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The Official NBA Season Thread: NBA Cup Begins | Embiid Debut | Klay Return
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- Apr 30, 2010
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Truly. Dudes turn everything to conflict.
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What does he mean over the years? Tony Parker is European and won multiple titles. Dirk is European and beat a heavily favored Miami Team.
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Pretty sure Dirk was getting killed for years pre-2011.
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Dirk was held up as a shining example of european players being overrated until he won
antidope
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I would rather see Jokic not win MVP if this narrative is gonna gain momentum again
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Jokic’s supposed lack of playoff success has been brought up and discussed a lot over the last two seasons. Including like daily in here this season.
People talked about Luka not getting past the 1st round until he did it last year.
People talked about Luka not getting past the 1st round until he did it last year.
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The subtext of this whole "MVP/Jokic" discussion is really nasty but this is the world we live in
"European" is being used a code word for White and "US" is being used for black.
But as we know...things aren't that black/white. Giannis is not a "US" player...and will tell you he caught plenty of criticism from 2019-2021. Pre-social media era...but Dirk was cooked after 06 until he got it done.
This argument is SOOOO loud...that this IS the Jokic critique ****** keep pretending like doesn't exist. We're in the middle of it...right now
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But Jokic is absolutely going to win it.
Last year was actually disputable. (I had Embiid)
This year? It’s definitely Jokic.
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I don't even think it hit its peak yet.
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Can't wait to watch Denver get curb stomped out the playoffs again and have people talk about how its a regular season award.
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Think this Bucks winning streak is gonna push Giannis to the front of the MVP talk with Jokic.
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It’s going to get crazy bad if Jokic doesn’t win a chip this year.
And he collects his MVP trophy on his horse cart in Serbia again during the playoffs
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This is an insane take.
Nobody caught more flack than Dirk.
I now understand how Mike Wilbon feels, im the old cranky sports fan.
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They will probably give it to Jokic again next year too cause why not?
Jokic does not catch the same not winning a chip slander every other player with multiple MVP's would be catching.
Honestly Podcast P takes more heat than Jokic and he told yall this week he isn't even a #1 player on a championship team.
Jokic does not catch the same not winning a chip slander every other player with multiple MVP's would be catching.
Honestly Podcast P takes more heat than Jokic and he told yall this week he isn't even a #1 player on a championship team.
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Pre Dirk winning a chip? it was nasty.
The way people talked about Dirk openly would get you canceled today tbh,
very retrograde subtext to all of it.
The way people talked about Dirk openly would get you canceled today tbh,
very retrograde subtext to all of it.
antidope
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Kendirick Perkins said it out loud on national TV. Its super wack man its not good for basketball at all.The subtext of this whole "MVP/Jokic" discussion is really nasty but this is the world we live in
"European" is being used a code word for White and "US" is being used for black.
But as we know...things aren't that black/white. Giannis is not a "US" player...and will tell you he caught plenty of criticism from 2019-2021. Pre-social media era...but Dirk was cooked after 06 until he got it done.
This argument is SOOOO loud...that this IS the Jokic critique ****** keep pretending like doesn't exist. We're in the middle of it...right now
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I love Jokic, prob my fav player.
but his game is just EXTREMELY well suited to the regular season.
I think theres a good chance they lose to GSW if Steph is healthy,
and I think there is no way they beat a healthy Suns.
Jokic is gunna need to catch a really lucky draw I think to win a ring.
but his game is just EXTREMELY well suited to the regular season.
I think theres a good chance they lose to GSW if Steph is healthy,
and I think there is no way they beat a healthy Suns.
Jokic is gunna need to catch a really lucky draw I think to win a ring.
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Tatum and Giannis have a better claim for MVP than Jokic right now.
But somehow Jokic is the runaway favorite.
But somehow Jokic is the runaway favorite.
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So basically empty stats like Westbrook?
