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Yeah I don't know about all that. But it's probably going over my head because I haven't followed the back and forth.
I don't have an opinion either way on how he should have been dealt with.
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Yeah I don't know about all that. But it's probably going over my head because I haven't followed the back and forth.
I don't have an opinion either way on how he should have been dealt with.
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Right. Indirect. His actions indirectly caused his father's death.
The killers' actions directly caused his father's death.
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Interesting to me that MJ never got pushed to a Game 7 in the Finals and never swept a team in the finals, but he WAS up 3-0 on Seattle
one 5-game series
Five 6-games series
97 and 92 were the closest finals, both tied 2-2
one 5-game series
Five 6-games series
97 and 92 were the closest finals, both tied 2-2
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darthska
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"Buddy, you owe me a eff-ton of money, but I don't want you to feel any pressure to pay me back. Pay me back whenever you can, and I promise there will be no consequences. If I get a feeling that maybe you WON'T ever pay me back, there still won't be any consequences. I'm a no pressure, easy to work with bookie. Let's see, you owe me millions. How about you just give me a $100 a week? Does that work for you? Now you better not skip out on me, but even if you do, no worries."
Makes sense.
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I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure this is wrong. You don’t get charged for “being a drug dealer.” You get charged for specific drug-related crimes. And there’s more required for being charged as part of a criminal conspiracy than just giving someone money.
If what you’re saying is right, basically any big customer of a drug dealer could be charged for all crimes committed by that dealer on conspiracy grounds. I don’t think that happens.
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Not following. Seriously. I don’t see the point you’re making at all.
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Ok, to settle this I asked my lawyer. She's been my legal counsel for my whole life. I affectionally refer to her as "Mother" or "Mummy" (we're west indian). She laughed and then gave some long explanation that can be summed up as "No". Too late to prosecute him now, and even if it wasn't no one would waste the time and resources for someone who wasn't actually involved in running the illegal gambling. Then went into why it's unlikely the death was a professional hit.
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You mean like Clay Davis?
It would probably have to proven that said money funded illegal activities aka the paper trail.
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Tell your mother I said thanks.
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Lee, dc and osh are the Spider-Man meme these days
darthska
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Killing the father of someone who owes you millions doesn't necessarily have to do with repayment of those millions. It could and most likely is applying pressure to settle that debt, not a repayment of said debt.
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thread turned into a whole lot of contrarian takes, well actuallys, and dudes arguing for the sake of arguing only to realize 5 pages later they don't even know what they're arguing about. now dudes turning into internet lawyers too? yuck.
lawdog1
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Right. But we were talking about MJ actually being held criminally responsible for the death of his father. If he wasn’t actually involved in the murder in some way, which seems very unlikely, he can’t face a criminal penalty for the murder. Whether he bears some moral culpability for it is a different issue.
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It's still stupid to act like it should be covered up for the sake of the NBA's popularity
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Contrarianism implies I don't believe what im arguing. Which is not true.
I just don't see the point in posting unless I have some thought that's different than the concensus.
NT would be a lot more boring if it was just filled with identical takes on how much we all love Michael Jordan.
I just don't see the point in posting unless I have some thought that's different than the concensus.
NT would be a lot more boring if it was just filled with identical takes on how much we all love Michael Jordan.
do work son
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are you talking about the cover up in the 90s, or the modern-day keeping it under wraps?
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This is how I feel every time I pop in here and see the same people arguing over stupid **** 
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What's the difference?
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Nah buddy you owe me. Asking her a legal question is never a simple goddamn answer. She starts giving a whole seminar. That's time I can't get back.Time is money b. Ima need you to hit up my cashapp. A couple thousand should cover it.
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This is how I feel every time I pop in here and see the same people arguing over stupid ****
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Didn't realize it was two teenagers that killed his dad (allegedly or whatever). I was too young at the time to really follow along. Was it always widely assumed that it had to do with his gambling and not just a stick up of an old dude in a Lexus?
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Nice. There’s a reason why it’s a running joke in our profession that a lawyer’s answer to any legal questing always starts with “it depends...”
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and my contrarian non contrarian take on Mike 1st retirement and NBA conspiracies in general is...
that none of the NBA conspiracies are true.
hte idea that David Stern banned mike from basketball and they both never spoke about it to anyone for the rest of their lives is totally insane and belies everything we know about human beings ability to keep secrets.
that none of the NBA conspiracies are true.
hte idea that David Stern banned mike from basketball and they both never spoke about it to anyone for the rest of their lives is totally insane and belies everything we know about human beings ability to keep secrets.
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Lebron James managed to go to 8 straight finals precisely because he WASN'T as competitive as Michael Jordan.
nobody in basketball is better at selectively trying than Lebron James.
meanwhile Mike was trying to assassinate the expansion raptors in game 78 on the back end of a back to back.
It's not surprising to me given his insane level of fame, and the death of his father
that he passed up a 4th straight finals run.
nobody in basketball is better at selectively trying than Lebron James.
meanwhile Mike was trying to assassinate the expansion raptors in game 78 on the back end of a back to back.
It's not surprising to me given his insane level of fame, and the death of his father
that he passed up a 4th straight finals run.
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