7) Jimi Manuwa

Shogun Rua
9) Little Nog
10) Ryan Bader

Honorable Mention:
Thiago Silva
Dan Henderson

Looking forward to Gus and Manuwa. What a treat we are in for.

Should Gus win and Cormier beat Evans, I wonder what Dana will do for the number one contender.

As far as the heavy's go, it's tough to say Browne wouldn't win a round against Cain. It's tough for me to say anyone will dethrone Cain for a while, but Browne seems hungry man, he seems motivated and highly driven. Those three things combined with his skill set and size make him a very dangerous man. Like I said before though, I'd favor JDS over Browne. Doesn't mean Browne isn't up there but he has to prove it to me before I put him in that tier.

 

[champcruthik]

Could be determined by the result. Meaning if Gus KO's Poster Boy and DC decisions Shad, the choice is obvious. Both decision or both KO, who knows. I have a preference for Gus. I think it's deserved after Bones 1.

 

[deezyvsop2]

I'm not sold that Cormier makes that weight cut just yet.

I think he can definitely make the weight, but keeping his effectiveness while doing so is another story.  He better be on top of that going into it with Evans because Evans looked fantastic against Sonnen.

 

[smedroc]

Cain adopted the wall n brawl style for Junior and that would work just aswel with Travis imo.

The head has got to be at hip level or below for Travis to get those elbows off so Cain would just need to keep his head above above his waist.


If Gus wins the rematch is happening regardless of what DC does to Rashad.

 

[maicolkickhead]

cain would destroyed brown, i dont know how this is even in question.

 

[BtownKj]

Rumor Lesnar was in Vegas negotiating with UFC brass on a comeback.

also rumored that it was just a bargaining tactic to get a better contract with WWE

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

cain would destroyed brown, i dont know how this is even in question.

Damb, Browne might be serving up some crow should he get past Werdum.

 

[champcruthik]

also rumored that it was just a bargaining tactic to get a better contract with WWE

The more likely explanation. I don't see a Lesnar comeback after diverticulosis.

 

[ballatician]

I heard rumors about a Lesnar vs Fedor as a one match deal

 

[champcruthik]

I heard rumors about a Lesnar vs Fedor as a one match deal

Publicity stunt or leverage in negotiations.

http://msn.foxsports.com/ufc/story/...-after-appearance-in-the-wwe-on-monday-010114

 

[deezyvsop2]

Whether Cain would maul Browne or not, the fight needs to happen.

Cain has fought the same two guys for his past five fights.  Werdum or Browne would make for a refreshing matchup, and I'd rather see Browne get a shot.

 

[tiger energy]

Am I right that cain can only fight on the 2nd half of 2014 due to his recent surgery?

I can sense the excitement for the ufc event in a few hours hahaha. Honestly, if the ufc wants to expand to asia, they should at least book a fighter that casual fans know or have heard about.

 

[captainjackson]

fights start in a couple hours. UFC didn't really even try to promote this card since it's not being shown on TV.

 

[champcruthik]

War Ace, Mr. Perfect, and Kawajiri.