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3 sweeps...legacy busters.
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elpablo21
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Even more than getting a bucket. Also creating a bucket will always reign supreme.
Magic is Top 4/5 all time because of that. Not because he was an elite two way guy
Defense and other aspects are extremely important in hoops but you can see playmaking at a high level will shift the scales. It's always been that way
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Hell yeah bro, the more I watch the more reminded I get.
and I appreciate you for bringing up Magic. I was too young to watch him but that’s how I always envisioned that as the right way to play basketball and I feel like he doesn’t get his proper respect (how would anyone born after 1990 know how good Magic Johnson was?)
On a broader scale: Making the extra pass, getting everyone involved… I know I sound like a boomer but it’s so beautiful, I love that ****. I love the Steph/Kobe/MJ killer scoring machines but I’ll always prefer to play basketball the way Magic played. That’s why I love Jokic’s game and even Lebron. Everybody plays harder when they know they’re going to touch the ball.
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If this is something that really matters to yall it's a worse indictment on the Warriors getting bounced by them
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This video makes me sad tho. End of an era frfr.
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Yeah like Magic is always up there as all time overall players but he was never a high volume scorer and his defense was ok but he was such an elite ELITE offensive guy that bended the defense into submission.
Something I had to learn over the years when valuing a players impact on a game
Like you said making an extra pass, getting others involved (rim pressure, ect) but even with Steph, MJ and Kobe. There's gravity there and you have to make plays out of that that aren't always reactionary.
Tatum and Embiid to me are two prime examples of guys who I think are great at offense but when they're asked to playmake it's gets dicey and you can see their limitations.
Embiid can't make passes out of the post because of his vision so hes always has to operate outside and even then he's still more reactionary when making a pass rather than creating a passing lane. Tatum has gotten a little better but he's not consistent enough and the offense he's in is still my turn, your turn. And neither tbh make up for it enough on defense to really compare to even to some guys with less defense
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been on this train a while. I see the vision now over the last couple years
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I need Jokic to win so he can have a chip while Embiid looks at his MVP trophy in disgust.
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man wth, i just listened to draymond wax poetic about tristan thompson for 10 minutes
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The Jokic-Jovic finals finna be lit
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I need Jokic to win so he can have a chip while Embiid looks at his MVP trophy in disgust.
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Y’all gotta stop blaming Russ. The Lakers were trash because their best two players couldn’t consistently stay on the court together. None those new players made a real difference. Ultimately it came down to AD and his effort
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Yeah like Magic is always up there as all time overall players but he was never a high volume scorer and his defense was ok but he was such an elite ELITE offensive guy that bended the defense into submission.
Something I had to learn over the years when valuing a players impact on a game
Like you said making an extra pass, getting others involved (rim pressure, ect) but even with Steph, MJ and Kobe. There's gravity there and you have to make plays out of that that aren't always reactionary.
Tatum and Embiid to me are two prime examples of guys who I think are great at offense but when they're asked to playmake it's gets dicey and you can see their limitations.
Embiid can't make passes out of the post because of his vision so hes always has to operate outside and even then he's still more reactionary when making a pass rather than creating a passing lane. Tatum has gotten a little better but he's not consistent enough and the offense he's in is still my turn, your turn. And neither tbh make up for it enough on defense to really compare to even to some guys with less defense
People joke about it but it's really one of the best things about Steph Curry. He creates buckets for other people by....standing there. He crosses half court and it immediately becomes an issue for a defense. The gravity is truly something else.
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Congrats to the real MVP 
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57 pages overnight. Y'all are hell 
What a beautiful day it is though!
What a beautiful day it is though!
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With the hypothetical given earlier about adding a big to an established wing, if I’m the Celtics and could trade Jaylen Brown for either AD or Joker, choosing AD would be INSANE.
Nothing Joker does takes away from a star wing. Nothing. Only adds. He was 25th in the league in usage. Makes everyone’s job easier.
Nothing Joker does takes away from a star wing. Nothing. Only adds. He was 25th in the league in usage. Makes everyone’s job easier.
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#wewasntevensupposedtobehere
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Looking forward to a Nuggets-Heat series.
No agendas, no narratives. Just high level coaching & hoops.
No agendas, no narratives. Just high level coaching & hoops.
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Lakers got them figured out for next season
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GOOD MORNING LOS ANGELES
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MJ got swept, Kobe got swept 
If only I could see what MJ looked like at 38 in the Conference Finals.
If only I could see what MJ looked like at 38 in the Conference Finals.
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Yall take that retirement talk to the off season thread.
No way he retires before he see if bonny gonna get drafted etc.
No way he retires before he see if bonny gonna get drafted etc.
