We could agree that Papoose can't flow too well...

[soulofkuribo]

but let's be real, you can't deny that he is mad nice. He has corny punchlines sometimes but for the most part he is on point. If he sharpened up hisflow he could be a real problem. Of course not in the main stream cause that's pop hip-hop, but a elite underground emcee. Here's some lyrics from somerecent tracks, I'm sure the older stuff is way better but I don't have those.

A track where he outshined Nas. Flawless verse :

Don't you ever try to stop the uprisin of a Kingdom
I got enough bars to take away your@#%@!%% freedom
My arms long enough to box the devil I could beat him
If his arms long enough to box God I'm a weave him
He wanna learn he's starvin for knowledge I'm a feed 'em
But if he wise I'm hungry for for knowledge I'm a eat 'em
If you was manifestin all them lessons that you readin
You would even believe in the teachings that you preachin
Heathens sneak even left leakin in the beacon
The gangs peeped him they In Living Color like Keenen
And hell I ain't talkin about breathin
Stupid why you reachin my hand stay on the pound like Lincoln
I'm powerful you weaklin, the firin pen went to the spring
Summer, fall like the seasons in your region
Papoose and Nas is a legion
Everything happens for a reason, have a good evenin

From Sharades. Recommend you listen, if you haven't already:

Can you recognize a cop when his clothes is plain?
You gotta identify him it's like a game of sharades
Take a loan from a bank, I'm borrowing money
I take a loan from my homey's, I'm laundering money
Called the narcotic cops when I sold my dimes
Called the gun boys on me when I toted my nine
Now I hold a microphone is you out of your mind?
Hip-hop police is hip-hop a crime?
Freedom of speech y'all think so evil
Rather give freedom to my speech than give freedom to my people
Instead of watching us you should of watched Ground Zero
Schwarzenegger killing in movies but he a hero
To all of the rappers we gotta stay in cognito
To do it our way like Carlito
Cause they want us thinking their way
If everybody lived their life the same way
We'd all meet our makers the same day

My pc is in the process of being Re-formated so I don't have access to most of my Pap+%+!. If you do contribute, I think Pastor Troy is up on Papoose.

 

[og_Rodney]

Pap's buzz is gone now. I used to be hyped for him, but Nacirema Dream doesn't look like it's coming out any time soon.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Yea he is a beast I thought dude would've been great for hip hop(still do). The window is closed unless this next mixtape is legendary and nothing short ofit, it has to be better than anything I ever heard from dude cuz without a label and ya album done shh is hard if you aint keepin a buzz plus he dealin withthese next type of dudes tryin to get at him

I never had a problem with dudes flow but I wouldn't mind if he came back with a new flow the way Cam did.

Lyricism and life guns and roses
Rob execs take the pennies out your loafers
A lot of rappers but papoose the dopest
Supercalifragilisticexpealadocious
Lyricism and life guns and roses
Jack Maybachs blow the brains out your chauffeurs
A lot of rappers, papoose the dopest
Supercalifragilisticexpealadocious

My live crew pop like guy moo pop advise you pop
Wise new plots I ride through blocks and find new spots
Nah-uh you not uh-huh you watch
When I hop out the dread be like, "Man don't do dat"
Get lined up like five roof tops I +*$% two glocks
Find you behind new locks 'cause papoose got
Two knots inside two socks few rocks inside shoe box
You got two hot blocks who block you got
You dropped, you dropped you hot you not you popped you flop
you got to stop hops you not Tupac
Chew shots through blocks since doowop pop and koolats
Every last one of you ni--az could eat the ooh wop
I stack money while you spending your dough
I must-stash like the hair between your lip and your nose
Never partied always ran with the mothers
The only Summer Jam I ever had, was if my gun jammed in the summer
+*$% the Uzi
Chip a nickel and diamond for a loosey
You coming through shining like we 'aint riding for the Louchey
Homie none of your diamonds don't induce me
'Cause yo I put blood on your ice, and turn your diamonds into rubies
Kill intent, catch my enemy at a big event
Watching while he party in advance of getting bent
Soon as he try to use the bathroom I'm slipping in
Sending guns smoke through the vents
I'ma add something stupid like, can I buy one of your cigarettes
Put the burner under his chin and leave the ceiling wet
They incorrect, ni--az spending money to get respect
They don't know the way to get respect is disrespect
How you cut a ni--a in the face to get a rep
Real gangsters cut him in his neck
And if you catch an attempt murder that don't mean you a bigger threat
That just means you 'aint no motherf---ing killer yet
My pistol send you to death
Rip through your Mitchell and Ness
Like car dealers you hit the deck
They hit your man with the Smith and Wess
Dump shots all in a@%*$@+ chest
You could see his bones he missing flesh
Stead of getting a gun, you run and go get a vest

