Those who live a christian life, how do you feel?

[tupac jordan]

I don't believe in none of these so called prophets. Why are y'all gonna believe in someone's made up religion just because it was so long ago.
How would you react today if someone claimed they were the messiah or a prophet from God? That prophet is a damn psycho right?

 

[agentarenas]

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by hella handsome

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by hella handsome

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by wrukus

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by wrukus

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by cameltrophy24

Christianity is a touchy subject, especially here on NT. people don't take it serious and think it's a big joke. i'm a Christian, i was saved at the age of 22. i've been feeling like you have here lately. the devil will work hard to get you to fall, and then when you're down, he'll jump on your back and not let you up. it's been one thing after another for me. part of it is my fault, and part of it i don't understand. you can't let these things get you down, and keep you down. it's hard being a Christian in today's world, you've done more than most would. admitting Christ died for our sins. just keep your head up, pray, and resist the devil. stay stong brother, it's not an easy road.

Is it hard? Really?

I haven't noticed...

Most Christians that I've met are fine with just a few hail mary's and our fathers as "repentance" for their sins. Heck most of them haven't read a verse from the Bible and believe that simply believing Christ as the lamb of God is enough to be forgiven for all sins both past present and future.


Its a false sense of security, it takes more than just that to save you Christian or not.....


You want real advice? Follow that gut feeling, its called your conscience, if you're going against it you're doing it wrong....You know how to be a good man...

you know when there's a thread and some christian dude comes in posting a bunch of religious views and pisses everyone off? right now sneaker heathen is that dude. only the tables are turned. the op was obviously asking CHRISTIANS for A CHRISTIAN'S point of view. your religious or anti christian arguments are not even close to answering what the thread is asking. nowadays it seems that some atheists, agnostics, and other non christians do way more preaching and argument starting than christians ever did. op, i hope you find what you need.

So now I'm anti christian?

Okay.


This is NT not ChristiansforChristians.org....

I'm going to keep it 100 till then...

the thread was directed to christians. you chose to chime in with a view point that was not asked for. its like going to the cdp 11 12 thread and talking about fushions. just looking for an argument. call it what you want. if that's keepin it 100, then more power to you.

Not looking for an argument, but OP opened a can of worms....


As a Muslim, (religious views aside) I believe anyone whom is a GOOD person. A SELFLESS person, a person whom has done good throughout his life, God fearing or not I cannot believe he is Hell bound....


I SIMPLY CAN'T...


With that said, It boggles my mind that so many Christians can basically straight up tell me that I'm hellbound because I don't believe Christ is the lamb of God.....

so... if he's asking for help from his fellow christians, and youre muslim.... why are you in here thread-jacking?
the OP didnt open a can of worms, you brought the worms in. The OP didnt make the thread ot start controversy. If you knew that this was a controvercial topic and trouble could be started, wouldnt it be common sense to not start trouble? thats like saying "ohman that register is open and not being watched, let me take the money!" even though you know taking the money is wrong. Even though you know trouble could be started from starting an argument... you do it anyway.

Christianity teaches you that you cannot get to the father without believing in his son. so doesnt that make it obvious that you cannot make it to heaven if you dont believe in Jesus? i mean... come on... obviously thats what it means. you can be the nicest person on earth, but if you dont believe in the son of God, you still wont make it without faith.

and to the OP, it sounds like you need to re-commit your faith. make more of an effort to walk the right path everyday. i know how you are feeling too because i find myself in that same place. it isnt easy, but when you have God on your side, nothing is too hard fam. just keep pressing on and when things get too hard or when you feel like you are taking 2 steps back instead of 2 steps forward just call on God. he will help you through anything man.

stay up.

If I didn't make my comments someone else eventually would have, welcome to NT...


Obviously I know what the bible is implying, I just wanted to know how some NTers feel about it. I think its funny you can condemn someone to an eternity of hellfire even if they we're good people all their life....




So by that logic, a bad person with alot of faith has a better chance of getting to heaven than Ghandi....


Hmmm, if thats not cause for debate I don't know what is.

