THE OFFICIAL 2024 - 2025 DALLAS COWBOYS SEASON THREAD || 4-7 Next Game 11/28 vs. Giants Vol. Thanksgiving

[chiacrack]

He's my favorite sports player in history. Period. Ever since I saw dude beasting in college and then him breaking down when he was drafted I've been convinced. Just watching Dez gets me hype.

draft night 2010 was probably one of my favorite moments in sports history, that was a sick draft class and a lot of teams came out well, but watching him fall to 24 and get drafted by us was awesome to watch, I ordered my jersey the very next day when they announced he would be wearing 88, I thought he was going to wear 81 but 88 has the history

 

[mr s j king]

Romo, Witten and Allen are not GREAT leaders.
They are guys that can help with team morale.
But they aren't considered great leaders.
When you have grown men with families, millions of dollars, and whatever else comes with the territory; it takes a special type of individual to lead them to greatness.
Hopefully someone on this team has the intangibles to be that guy.

 

[ackdaquick]

Romo, Witten and Allen are not GREAT leaders.
They are guys that can help with team morale.
But they aren't considered great leaders.
When you have grown men with families, millions of dollars, and whatever else comes with the territory; it takes a special type of individual to lead them to greatness.
Hopefully someone on this team has the intangibles to be that guy.

Who are some "Great" leaders active on other teams today?

 

[mr s j king]

Who are some "Great" leaders active on other teams today?

The obvious are Brees, Brady, Eli, Peyton, Woodson, Ed Reed, Rodgers, Matthews, and now Flacco.
Those guys lead their entire organizations.
When they speak everyone listens, including the owners.
Guys like Adrian Peterson, Patrick Willis, JJ Watt, and Steve Smith are "great" leaders they just don't have the hardware.

 

[ackdaquick]

If that is the list of great leaders then imo Witten and Romo dont look out of place on there. What more are those guys doing and/or less are Romo and Witten doing?

 

[blackboyfly]

He's my favorite sports player in history. Period. Ever since I saw dude beasting in college and then him breaking down when he was drafted I've been convinced. Just watching Dez gets me hype.

draft night 2010 was probably one of my favorite moments in sports history, that was a sick draft class and a lot of teams came out well, but watching him fall to 24 and get drafted by us was awesome to watch, I ordered my jersey the very next day when they announced he would be wearing 88, I thought he was going to wear 81 but 88 has the history

[Video]

Still gets me. Dude didn't want to just make the NFL, he wanted to be a COWBOY. That reality of playing for his favorite team will drive him for years to come.

 

[slicknick951]

If that is the list of great leaders then imo Witten and Romo dont look out of place on there. What more are those guys doing and/or less are Romo and Witten doing?

I think romo is making strides in the right direction.

Witten just seems like he is out there on his own. I would like to see him talk to the oline when they go offsides or miss an assignment.

Romo pulled williams to the side after that interception when years ago he would just act like nothing happened

 

[mr s j king]

If that is the list of great leaders then imo Witten and Romo dont look out of place on there. What more are those guys doing and/or less are Romo and Witten doing?

When is the last time Romo or Witten were mic'ed up and they said something and you were like "that's what I'm talking about! Get them boys crunk Romo, or get'em fired up Witten!"
I'm not knocking them, just don't think they are that guy.
As a Cowboys fan it pains me to admit, but Romo hasn't "recovered" from blowing it in the playoffs back to back years in '06 and '07.
A lot of the criticism he receives is based on his play, not people's opinion.
Can't consider him a "great" leader until he puts it all together and wins the big game.
Danny White led the Cowboys to the playoffs and NFC Championship game, and he gets no love in this city.

 

[chiacrack]

[Video]

Still gets me. Dude didn't want to just make the NFL, he wanted to be a COWBOY. That reality of playing for his favorite team will drive him for years to come.

Love watching that

I disagree, Romo is always involved and going over things with the OL and WRs. Watch him mic'd up its awesome.

 

[chiacrack]

He was mic'd up for the saints game last year, Giants in 2010 and Bucs in 2009 and each game I was very impressed with what he said.

 

[mr s j king]

I think romo is making strides in the right direction.

Witten just seems like he is out there on his own. I would like to see him talk to the oline when they go offsides or miss an assignment.

Romo pulled williams to the side after that interception when years ago he would just act like nothing happened

Witten can't say anything to anybody about false starts and holding because he's one of the worst on the team.
Like Jerry said the window of opportunity is getting smaller.
Romo has to get it done NOW.
If he has greatness in him, it's time to show it.
Stats don't mean jack down here, we like trophies

 

[ackdaquick]

He was mic'd up for the saints game last year, Giants in 2010 and Bucs in 2009 and each game I was very impressed with what he said.

