- Dec 9, 2002
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Probably better off getting a note and a cheap tablet. And the fold would be od chunky in the pocket.
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darthska
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Is the Note 20 Ultra a new rendition of the Note? Did previous Notes have an Ultra? Reason I am asking: when I'm looking at Note 20 Ultra cases on Amazon, is there any possibility that I might get the wrong one? Just double checking. Obviously most listings for phone cases specify things like 'Make sure you have the 2020 Note 20 Ultra', or other wording to make sure the seller is getting the right thing. I was just wondering if the Ultra is a new rendition.
- Dec 9, 2002
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Bruh if it says note 20 ultra I'm certain that's the correct case.
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Best phone I've ever had. Can't wait for the Fold 2.
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https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/12/...rface-duo-release-date-pricing-features-specs
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I kinda want one.
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MICROSOFT’S SURFACE DUO ARRIVES ON SEPTEMBER 10TH FOR $1,399
Preorders for Microsoft’s Android phone start today
MicrosoftMicrosoft is launching its Surface Duo dual-screen Android phone on September 10th, priced from $1,399. After months of Microsoft executives teasing the device on Twitter, the company is now allowing anyone to preorder the Surface Duo today in the US. Preorders will be available at AT&T, Microsoft’s online store, and Best Buy.
While Microsoft had revealed the design of the Surface Duo back in October, the company has kept the specs relatively secret. The device includes two separate 5.6-inch OLED displays (1800 x 1350) with a 4:3 aspect ratio that connect together to form a 8.1-inch overall workspace (2700 x 1800) with a 3:2 aspect ratio. Unlike foldables like Samsung’s Galaxy Fold, the Surface Duo is using real Gorilla Glass, and the displays are designed to work in a similar way to multiple monitors on a Windows PC.
One big question over the Surface Duo has been the camera. Microsoft is using an 11-megapixel f/2.0 camera, which will include auto modes for low light, HDR multi-frame captures, and a “super zoom” up to 7x. Both 4K and 1080p video recording will be supported at 30fps and 60fps, with electronic image stabilization. There’s only a single camera on the Surface Duo, which can be used both for video calls and as a main camera.
The Surface Duo also supports Microsoft’s Surface pens.
The basic Surface Duo hardware also consists of a Qualcomm Snapdragon 855, 6GB of RAM, and up to 256GB of storage. LTE is available on T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon, but there’s no 5G support at all. Microsoft is also shipping a bumper cover in the box, designed to protect the Duo.
Microsoft is also including two batteries in the Surface Duo, split beneath both displays. Overall there’s 3577mAh of capacity, which is considerably less than the 4500mAh found on Samsung’s single-screen Note 20 Ultra and even the 4380mAh on the original Galaxy Fold. Despite this, Microsoft is promising “all day battery life,” which means up to 15.5 hours of local video playback, up to 10 days of standby time, and up to 27 hours of talk time. We’ll need to fully test the device during our review, but the capacity here does leave a little cause for concern as the device is powering two screens, not one.
“It’s probably one of the sexiest devices we’ve ever built,” says Windows and devices chief Panos Panay in a press briefing ahead of today’s launch. “It does things that single-screen devices can’t do, period.” Panay’s vision for the Surface Duo is to improve productivity on the go, and Microsoft has also been doing some interesting work on the software side to compliment the hardware.
Android apps on the Surface Duo.
Any Android app will run on the Duo without modification, thanks to the choice of two separate displays. “Any app has to run,” says Panay, and it was obviously important to support everything Android from day one. Developers can also optimize the layouts of their apps to really take advantage of the two displays and span across them. Microsoft has tweaked its own apps like the Office suite and OneDrive to span the displays, and third parties like Amazon have also done work on the Kindle app to make it feel like you’re reading a book by flicking pages across the two screens.
Microsoft is also using algorithms to predict how to open apps on different displays. “There is an algorithm in there that’s very smart and trying to be predictive,” explains Panay. “If you’re on one screen and you’re invoking a link, it will fill the other screen.”
ANY ANDROID APP WILL RUN ON THE SURFACE DUO
The end result is that if you click a link in an email app on one screen, it will open on the other so you can continue to read the email side by side with a webpage. Apps like Microsoft Teams and PowerPoint are also optimized so you can see a video call and the rest of your Teams chat, or look at a full slide and the rest of the deck simultaneously.
Microsoft has been working closely with Google on Android for the Surface Duo. “It was interesting at first,” says Panay, referring to the initial days of the partnership. “It was a bit of a head scratcher. Satya and I had a lot of conversations.” Microsoft had to go with Android for the pure reason of mobile apps, especially after Windows Phone failed in the market.