I know what it is, you don't want me to speak on it because you know damn well something is wrong with your logic....I don't believe a righteous God would damn a good person....Muslim or not, Christian or not, Jewish or not....

how do you figure? a bad person is a bad person either way at the end of the day and they will have to answer to the father for their sins whether they have faith or not. so your "bad person with faith has a better chance of blah blah..." standpoint is flawed.

its easy to tell who actually has knowledge of a religion, and who just knows what they hear about a religion. because if you read the bible and understand what its saying, your responses wouldnt be "well i think a God that does this wouldnt do..." or "i dont believe a God would do..." because you would already know what he would do.

I can tell you for a FACT that MY God promised me eternal life for believing in his son Jesus Christ. i dont THINK it, i KNOW it.
he doesnt promise eternal life for just being a good person. half the work wont get you the full reward.

you need to study up more on a religion before you go pointing fingers trying to make a point.

i dont know anything about being a muslim. i only know how to follow Christ. so i wouldnt go and point out things in your religion to make it sound like you are dumb for following it. everytime Christianity is brought up on NT, someone walks in talking as if they know EVERYTHING about it, when most of the time, they dont know a damn thing. and they all sound the same. stating personal opinions as if they were fact, they themselves probably never opened a bible. its ignorant, and in reality, they speak about christian always sounding so high and mighty when its really them. ignorance

ignorance is poison.

And btw, if bad people are still bad people then why do so many bad people whom happen to be Christian go around acting like their @(#* don't stink and all will be forgiven? You're acting like Christians don't act like that, and there are PLENTY whom do....Thats what I've been saying, you want to twist and stretch my words go ahead, don't expect me to take you seriously though.

Honestly, I don't understand why you are asking this here. You bring up a valid argument, but its not relevant to this thread. OP wasaddressing a question to "Those who live a Christian Life". Not CHRISTIANS, but those who believe that on some level they are living a correctChristian life. He wanted insight from a specific group of people and you broadened the entire subject for the sake of argument.

Im not attacking you, so please dont see it as that. I just think its unnecessary to bring those comments into this SPECIFIC thread. Its equivalent to goinginto a thread full of vegetarians who are speaking to each other and saying "I eat meat, does that mean Im inconsiderate and I hate the environment?"

You bring up a flaw in many people who are Christians- Actually, many people who are religious period. I fail to understand why you would mention this though.If I posted in a thread about practicing Muslims and criticize all who practice Islam because of the fools in the Middle East who use the word of theQ'uran to justify their terrorism, wouldnt you be offended or puzzled? No matter what you will always see a group of people within a group that takeadvantage of certain things or have bad intentions.

If none of those people are present in this thread, then why even bring it up?

 

[springfieldxd]

i feel the same way alot, between the blunts and jumpoffs, i grow further away from God, then try to get back close.

it's like a cycle to me.

 

[HEATHEN]

Originally Posted by AgentArenas

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by hella handsome

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by hella handsome

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by wrukus

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by wrukus

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by cameltrophy24

Christianity is a touchy subject, especially here on NT. people don't take it serious and think it's a big joke. i'm a Christian, i was saved at the age of 22. i've been feeling like you have here lately. the devil will work hard to get you to fall, and then when you're down, he'll jump on your back and not let you up. it's been one thing after another for me. part of it is my fault, and part of it i don't understand. you can't let these things get you down, and keep you down. it's hard being a Christian in today's world, you've done more than most would. admitting Christ died for our sins. just keep your head up, pray, and resist the devil. stay stong brother, it's not an easy road.

Is it hard? Really?

I haven't noticed...

Most Christians that I've met are fine with just a few hail mary's and our fathers as "repentance" for their sins. Heck most of them haven't read a verse from the Bible and believe that simply believing Christ as the lamb of God is enough to be forgiven for all sins both past present and future.


Its a false sense of security, it takes more than just that to save you Christian or not.....