This. there was a game from last year that he was mic'd and I was off-guard on how involved, vocal, and challenging he was with his teamates. I dont remember what game it was, if I can find it ill post it, but i never said they were great. Based on that list above leaders I dont understand why you would exclude them from that list.

 

[chiacrack]

This. there was a game from last year that he was mic'd and I was off-guard on how involved, vocal, and challenging he was with his teamates. I dont remember what game it was, if I can find it ill post it, but i never said they were great. Based on that list above leaders I dont understand why you would exclude them from that list.

Exactly he's so involved and has a great understanding of the game.

I'm 100 percent positive it was the Saints game, if I'm wrong I'd be shocked

 

[alsdaman30]

Dez is definitely someone to get the players fired up. If you have seen enough of him you know he brings that competetive fire to the practices, meetings, and definitely games. One or two more years he will be a solidified leader. Witten is pretty vocal and so is Romo. Will Allen brings good leadership with him too. Oh and keep Jerry up in the box with his man-slave unless its the Superbowl. Last thing you would want is a Ratliff-esque situation happening in front of the world.

IMO Intangible stuff has very little to do with what happens on the field. Its personnel and execution. I've been saying this for a few years, if they aren't good in the trenches on both sides of the ball you won't win in this league period. When they get good because I think they're on the right track with this OL then these general discussions about leadership and heart will stop because if you win you must have it and if you lose then you must don't.

 

[mr s j king]

This. there was a game from last year that he was mic'd and I was off-guard on how involved, vocal, and challenging he was with his teamates. I dont remember what game it was, if I can find it ill post it, but i never said they were great. Based on that list above leaders I dont understand why you would exclude them from that list.

I exclude them because they have yet to come thru in the time of need on the biggest stages.
I do think Romo can lead us to the Super Bowl.
But then the question becomes can he do enough to win it once he gets there.

 

[ackdaquick]

IMO Intangible stuff has very little to do with what happens on the field. Its personnel and execution. I've been saying this for a few years, if they aren't good in the trenches on both sides of the ball you won't win in this league period. When they get good because I think they're on the right track with this OL then these general discussions about leadership and heart will stop because if you win you must have it and if you lose then you must don't.

Ive said the same, we have to get better in the trenches, and right now if there was a weakness on either side of the ball that is where the finger pointing would start.

I wouldnt say this guy is a great leader but he could be my QB......

sound quality not the best

 

[airjordan jb23]

romo, witten, allen, & dez are all good leaders for this team imo... especially dez, i love the emotion he's always showing. that's what this team needs & when we're looking for a comeback down in the 4th i feel like he can help spark things up. & i agree, i've been impressed every time romo has been mic'd up in the past.

that dez draft video never gets old either

KC has me a little uneasy tomorrow... last years 2nd game is still fresh in my mind & with our schedule getting tougher as the season goes on, we need to take advantage of these winnable games at the start. if we get off to a great start, going into the rough part of our schedule could be with a lot more needed confidence.

 

[alsdaman30]

romo, witten, allen, & dez are all good leaders for this team imo... especially dez, i love the emotion he's always showing. that's what this team needs & when we're looking for a comeback down in the 4th i feel like he can help spark things up. & i agree, i've been impressed every time romo has been mic'd up in the past.

that dez draft video never gets old either

KC has me a little uneasy tomorrow... last years 2nd game is still fresh in my mind & with our schedule getting tougher as the season goes on, we need to take advantage of these winnable games at the start. if we get off to a great start, going into the rough part of our schedule could be with a lot more needed confidence.

The game tomorrow will be tuff. KC is sneaky good. They have to force Smith to have to beat them. Get up early and put KC on there heals and they must keep Charles in check. That's a lot to do so if they win it may be by a FG.

 

[mr s j king]

Hopefully we can do to KC what Mayweather is doing to Alvarez.
Dominate

 

[blackboyfly]

27-24 Cowboys - the defense puts the game away in the final minutes for the second week in a row

 

[mr s j king]

The game is less than 12 hours away.
Gotta get my butt in the bed.
Have to be at church at 9.
See you boys at 1pm est/12pm cst.

 

[kid fiasco]

Dez with one of his best career games vs NO. and we see them again this year.... 

 

[mr s j king]

Dez had an amazing first half, and some how we stopped throwing him the ball.
One of the many games last year we should have won.

 

[chiacrack]

anyone got a link for the game?

 

[ackdaquick]

Jammal Charles looks like he wants to make it a long day for our D with these receptions out the backfield