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i WAS using a Bold and Iphone. i sold the bold

now Instinct and Iphone until the blackberry tour drops.

but that's a good combo... Bold and Iphone jailbroken and unlocked=
pimp.gif
 
Originally Posted by Jonahtheballer

i WAS using a Bold and Iphone. i sold the bold

now Instinct and Iphone until the blackberry tour drops.

but that's a good combo... Bold and Iphone jailbroken and unlocked=
pimp.gif


What carrier will have the tour? I know I'm late...
 
Originally Posted by victorjames

Man $%! I just got back from Florida and Steve McNair has been shot and killed.....
Cousin called and told me to turn on the news, I'm still in denial. Steve was a great man on and off the field, had that rare thing calledcharacter which is rare
among today's arrogant and puffed up athletes. I'll miss him.
I know that VY is devistated, Steve was a huge presence in his life. Thoughts and prayers go out to Steve, his family, friends, and fans.
 
Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

victorjames wrote:

Man $%! I just got back from Florida and Steve McNair has been shot and killed.....
Cousin called and told me to turn on the news, I'm still in denial. Steve was a great man on and off the field, had that rare thing called character which is rare
among today's arrogant and puffed up athletes. I'll miss him.
I know that VY is devistated, Steve was a huge presence in his life. Thoughts and prayers go out to Steve, his family, friends, and fans.




funny we are talking about character and it's obvious he was cheating on his wife. ironic.
 
Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda

Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

victorjames wrote:

Man $%! I just got back from Florida and Steve McNair has been shot and killed.....
Cousin called and told me to turn on the news, I'm still in denial. Steve was a great man on and off the field, had that rare thing called character which is rare
among today's arrogant and puffed up athletes. I'll miss him.
I know that VY is devistated, Steve was a huge presence in his life. Thoughts and prayers go out to Steve, his family, friends, and fans.


funny we are talking about character and it's obvious he was cheating on his wife. ironic.

Funny thing is none of know for sure what happened.
 
Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda

Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

victorjames wrote:

Man $%! I just got back from Florida and Steve McNair has been shot and killed.....
Cousin called and told me to turn on the news, I'm still in denial. Steve was a great man on and off the field, had that rare thing called character which is rare
among today's arrogant and puffed up athletes. I'll miss him.
I know that VY is devistated, Steve was a huge presence in his life. Thoughts and prayers go out to Steve, his family, friends, and fans.


funny we are talking about character and it's obvious he was cheating on his wife. ironic.

Steve's marriage has nothing to do with what he did for the Titans organization, or for the city as a whole.
 
Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

sekim2detcidda wrote:


Supermanblue79 wrote:


victorjames wrote:



Man $%! I just got back from Florida and Steve McNair has been shot and killed.....
Cousin called and told me to turn on the news, I'm still in denial. Steve was a great man on and off the field, had that rare thing called character which is rare
among today's arrogant and puffed up athletes. I'll miss him.
I know that VY is devistated, Steve was a huge presence in his life. Thoughts and prayers go out to Steve, his family, friends, and fans.




funny we are talking about character and it's obvious he was cheating on his wife. ironic.

Steve's marriage has nothing to do with what he did for the Titans organization, or for the city as a whole.






I never said that Blue.

I don't claim to be 1/2 the TN sports fan either of you are. With that said, I believe I can be much more objective on this subject.

Blue's initial comment was about the "character" (quoted to show comment) of Steve McNair, him being a great person on/off the field, etc. NowI'm not downplaying the charitable work he did in the city, mentoring he did for younger players in the league, or any other nice thing you can say aboutthe guy. However, we all know that he is a husband and father that was having an affair with this broad. Please explain how this shows character in anyway...you cant. Do celebs/athletes live different lives than we do? Of course, but you cannot honestly say a person has character if they violate a basic valueas marriage. Before both of you reply, which I welcome, ask yourselves how "great" of a man outside of football was McNair? None of us know thedetails, but it's obvious he wasn't the saint you and other people make him out to be.
 
Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda

Originally Posted by Supermanblue79

sekim2detcidda wrote:


Supermanblue79 wrote:


victorjames wrote:



Man $%! I just got back from Florida and Steve McNair has been shot and killed.....
Cousin called and told me to turn on the news, I'm still in denial. Steve was a great man on and off the field, had that rare thing called character which is rare
among today's arrogant and puffed up athletes. I'll miss him.
I know that VY is devistated, Steve was a huge presence in his life. Thoughts and prayers go out to Steve, his family, friends, and fans.


funny we are talking about character and it's obvious he was cheating on his wife. ironic.

Steve's marriage has nothing to do with what he did for the Titans organization, or for the city as a whole.






I never said that Blue.

I don't claim to be 1/2 the TN sports fan either of you are. With that said, I believe I can be much more objective on this subject.

Blue's initial comment was about the "character" (quoted to show comment) of Steve McNair, him being a great person on/off the field, etc. Now I'm not downplaying the charitable work he did in the city, mentoring he did for younger players in the league, or any other nice thing you can say about the guy. However, we all know that he is a husband and father that was having an affair with this broad. Please explain how this shows character in any way...you cant. Do celebs/athletes live different lives than we do? Of course, but you cannot honestly say a person has character if they violate a basic value as marriage. Before both of you reply, which I welcome, ask yourselves how "great" of a man outside of football was McNair? None of us know the details, but it's obvious he wasn't the saint you and other people make him out to be.
...and neither is Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson in that context, but the choices that they made off the field don't deminish themany great things that they've done for their organizations, the fans, and their communities.
No man in this world is perfect and we all have our weaknesses. You just pray that GOD gives you another day to correct your mistakes. .
 
I am friends with "The Caucasian Persuation's brother"

That doesnt sound or look too good but that doesnt seem like him neither.

I tried contacting him tonight and got nothing.That myspace stuff is serious though.
I hope his brother didnt have a hand in that.

All I said Kev is we dont know the whole story.Speculation.....thats it.

Steve frequented the store and I grew to have a close relationship with him
and this situation is difficult to deal with right now.

and there are some real ignorant Niketalkers in general right now.
 
I agree with both of you in the sense that we dont know the entire story, and he did do good things off the field. The apparent fact about him being a grimeydude when it comes to cheating in my eyes does take away from the good things. I would like to think that I'm not the only one that thinks this way. It hasto take impact his character some, but to Blue's point he isn't the only one out there that is/was doing it. I did mention that celebs/athletes (Mj,Kobe, Magic, Shaq, A-Rod, etc) live a different lifestyle than we do, and I'm definitely not one to judge another man's actions. However, I believe mycriticism about his character is valid. Did he deserve to die for what he did? Not at all, but I'm definitely not going to run around screaming "poorSteve" because it looks that he got caught with his pants down...no pun.

Vic, the reason I included you in my response is because you responded so fast after my original comment beginning with "funny thing..." as I did. Itook it as sarcasm. Now that I know you were friends with Steve I will be a bit more sensitive to your loss.
 
you cant tell tone through a post, so I want to clarify that I meant no disrespect to either of you. I re-read my last post and it may be viewed as upset/rude,but I'm totally just debating.
 
Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda

you cant tell tone through a post, so I want to clarify that I meant no disrespect to either of you. I re-read my last post and it may be viewed as upset/rude, but I'm totally just debating.
none taken.

Your opinion just shows that you like myself are a dedicated husband and father...but the reality is that every person is human and capable of downfalls.
 
Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda

Originally Posted by Jonahtheballer

i WAS using a Bold and Iphone. i sold the bold

now Instinct and Iphone until the blackberry tour drops.

but that's a good combo... Bold and Iphone jailbroken and unlocked=
pimp.gif


What carrier will have the tour? I know I'm late...
Sprint and Verizon.
 
man I read about it after you mentioned it. That phone seems kind of wack, but I may not understand the pros. What benefits does it have over the curve otherthan the screen?
 
Interesting article about McNair and why we shouldnt make him a martyr so soon...

LINK

Updated: July 7, 2009, 11:46 AM EDT
We can quit calling Steve McNair a great leader now. Leadership starts at home.

And I'm no longer all that interested in hearing about the community service work McNair did in Tennessee and Mississippi. Service to community begins at home, too.

If you read this column regularly, you know I'm not the morality police, you know I'm far from bothered by McNair's May-December romance and you probably should've surmised I get my "Becky on" from time to time.