You want real advice? Follow that gut feeling, its called your conscience, if you're going against it you're doing it wrong....You know how to be a good man...

you know when there's a thread and some christian dude comes in posting a bunch of religious views and pisses everyone off? right now sneaker heathen is that dude. only the tables are turned. the op was obviously asking CHRISTIANS for A CHRISTIAN'S point of view. your religious or anti christian arguments are not even close to answering what the thread is asking. nowadays it seems that some atheists, agnostics, and other non christians do way more preaching and argument starting than christians ever did. op, i hope you find what you need.

So now I'm anti christian?

Okay.


This is NT not ChristiansforChristians.org....

I'm going to keep it 100 till then...

the thread was directed to christians. you chose to chime in with a view point that was not asked for. its like going to the cdp 11 12 thread and talking about fushions. just looking for an argument. call it what you want. if that's keepin it 100, then more power to you.

Not looking for an argument, but OP opened a can of worms....


As a Muslim, (religious views aside) I believe anyone whom is a GOOD person. A SELFLESS person, a person whom has done good throughout his life, God fearing or not I cannot believe he is Hell bound....


I SIMPLY CAN'T...


With that said, It boggles my mind that so many Christians can basically straight up tell me that I'm hellbound because I don't believe Christ is the lamb of God.....

so... if he's asking for help from his fellow christians, and youre muslim.... why are you in here thread-jacking?
the OP didnt open a can of worms, you brought the worms in. The OP didnt make the thread ot start controversy. If you knew that this was a controvercial topic and trouble could be started, wouldnt it be common sense to not start trouble? thats like saying "ohman that register is open and not being watched, let me take the money!" even though you know taking the money is wrong. Even though you know trouble could be started from starting an argument... you do it anyway.

Christianity teaches you that you cannot get to the father without believing in his son. so doesnt that make it obvious that you cannot make it to heaven if you dont believe in Jesus? i mean... come on... obviously thats what it means. you can be the nicest person on earth, but if you dont believe in the son of God, you still wont make it without faith.

and to the OP, it sounds like you need to re-commit your faith. make more of an effort to walk the right path everyday. i know how you are feeling too because i find myself in that same place. it isnt easy, but when you have God on your side, nothing is too hard fam. just keep pressing on and when things get too hard or when you feel like you are taking 2 steps back instead of 2 steps forward just call on God. he will help you through anything man.

stay up.

If I didn't make my comments someone else eventually would have, welcome to NT...


Obviously I know what the bible is implying, I just wanted to know how some NTers feel about it. I think its funny you can condemn someone to an eternity of hellfire even if they we're good people all their life....




So by that logic, a bad person with alot of faith has a better chance of getting to heaven than Ghandi....


Hmmm, if thats not cause for debate I don't know what is.

I know what it is, you don't want me to speak on it because you know damn well something is wrong with your logic....I don't believe a righteous God would damn a good person....Muslim or not, Christian or not, Jewish or not....

how do you figure? a bad person is a bad person either way at the end of the day and they will have to answer to the father for their sins whether they have faith or not. so your "bad person with faith has a better chance of blah blah..." standpoint is flawed.

its easy to tell who actually has knowledge of a religion, and who just knows what they hear about a religion. because if you read the bible and understand what its saying, your responses wouldnt be "well i think a God that does this wouldnt do..." or "i dont believe a God would do..." because you would already know what he would do.

I can tell you for a FACT that MY God promised me eternal life for believing in his son Jesus Christ. i dont THINK it, i KNOW it.
he doesnt promise eternal life for just being a good person. half the work wont get you the full reward.

you need to study up more on a religion before you go pointing fingers trying to make a point.

i dont know anything about being a muslim. i only know how to follow Christ. so i wouldnt go and point out things in your religion to make it sound like you are dumb for following it. everytime Christianity is brought up on NT, someone walks in talking as if they know EVERYTHING about it, when most of the time, they dont know a damn thing. and they all sound the same. stating personal opinions as if they were fact, they themselves probably never opened a bible. its ignorant, and in reality, they speak about christian always sounding so high and mighty when its really them. ignorance

ignorance is poison.