Ni--az tore your man out the frame and you 'aint get the picture yet?
Dope fiends lined up making the strip a mess
That dope got them fiends online like the Internet
They tried to come on my block selling that f---ing boy
Ni--a my gun got fire like its unemployed
Say send me out the semi out they let me out I'm focused
Dessies out the holsters
Empty out the 4-5th
If I was a blood, I split the C like I'm Moses
Supercalifragilisticexpealahoeless

- Gunz n Rosez

That right there is excellence, for dudes really hatin on his flow you know he'd be a great ghost writer(should be writin for Wayne

) If dude ever gets it together for '08 it'll be a problem hip hop wise

 

[soulofkuribo]

Sweet contribution Buddha, if you got some old classic Pap mind sharing?

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

^ What you mean more lyrics or audio? I have all 19 mixtapes

(I'll be editting this post)

Don't you ever try to stop the uprisin of a Kingdom
I got enough bars to take away your!%%$%%+ freedom
My arms long enough to box the devil I could beat him
If his arms long enough to box God I'm a weave him
He wanna learn he's starvin for knowledge I'm a feed 'em
But if he wise I'm hungry for for knowledge I'm a heat 'em
If you was manifestin all them lessons that you readin
You would even believe in the teachings that you preachin
Heathens sneak even left leakin in the beacon
The gangs peeped him they In Living Color like Keenen
And hell I ain't talkin about breathin
Stupid why you reachin my hand stay on the pound like Lincoln
I'm powerful you weaklin, the firin pen went to the spring
Summer, fall like the seasons in your region
Papoose and Nas is a legion
Everything happens for a reason, have a good evenin

- Across the Track

 

[nyvictory45]

I agree. His flow is not good at all.

 

[witeout73]

Damn 19?! I'm slippin. I thought I was doing it with 11 tapes...smh

 

[born to be fly]

Pap is that dude.

 

[lex rockhead]

I dont know why dudes is always$++@%%@@ on paps flow. His flow has been ok on every song ive heard him on.

 

[superblytrife]

I like Pap, but damn....I never knew he had NINETEEN mixtapes. Yeah, without a doubt, I think we can say his window of opportunity to blow on a major label islong gone.

 

[skip2mylou23]

I like Pap's flow. It may not be the best but it's good enough to listen to him.

 

[throwback1718]

i listened to a song of his last night and was llike damn ge jus sounds like he spit and didnt listen to the beat just like spoken word.. readin a poem

but i said he could make heavy $$ ghost writing... if hes not doin that already

 

[free the chief]

I can't LISTEN to dude for shh, but this is a pretty good post to read.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

