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This man was getting serious minutes in the Finals series Steph showed how great he was btw.
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This man was getting serious minutes in the Finals series Steph showed how great he was btw.
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1. Memphis's defense was significantly better and was .5 points off the top of the league.
2. C is more valuable than wing during the regular season.
3. we look back at that roster as great defensively,
but Conley, Z-Bo, Rudy Gay, didn't have great defensive reputations untill the defense was really built around Marc.
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How are you going to mention all them and not mention Tony Allen who was the actual best defender on that team who made 1st team all defense?
You’re better than that.
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Because a C has a bigger impact than a Wing on defense.
So Tony Allen getting a positional all defense nod is irrelevant.
It's easier to take them out of the play.
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My point was Marc Gasol wasn’t an elite shot blocker and he was surrounded by other great defenders that made him look better than what he was.
I’d understand if he was leading the league in blocks or posting crazy numbers but he wasn’t.
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You dont have to lead the league in blocks or steals to be an elite defender. Marc Gasol was elite on that end.
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Like the whole day in here…
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You don't need to be an elite shot blocker to be a great rim protector and a great defensive C.
Plenty of C's with high block rates who weren't nearly as impactful on actually preventing the other team from scoring points.
Hassan Whiteside, Brandon Wright ect.
And you gotta remember this is the spread pick and roll era but PRE the switching era
so traditional big man pick and roll coverage was way more important and valuable.
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Gotta get Bryce some better security, dude shoulda been sent on his way soon as he started throwing up the set and *****.
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Yeah to you he wasn't, you a lifelong Kobe hater. A lot of this thread is too.
None of y'all can really name 10 that's better.
Easily
MJ
Kareem
Lebron
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Shaq
Hakeem
Wilt
Russell
Most people on this list have at least 2 fmvps
Tell me which ones Kobe and Steph better than without taking off Wilt and Russell resorting to “MODERN DAY BASKETBALL” tactics
This the GOAT list not the modern day basketball list.
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I love Hakeem but he not over Kobe. Hakeem was 2/3 in NBA finals. Kobe is 5/7. C'mon with Wilt and Russell we didn't see them and that's a whole different era of basketball. Kobe passed Shaq after #5. He passed up Duncan in 08. Kobe's peak was longer than Birds peak.
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I don’t know if I put him over Hakeem. I’m going off more than just championships.
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Hakeem
2xfmvp
mvp
2xdpoy
3xblocks leader
2xrebs leader
Shaq
3xfmvp
mvp
2xscoring champ
roty
Kobe
2xfmvp
mvp
2xscoring champ
I could go on but it’s late.
Maybe tmr.
Mentioning TD and Kobe in the same breath is actually disrespectful.
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Keep going
Kobe
11x all nba 1st team
5x champion
9x defensive 1st team
Shaq
8x all nba 1st team
4x champion
Never defensive 1st team
Hakeem
6x all nba 1st team
2x champion
5x defensive 1st team
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No sarcasm but you probably blew the mind of half the basketball community with this one
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idk if this is just basketball ignorance or an attempt at the most blatant and careless revisionist history.. but this has to be one of the worst takes i’ve seen on NT since i joined in 2005
warriors have been down 2-1 in multiple playoff series —memphis ‘14, cavs ‘14, okc (3-1) ‘16, rockets (3-2) ‘18 celtics ‘22, kings ‘23 —and won those series. those aren’t adverse/desperate situations?
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Look like it's over for Ros
Her friend doe look like a Tinashe with cheeks.
over? my guy, are we watching the same video?
still WOOD.
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I mean yeah I'll hit it but she passed her prime
She got into a car accident and started gaining weight, I kinda give her a pass but damn.
moe200069
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I mean yeah I'll hit it but she passed her prime
She got into a car accident and started gaining weight, I kinda give her a pass but damn.
out of the park.. with all due respect
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I think playing too long especially those Clippers years did more harm than his talking.
Draymond trash talk alone did major damage
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hakeem and Kobe are the same tier.
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Ros went from being a slim pyt to being an auntie with a fat ***
It's a natural progression that I appreciate more and more as I get older
It's a natural progression that I appreciate more and more as I get older
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