And btw, if bad people are still bad people then why do so many bad people whom happen to be Christian go around acting like their @(#* don't stink and all will be forgiven? You're acting like Christians don't act like that, and there are PLENTY whom do....Thats what I've been saying, you want to twist and stretch my words go ahead, don't expect me to take you seriously though.

Honestly, I don't understand why you are asking this here. You bring up a valid argument, but its not relevant to this thread. OP was addressing a question to "Those who live a Christian Life". Not CHRISTIANS, but those who believe that on some level they are living a correct Christian life. He wanted insight from a specific group of people and you broadened the entire subject for the sake of argument.

Im not attacking you, so please dont see it as that. I just think its unnecessary to bring those comments into this SPECIFIC thread. Its equivalent to going into a thread full of vegetarians who are speaking to each other and saying "I eat meat, does that mean Im inconsiderate and I hate the environment?"

You bring up a flaw in many people who are Christians- Actually, many people who are religious period. I fail to understand why you would mention this though. If I posted in a thread about practicing Muslims and criticize all who practice Islam because of the fools in the Middle East who use the word of the Q'uran to justify their terrorism, wouldnt you be offended or puzzled? No matter what you will always see a group of people within a group that take advantage of certain things or have bad intentions.

If none of those people are present in this thread, then why even bring it up?

Because OP said something that brought up the subject to me, as I said before. This is NT, threads rarely stay the course.

Also why does it have to be a Christian thing only? What does living right have to do with being Christian? Anybody of any religion (or the lack there of) whomhas a conscience can help another person become a better person....


Why alienate yourself from everyones opinion? This isn't a christian oriented website so why segregate topics?

And I never singled out all Christians, I said many, not all....

If you want to make that inference, I can't stop you. Its just incorrect, and erroneous.

 

[jthagreat]

"you're looking for 2 cents but you're going to end with change for a hundred. "

I like that.

 

[niketalker23]

Originally Posted by ericberry14


I quoted this because this shows how Muslims are more than just good people, it shows how they actually strive to do good int he community, to help their fellow man, to spread the word of Allah.

But according to Christians they wont make it to heaven because they dont believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, even if they were the most truly religious person & had done an incredible amount of good in the world, & had a genuine relationship with god. Just because they feel that Jesus Christ wasnt the Son of God they wont get into heaven.

I honestly cant imagine that if there is a God that he would seriously keep people out of heaven because of that.

Also sidenote why does the Catholic church have things locked away in the vatican that are kept away from the everyday christian,what do they have to hide

I was born into a Catholic family but consider myself a non-denominational Christian. My sister is a Seventh-Day Adventist and always tell me thatpeople who do not believe Jesus is the son of god will not get into heaven Christian or not. I have a hard time comprehending this. Born into a very devoutCatholic family I know what it's like growing up being taught that a certain religion or belief system is right and that the others are wrong. It'shard and almost impossible to go against what you're taught being raised. I pray to god a lot and something that's always in my prayers is for god tonot hold anything against good people who are of another religion. I don't like going around saying that what I believe is right and what other believe iswrong because we are all raised differently. I hope god knows that and I hope all good people christian or not get into heaven because like I said, Iunderstand how hard is it to go against what you're taught.

As far as the Catholic church goes, they do hide a lot. They have too much influence in the world and the pope should not be living like a kings when there isso much famine in the world. Is Jesus was on earth he would be completely against how the pope lives.

 

[jthagreat]

Originally Posted by Plan Beats

Religion divides.

aint that the truth.

 

[HEATHEN]

Originally Posted by Ghenges

SneakerHeathen hates Jesus

If the Giants lose today, you'll know why.

I'm going to kill you

.....

 

[loveofthegame916]

did the OP ever get the encouragement he needs? Y'all need to save all that religion debate for another thread man. Thread jackin turkeys

 

[socaking]

I believe anyone whom is a GOOD person. A SELFLESS person, a person whom has done good throughout his life, God fearing or not I cannot believe he is Hell bound....
I like that


What you guys fail to undertand is that this is the internet. I can say what I want, when I want, how I want. And no thread title topic will stop me. I Expectothers to act the same. This is religion on NT.....yall act so surprised in EACH NEW THREAD. It will end locked with Ska making some points and whatnot. ItsALWAYS going to be like this with religous topics, get over it.