The Surface Duo bumper included in the box.
“Microsoft has to light up on every platform,” says Panay. “We had a conversation with Google… the partnership has been crazy fun. I think at first there’s a little bit of getting to know each other, but then very quickly we saw what’s right for our customer and what can be possible. I think it’s great for Google and Android, and I think it’s great for Microsoft.”
Microsoft has created APIs for dual-screen apps to work in the Android codebase, and it plans to upstream them for other manufacturers and third parties to use. It’s part of a broader push to make dual-screen and foldable devices a reality, and Panay is very much a believer in this future. “I believe that two screens are coming, I think they’re needed.” It will be interesting to see how developers adapt their Android apps here, and it’s key to the overall success of dual-screen or foldable devices in general.
Price will be a sticking point for Surface Duo, just as it was for the Galaxy Fold and other devices that will try to usher in a foldable or dual-screen future. A lack of 5G and NFC, questions over battery life, and the camera quality will all need to be addressed in our Surface Duo review, but Microsoft is clearly at the start of a future it believes in. You’ll have to pay a price to be part of that initially.
The real question will be how well Surface Duo, and devices like it, improve productivity on the go, and whether two mobile screens is truly needed. These devices will ultimately require some hardware advances to really pull off the vision. But if consumers agree with Microsoft, Samsung, and others that two screens are better than one then we’re witnessing the future being built. If not, we’re witnessing unique attempts to try and reshape mobile devices. At the very least, mobile phones are suddenly getting exciting again. As Panay would say, we’re pumped to see where this all goes.
I kinda want one.
- Dec 25, 2012
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Got my whitesone dome glass screen protector and spigen case for the Ultra already, hoping samsung send the phones out early. I dont think my S20 Ultra shipped early though even though my past phones did.
darthska
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Going w/ this case:
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Man i only go with otterbox's.
darthska
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^ I don't see one with a built-in screen protector. That's huge for me.
- Jan 18, 2006
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I haven't had an issue without it. I have dropped this note directly on the glass and have had no cracks.
- Aug 10, 2003
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OtterBox might be a better case for you since you had the active phone and like to drop it a lot
darthska
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Which one do you have?
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I have the note 10 with the otterbox defender series case.
Already ordered this one for the note 20 ultra.
Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G Defender Series Pro Case
Black Defender Series Pro is the rugged Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G case from OtterBox that delivers professional-grade protection and lasting antimicrobial defense.
www.otterbox.com
sonoftony
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- Apr 3, 2005
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That note deal is very very tempting but I'm not sure if its worth giving up the OP7 Pro. My old *** Note5 isn't even worth $60 
6 Rings G.O.A.T.
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darthska
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"Little unboxing knife..."
Man, WHAT?
Issa carving knife!
Like what was buddy doing before this, skinning a deer?
Man, WHAT?
Issa carving knife!
Like what was buddy doing before this, skinning a deer?
- Mar 5, 2005
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All those YouTubers unbox these products with oversized-*** knives, it almost seems trendy at this point."Little unboxing knife..."
Man, WHAT?
Issa carving knife!
- Jan 18, 2006
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Hope they got a good deal on this come black Friday. Nice. I still have the gear S3. Time to upgrade.
- Jan 3, 2013
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"Little unboxing knife..."
Man, WHAT?
Issa carving knife!
must be your first time watching "your boy FLOSS!"
darthska
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^ It is. Does he have a Lambo and call it a bucket? Stomping in some game worn Jordans talking about 'Let me throw on these beaters real quick...'?
Nike Jordan
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All those YouTubers unbox these products with oversized-*** knives, it almost seems trendy at this point.
- Dec 9, 2002
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Applied for a position as a Samsung trainer. Thought for sure it was Mobile, turns out it's home theater smh it pays well so I'm not trippin
- Jul 22, 2012
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Kinda disappointed in the note 20 ultra. 4500 mah battery with a 25 watt charger? come on.
The Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra blows the note out the water
The Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra blows the note out the water
- Feb 8, 2009
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At first I didn't understand your complaint; last year's Note came with whatever it came with but you could buy a 45w charger if you wanted something better.
After some quick Googles, they entirely removed 45w charger support from the Note 20 series 
After some quick Googles, they entirely removed 45w charger support from the Note 20 series
- Mar 11, 2008
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I preordered the note 20 ultra in a tmobile store will i still be able to get the samsung pre order credit even though i didnt directly order it on Samsung website?
