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We already knew who would come in here and take up the rings over money case, but we can’t call yo a certain word tho 
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But given Scottie will not be able to fully enjoy the total fruits of his labor (because of bad contract and divorce law), I think 100 million might make that man feel better.
I give you an extra 100 million but you are no longer NBA legend, one of the most famous athlete's of all time,
but instead you are ****olded Antwan Jaimeson?
Nah id you keep the 100 rather be Scottie.
no matter how many NBA player children Larsa sleeps with Scottie still 6 rings, still Bulls Scoitte.
if you are Antwan Jamison and the same thing happens, that the only thing we will remember you for, for the rest of time. I can't take that 100 million can't fix that.
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How many of those dudes are taking $50M buyouts to ring chase? This is not a good faith point at all
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But this isn’t the comparison that gets made most of the timeI give you an extra 100 million but you are no longer NBA legend, one of the most famous athlete's of all time,
but instead you are ****olded Antwan Jaimeson?
Nah id you keep the 100 rather be Scottie.
no matter how many NBA player children Larsa sleeps with Scottie still 6 rings, still Bulls Scoitte.
if you are Antwan Jamison and the same thing happens, that the only thing we will remember you for, for the rest of time. I can't take that 100 million can't fix that.
Generally it’s Star with no rings and lots of money vs role player with rings.
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Antawn Jamison somewhere chilling, minding his business. Scottie out here hating on MJ daily, miserable seeing his ex get popped by MJ’s son and now back in the streets chasing young joints. That man ain’t seeing happiness with his rings.I give you an extra 100 million but you are no longer NBA legend, one of the most famous athlete's of all time,
but instead you are ****olded Antwan Jaimeson?
Nah id you keep the 100 rather be Scottie.
no matter how many NBA player children Larsa sleeps with Scottie still 6 rings, still Bulls Scoitte.
if you are Antwan Jamison and the same thing happens, that the only thing we will remember you for, for the rest of time. I can't take that 100 million can't fix that.
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But this isn’t the comparison that gets made most of the time
Generally it’s Star with no rings and lots of money vs role player with rings.
well the specific one I was responding to was specifically to was 50 million and 1 ring vs 100 million and no rings.
I wasn't talking about star vs role player.
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I was cool being Horry and Iggy so I stand with
osh kosh bosh
But nope don't want to be Scottie and that insane contract
osh kosh bosh
But nope don't want to be Scottie and that insane contract
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well that's not the comparison.
The apples to apples comparison is if Antwan Jaimsons wife was having sex with Gilber Arenas's son. would Antwan be happier than Pippen because he made more money.
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A player's prime money-making years often coincide with their best playing years. While there are examples of players turning down money for a superteam, it seems to me the norm is for players to take the money.
If rings were such a bigger contributor to overall happiness, then we would see young players sacrificing money for rings too
We see players sign extensions and then demand a trade with multiple years left. If they were so indifferent to money, then they would just wait for free agency.
Again, you have no evidence to support this.
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at this point, osh just needs to go on twitter and ask these nba players directly what their thought are on winning vs taking an extra $100m
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None of the guys who are ring chasing are giving up large quantities of money . Kevin Love, NBA champ, made sure he got almost all of that $31.3 million before he got out of Cleveland.
. Kevin Love, NBA champ, made sure he got almost all of that $31.3 million before he got out of Cleveland.
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No
He just said people don’t know what makes them happy even if they say what would make them happy
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when you are in your prime you aren't really faced with the stark choice of more money vs ring.
if you are a prime player, you have more impact on winning, the difference is money are flattened because of max contracts and restricted free agency, you have more chances to wing one because you are young.
later career players is more apt comparison. they are have made lots of money, and they require a good team to win a ring and the chances to win a ring are running out.
happiness plateaus at 500k and doesn't increase if you are unhappy and rich.
I think that's the clearest evidence we have.
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David West opted out of $12M with the Pacers to ring chase with the Spurs on the minimum. Ended up getting two rings for the minimum with the Warriors.
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Bruce brown left the best basketball situation for guess what?None of the guys who are ring chasing are giving up large quantities of money
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That was the biggest one I could think of and he passed on prob a ~$10M over 2 years? The middle class of guys who never had big individual success like the only guys we really even see doing this.
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and nobody thought this was bizarre or strange at the time.
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We had to be on two different parts of the internet when that happened
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Iirc there was definitley eyebrows raised even if he was at the end of his career and the Spurs were really good.
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there are whole books of philosophy devoted to understanding what is happiness and understanding the meaning of life.
There are entire religious traditions devoted to escaping the hedonic treadmill.
there are psychologist hard at work trying to understand what makes a human happy and how that differs from the sedation of hedonistic pleasures.
if you humans really had perfect knowledge of what will and wont make them happy
that would really solve a lot of problems,
but they obviously don't.
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The only explanation for Osh’s staunch defense of the $50M and rings is that he is worth $100MM+ and unhappy.
There is no absolutely other reason to go this hard and make the points that he is making.
There is no absolutely other reason to go this hard and make the points that he is making.
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If you are using the 500K thing as evidence, and applying it to players, then nearly all NBA players acting rationally should be ring-chasing
So your theory doesn't apply to the individuals making the largest salaries, those who should be also indifferent to the money?
But you seem very confident that you are clearly universally correct.
It is clear that this money over championships thing mainly applies to a subgroup of older players.
That by itself proves very little in regard to the discussion you are having
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