Although some people say we should stick to OP's original question, alot of you would rather attack SneakerHeathen

Just today it hit me that I've been running away from God. I've been saved since I was a little boy, but still I fall and stumble knowingly. I'm just really tired of the same old. I want more. I want to feel free, and know it. I want to know that God is there with me at all times with my best interest at heart. I "know" these things, but I don't know and feel these things like I ought because of how I'm living. I just feel like I'm distancing myself from God.
Maybe you should stop trying so hard? You might find the answer when you stop searching. I dont know im not even religious

 

[fifthname]

SneakerHeathen

Noone is saying they disagree with you and noone is acting "holier than thou". The point is you came into a thread w one of thefirst few posts and brought up a point that has NOTHING to do with the topic. It's called thread jacking my man. You've been here long enough, if youcant grasp this concept, then idk what else to say. And

@ using the fact that sometimes threads go off course to justify the way you're acting. @ theend of the day, your comments werent needed in this thread.

 

[jsindaa]

Honestly how I feel right now is that Christianity(wholly as a religion) is bull...and there are alot of inconsistencies. I have found it harder and harder tofollow some of the things I'm taught in church...yet it's getting easier to combine my religious beliefs with things I've learned growing up tomake decisions. I haven't really told anyone (parents, pastor, friends, etc.) about this because...honestly I already know what they are going to tell me.One of the main things thats bothering me is my girls religion. Shes muslim I'm christian...we have talked about it and IF we were to get married, havekids, etc...we pretty much agreed on introducing both religions and letting the child choose instead of forcing one. The only problem is my family(allchristian) most importantly my mother is going to look down on that. Some of my friends will too....it's getting to a point where I feel almost likeI'm wrong for being with her. But she's the most honest down to earth girl I've ever met....and she doesn't believe the same things I do.Really at a point where I don't know what to do...which is one of the main reasons I have a problem with the religion...or any religion for that fact. TheMAIN thing christianity preaches is how much God loves everyone...yet in the same breath will condemn others for the stupidest things...for example Apostolics,COGIC, and Baptist. All believe the same exact thing...yet because of how a name is said during baptism....are different. Stupid. Just dumb...I'm reallytrying to figure out if I'm too far gone and I've just lost touch...or am I just getting wiser.

 

[feelmode]

I must be going to hell because reading some of the crap you christians write makes me want to put my hands around your neck and slap some sense into you.

So far i just read that someone doesnt "think", but they "know" they have eternal life, god promised them, its a "fact" btw

Genuinely good people, will live eternally in hell because they think the idea of Jesus being "god's son" is laughable

Whatever, if you are christian thats great, if it makes you live a better life then thats awesome, if you were "saved" due to christianity becauseyour life was headed in the wrong direction then thats wonderful. Here comes the "but" though, Why must yall use words like "fact" and"know"? Nothing you speak of is "fact" and none of you "know" anything.

The Human mind is very powerful, and because of that you can trick yourself into thinking things that arent necessarily a reality to be so. I cant tell you howmany people have sat there and told me with a straight face that they have conversations with God. Now there is one thing that i "know", and thatsthat none of you have ever had a conversation with God, that is simply false and if you truly believe so then i dont even know what to tell you.

You guys have heard about how pathological liars sometimes lie so much they believe their own lies right? Well this is no different, that is just the power ofthe Human Mind. It becomes increasingly easy to believe what you tell yourself over and over and over to be true. Im not blaming a single one of you, you areall just doing and believing in what you have been taught. Many of you taught by the most influential people in your lives, your parents. Your parents are onlyteaching what they were taught and so on and so on the cycle continues.



Oh and to the OP, feeling down and out? Go do some volunteer work for people far less fortunate then you are. Go put a smile on a childs face, you will besurprised at how good that makes you feel.

