The Official NBA Season Thread: NBA Cup Begins | Embiid Debut | Klay Return

[dacomeup]

who rates guys like Jordan Poole or John Collins high enough to be considered overrated?

Prob dudes looking at their contracts versus who they actually are

 

[Brownstone]

The ONLY argument against Wemby (or AD) winning is that his teammates aren’t good

36 more steals and 92 more blocks in 5 less games. Deters folks from even attempting shots just like Goober.

The eye test backs up the stats even more

It's been a team award for decades. Lowest wins I can see in the past 20 years was given to Noah and that team won 48 times. That essentially cancels out Wemby here.

Leaving AD vs Gobert A difference of nearly 10 wins and a defensive rating of 1st overall compared to 12th overall.

TBH, if you are relinquishing wing defenders as the media has essentially done, you are acknowledging that it should go to the best defender on the better team all things being equal or close enough to be and stats are effectively meaningless.

 

[finessence]

POST THE SPURS RECORD

Celtics have the best record… so why isn’t Tatum the MVP favorite?

If we’re basing everything off team records

 

[rolaholic]

Celtics have the best record… so why isn’t Tatum the MVP favorite?

My guy's gonna say because he's American

 

[addict4sneakers]

“It’s a team award” but won’t acknowledge ant man.

 

[WASHED KING]

EYE hope y'all are seeing how winning is being removed in favor of stats for Wemby but those same measures aren't provided to other players.

 

[B Sox]

It's been a team award for decades. Lowest wins I can see in the past 20 years was given to Noah and that team won 48 times. That essentially cancels out Wemby here.

Leaving AD vs Gobert A difference of nearly 10 wins and a defensive rating of 1st overall compared to 12th overall.

TBH, if you are relinquishing wing defenders as the media has essentially done, you are acknowledging that it should go to the best defender on the better team all things being equal or close enough to be and stats are effectively meaningless.

So you’re acknowledging that Goober does absolutely nothing better defensively than Wemby and only deserves the award because he gets to play with awesome teammates, specifically Ant and McDaniels who are 2 of the better perimeter defenders in the league?

Seems kinda funny.

He’s the exception to the rule. A generational 7’4” alien that has made an immediate impact defensively on one of the least talented teams in the league that did nothing to make themselves better in the offseason aside from drafting him. If you put Goober in his place, the Spurs would be worse defensively.

 

[WASHED KING]

The Spurs won 22 games.

 

[MIKE LOWERY]

So it's basically between Wemby and AD. AD is in the playoffs.




Voila.

 

[WASHED KING]

So it's basically between Wemby and AD. AD is in the playoffs.




Voila.

Easy choice.

AD

 

[picasso swerve]

So you’re acknowledging that Goober does absolutely nothing better defensively than Wemby and only deserves the award because he gets to play with awesome teammates, specifically Ant and McDaniels who are 2 of the better perimeter defenders in the league?

Seems kinda funny.

He’s the exception to the rule. A generational 7’4” alien that has made an immediate impact defensively on one of the least talented teams in the league that did nothing to make themselves better in the offseason aside from drafting him. If you put Goober in his place, the Spurs would be worse defensively.

Id love if Wemby won and his stats support it, that one comparison of his stats this year vs one of the years Gooby won it is crazy.

That being said, its another award where wins def is a factor. Goobys teammate make him look better yeah, but hes still a big part of why their defense is good as it is. I woudnt be mad if he won it again.

 

[WASHED KING]

The push to give Wemby the award is all agenda based to push him as the next face of the league so they can add a remarkable honor to his name of DPOY as a rookie.

 

[MVP]

I don't think Goober ever had the impact of a Dwert or even a Ben Wallace with what we've seen repeatedly with him getting destroyed in the playoffs, but he's been placed in those guys' realm. He's really a regular season player personified.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

After Russ won mvp all those rules went out the window. Voters should be tired of gobert by now

 

[WASHED KING]

And Jokic is about to have 3 MVP's. The same number as Bird and Magic.

 

[lovehateself]

I don't think Goober ever had the impact of a Dwert or even a Ben Wallace with what we've seen repeatedly with him getting destroyed in the playoffs, but he's been placed in those guys' realm. He's really a regular season player personified.

tall french d'lo ?

 

[WASHED KING]

After Russ won mvp all those rules went out the window. Voters should be tired of gobert by now

Voters don't get tired of euros.

Unless it's Luka he has to put up 40 a game to get a MVP

 

[addict4sneakers]

 

[B Sox]

And Jokic is about to have 3 MVP's. The same number as Bird and Magic.

And the run he’s been on is deserving of being talked about in that company.

 

[rolaholic]

You've got seasoned pros talking like they're in literal awe when asked about him in the locker room but it's all agenda driven by the Euro loving media apparently

 

[MVP]

After Russ won mvp all those rules went out the window. Voters should be tired of gobert by now

Aye chill. Brodie's MVP was legit as they come, the people's champ

 

[addict4sneakers]

The euro agenda is real but nah wemby is the goods

 

[rolaholic]

 

[toneboi76]

Gobert not even the best defender on his team

 

[rolaholic]

Dude is hilarious