Stop reading now if your preference is sugar-coated, politically-correct, phony-!%$ pontificating. You can find plenty of that garbage littering the Internet.

I'm going to get knee deep in this Steve McNair tragedy and what it really signifies.

Until the police wrap up their investigation, I'm only willing to acknowledge four victims - McNair's four sons.

I don't know how to classify the adults in this saga - McNair, his wife Mechelle or his 20-year-old girlfriend, Sahel "Jenny" Kazemi.

The kids, they're victims of two horrific crimes: 1. the murder of their father; 2. their father's apparent abandonment so that he had time to wine, dine, vacation and shack up with his jump-off.

Let me repeat, I'm not some sanctimonious moralizer.

Personally, I prefer June-December romances, but a blossoming May flower certainly could be fertilized into a special, 28-year-old bouquet by a patient and attentive gardener.

As for the life-experience, station-in-life disparity between a retired millionaire quarterback and a Dave & Buster's waitress, well, let he who has never Captained cast the first +%!.

Every man I know has a little Captain in him. We see a pretty young thang working her way through nursing or cosmetology school and it's just in our nature to pay a cellphone bill, a car note or get her nails done.

It's what we do. And if you've earned a chunk of change in professional sports or in corporate America, you might buy a big black Escalade in her name, fly her to Vegas or go parasailing over the ocean.

It's not a black or white thing. It's not an athlete thing. It's a man thing we haven't been able to shake since Eve gave us an apple.

The look of pure, unadulterated joy on McNair's face captured as he and Jenny parasailed is one every real man recognizes as the uncontrollable feeling of elation that gushes through the male, middle-aged body when he finds the Tenderoni Bobby Brown sang about.

Do not read this as me condoning McNair's extramarital affair. I'm not.

But we don't know the nature of Steve and Mechelle McNair's relationship. We don't know what made them happy, what agreement they reached or what was transpiring in their marriage.

What we do know is that McNair had four sons. And based on the observations and comments of Kazemi's neighbors and neighbors at the condominium McNair rented, McNair spent so much time with Kazemi over the past few months that people assumed they lived together.

You see, this is my problem with McNair, with American men as a whole.

We shirk our responsibilities as fathers. We don't have time for it. We think it's a part- or no-time job. We think our career is more important. We think charity work is more important. We think some young tail is more important.

We foolishly believe we're unnecessary in the rearing of children. This mindset must die.

I pass no judgment on McNair kicking it with a woman 16 years his junior. I don't agree with it, but I pass no judgment on McNair "cheating" on his wife.

However, I think it's ridiculous and embarrassing that he spent so much time chasing after a Nashville waitress that he created the impression he lived with her.

Many have tried, but you can't maintain two homes, two families. If HBO has shown us anything, it's that kids are the losers when it comes to Big Love.

You can't live with a waitress in a condo/apartment, take her parasailing, clubbing, to Vegas and raise a brood of boys living in a home on the other side of town.

Kids are game-changers. Kids require sacrifice. Kids are a daily and sometimes hourly responsibility. You don't properly raise them in your spare time with money, fame, gifts and glowing newspaper and magazine stories about your courage to play on Sundays despite injury and pain.

Steve McNair sounds like a warrior who fought the wrong war. He won a public-relations battle.

He was so popular in Nashville that when his under-drinking-age "Becky" got popped driving her mistress ransom while drunk and/or high the police called a cab to give McNair, the Escalade passenger, a ride home.

This is the privilege of fame and inclusion in the boys club. We're so mentally diseased that we instinctively feel empathy and envy when we see a married father of four liquored up with his near-teenage girlfriend.

You know what the cop was thinking:

But for the grace of God, two-tenths of a second on my 40 time and the high school coach who made me play tight end rather than receiver, there go I.

Steve McNair was flawed in the same way as most American men.

Too many men think financial success is their primary and most important contribution to a relationship with their kids, wives and/or girlfriends. A grown woman has the right to settle for that. Children shouldn't have to settle for anything less than their father's very best effort.
 
Hey can any of yall let me know when the tax free weekend or whatever its called starts? I'm going to do my rounds in here in Bama then head up toNashville for the Tennessee one
 
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