 

[fifthname]

@ feelmode rolling smileys @ the believes of others? Funny. Personally, im not a religious person. But you're not going to catch me belittling the ideasof others. Thats childish. You're not saying anything these religious folks havent heard before, so please dont think you're showing them the light.

 

[iiceman83]

Why are you christians in here indulging your selves in materialistic things then complain about not feeling 'christiany" enough. Get off of NT and goread read the bible.
But dont forget to check out the BIG BOOTY thread before you go

 

[springfieldxd]

Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by Ghenges

SneakerHeathen hates Jesus

If the Giants lose today, you'll know why.

I'm going to kill you

.....

its like they willingly lost

but i'ma give my life over to God, as soon as I get off these bricks

 

[feelmode]

Originally Posted by FifthName

@ feelmode rolling smileys @ the believes of others? Funny. Personally, im not a religious person. But you're not going to catch me belittling the ideas of others. Thats childish. You're not saying anything these religious folks havent heard before, so please dont think you're showing them the light.

Im sorry, but if someone thinks that they are going to live in eternity, then

You can call it what you want it but that is laughable. Faith is just that, "faith" and where i am all for people having faith in something, therecomes a time when one needs to be realistic as well.
And the idea that someone who lives a good life, a life that does more for other people, a person that helps other human beings, and might live a far less sinindulged life then say a christian. The idea that, that person would some how spend eternity in the fire pits of hell because they dont believe in theteachings of the bible is disgusting to me and a rolling smiley is me putting it nicely.

 

[ericberry14]

Originally Posted by FeelMode

Originally Posted by FifthName

@ feelmode rolling smileys @ the believes of others? Funny. Personally, im not a religious person. But you're not going to catch me belittling the ideas of others. Thats childish. You're not saying anything these religious folks havent heard before, so please dont think you're showing them the light.

And the idea that someone who lives a good life, a life that does more for other people, a person that helps other human beings, and might live a far less sin indulged life then say a christian. The idea that, that person would some how spend eternity in the fire pits of hell because they dont believe in the teachings of the bible is disgusting to me and a rolling smiley is me putting it nicely.

that right there is what i hate about the majority of religions.

 

[antbanks81]

I am a Christian, but I am also still growing. You already have the roots, you just need to set that time and grow. God knows our hearts and knows that we haveaccepted Him. You just have to make the decision to do away with some of the things you're doing that you feel cause you to take a step or two backward.None of us are perfect, we just have to have faith and strive to be better.

And don't worry about those that don't believe, if they don't they should stay away from the post.

A lot of time I feel like I need to change some of my ways. I'm not a bad person but there are some things of the flesh that we just need more strength toavoid. I just got off cigarettes like 3 months ago. It takes time fam!

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Originally Posted by Ghenges

SneakerHeathen hates Jesus

If the Giants lose today, you'll know why.

 

[fifthname]

Originally Posted by FeelMode

Originally Posted by FifthName

@ feelmode rolling smileys @ the believes of others? Funny. Personally, im not a religious person. But you're not going to catch me belittling the ideas of others. Thats childish. You're not saying anything these religious folks havent heard before, so please dont think you're showing them the light.

Im sorry, but if someone thinks that they are going to live in eternity, then

You can call it what you want it but that is laughable. Faith is just that, "faith" and where i am all for people having faith in something, there comes a time when one needs to be realistic as well.
And the idea that someone who lives a good life, a life that does more for other people, a person that helps other human beings, and might live a far less sin indulged life then say a christian. The idea that, that person would some how spend eternity in the fire pits of hell because they dont believe in the teachings of the bible is disgusting to me and a rolling smiley is me putting it nicely.

Okay, but some people actually do believe that. There are very important people in this world who believe that. I'm not saying it's true, but who areyou to say it isn't? Can you explain how we all got here? No you cant, so one way of thinking about it is just as valid as the next one. Obviously, a lotof stuff when it comes to the bible seems far fetched, and probably is, but maybe it's not. Truthfully, in my opinion, religion is a just a way to scarepeople into acting right. Unfortunately, it seems to do more bad then good. At the end of the day, you'll never see me come into a thread putting down thebelieves of others. If you disagree, do it with class, not multiple rolling smilies.

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Originally Posted by FifthName

Originally Posted by FeelMode

Originally Posted by FifthName

@ feelmode rolling smileys @ the believes of others? Funny. Personally, im not a religious person. But you're not going to catch me belittling the ideas of others. Thats childish. You're not saying anything these religious folks havent heard before, so please dont think you're showing them the light.

Im sorry, but if someone thinks that they are going to live in eternity, then

You can call it what you want it but that is laughable. Faith is just that, "faith" and where i am all for people having faith in something, there comes a time when one needs to be realistic as well.
And the idea that someone who lives a good life, a life that does more for other people, a person that helps other human beings, and might live a far less sin indulged life then say a christian. The idea that, that person would some how spend eternity in the fire pits of hell because they dont believe in the teachings of the bible is disgusting to me and a rolling smiley is me putting it nicely.

Okay, but some people actually do believe that. There are very important people in this world who believe that. I'm not saying it's true, but who are you to say it isn't? Can you explain how we all got here? No you cant, so one way of thinking about it is just as valid as the next one. Obviously, a lot of stuff when it comes to the bible seems far fetched, and probably is, but maybe it's not. Truthfully, in my opinion, religion is a just a way to scare people into acting right. Unfortunately, it seems to do more bad then good. At the end of the day, you'll never see me come into a thread putting down the believes of others. If you disagree, do it with class, not multiple rolling smilies.

believe. They don't know. And that's the point

 

[fifthname]

^ But neither does anyone else. That's my point.

 

[coolgraygrey]

I feel good.

Being a Christian has helped me incredibly in my life. Staying away from worldly temptation, having a large community of believers, it is excellent. I'mactually reading the entire bible this year, and it is really quite interesting and neat. I like knowing that I am reading a book that will only help my lifetenfold, and improve my relationship with the world and with God.

But I will tell you that a couple months or so ago, I felt like I had lost a connection with God. It was very disheartening and hurt my soul. But I tried, andprayed, and prayed some more, and finally I'm starting to grow back into a relationship with him.

For the life of me, I cannot remember what the specific bible verse is, but I do remember reading that a Believer in Christ, though he may fall, he knows wherehis strength lies, and will rise again. He may fall one hundred times, but will surely rise again because he knows what is right.

Don't be so hard on yourself man! Pray to God and ask for forgiveness and guidance and he will help you!

 

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Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Originally Posted by ericberry14


I quoted this because this shows how Muslims are more than just good people, it shows how they actually strive to do good int he community, to help their fellow man, to spread the word of Allah.

But according to Christians they wont make it to heaven because they dont believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God, even if they were the most truly religious person & had done an incredible amount of good in the world, & had a genuine relationship with god. Just because they feel that Jesus Christ wasnt the Son of God they wont get into heaven.

I honestly cant imagine that if there is a God that he would seriously keep people out of heaven because of that.

Also sidenote why does the Catholic church have things locked away in the vatican that are kept away from the everyday christian,what do they have to hide

I was born into a Catholic family but consider myself a non-denominational Christian. My sister is a Seventh-Day Adventist and always tell me that people who do not believe Jesus is the son of god will not get into heaven Christian or not. I have a hard time comprehending this. Born into a very devout Catholic family I know what it's like growing up being taught that a certain religion or belief system is right and that the others are wrong. It's hard and almost impossible to go against what you're taught being raised. I pray to god a lot and something that's always in my prayers is for god to not hold anything against good people who are of another religion. I don't like going around saying that what I believe is right and what other believe is wrong because we are all raised differently. I hope god knows that and I hope all good people christian or not get into heaven because like I said, I understand how hard is it to go against what you're taught.

As far as the Catholic church goes, they do hide a lot. They have too much influence in the world and the pope should not be living like a kings when there is so much famine in the world. Is Jesus was on earth he would be completely against how the pope lives.

You my friend are one of the only christians I respect.

I wish more of your brethren thought like you do. My hats off to ya