True To This %**!
Don't give ME NO LIP, I got my hand on that MENO GRIP
Papoose packing strong carrying THREE FOUR FIFTH's
Nobody move I'm a roll it off your FEET ON THIS
Head crack head crack CEE-LO SIX
Don't start no %**! won't BE NO QUIT
If you stuttered or not is going to BE SOME *$+%$
Stop telling me what kind of deal HE GOIN GET
That ni--a drool on the track dog HE DON'T SPIT
You ni--az copy my style on some KINKO %**!
Your two shots on some FREE THROW %**!
One minute these rappers hungry the next minute HE SO RICH
Til you give him a knuckle sandwich make him EAT YO FIST
HE SOLD ZIP talkin bout HE SOLD SIX
Your album was a brick like a KILO *$+%$
I don't understand what kind of ni--az HE ROLL WIT
You keep getting robbed and you don't know who THIEFED YO %**!
How you think your man got up on his FEET SO QUICK
You God damn dummy it BE YO CLICK
Heard them ni--az crept up on you on some LILO %**!
Emptied on your whole ride swiss CHEESED YO WHIP
He emptied his whole gun and you ain't SQUEEZE YO %**!
A@$!+@$ empty on me better RELOAD QUICK
His stomach louder then his mouth when he SPEAK THOU FLIP
Cause we don't FEED NO SNITCH
The DA think SHE SO SLICK, A conniving and EVIL CHICK
Talking about the RICO law INCREASE THOSE RISK
If papi throw'em I'm a KEEP THOSE BRICKS
And mother**** the RICO law you gotta suck my BICHO *$+%$
Gold diggers they don't wanna give a G NO KISS
When you get money they ready to DRINK YO PISS
I lost one of them broads to some MENO TRICK
Heard he be taking her out on CASINO TRIPS
Get her hair done bout to cop a MENO WHIP
Every other day he give her about THREE FOUR CHIPS
I guess that's why she don't want to be with ME NO %**!
All I gave her was hard **** and CHICO STICKS
I'll carry my own work if I don't SEE NO CHICK
There ain't a$%+* that could CHEEK ALL THIS
The real recognize the real when WE SAW KISS
Papoose get straight love from Jada like HE WILL SMITH

- True to this %**!

My lyrical tendency's equivalent to a critical felony
Precise behind bars like a criminal's penalty
Pinnacle definitely, hold so much jewels in my miracle memory
It's like I'm a physical treasury
Deep into weaponry, psychotic ni--as who envy me
Wanna be nuts, so I bust nuts like my genitals sexually
Punished in my mother's stomach by swimmin through Hennessy
I was born with a difficult destiny, not your typical mentally
Givin my vision through treacheries
Syllable therapy, invincible visual energy
No artist identity resemble me, I flow like a mineral chemically
Cause I flow with a chemical chemistry
I can flow like the river through Tennessee
The mystical seventh sea, or currency at the Senegal embassy
At birth although it's umbilical regulary
They cut a mic chord and disconnected me
Leaders political threaten me for what I write in my lyrical melody
While others broke laws, I broke lyrical legacies
Flip forever, live for infinite, respect the P
It's Papoose, I conquered this caliber, next degree

- Thug Connection

Word to that poetic device thread now this is assonance

 

[illscan]

I'm not really a fan, but dude is a technician. His lyrics are precise. New school dudes are mesmerized by flow & fail to see that 90% of the timeit's all style & no substance with these dudes. A technically sound emcee will always have a solid foundation to grow on. The all style type dudes getplayed out quick. Give me Pap before Wayne any day, all day.
Let's not even get into the fact that these "hip hop" fans nowadays have no patience for technical emcees. It truly is the era of the A.D.D fan.They want their instant gratification & they want it now.

 

[bgangsta00]

maybe someone knockin some sense in him will impove his flow....

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Yeah....I mean, dude has bars for DAYS.....

But sometimes my dude starts reaching and putting %#*# together that just doens't make sense, like he's running out of rhymes....

And sometimes he ignores the beat and just goes...

 

[eddiehouse5]

dude is a technician. His lyrics are precise. New school dudes are mesmerized by flow & fail to see that 90% of the time it's all style & no substance with these dudes. A technically sound emcee will always have a solid foundation to grow on. The all style type dudes get played out quick. Give me Pap before Wayne any day, all day.
Let's not even get into the fact that these "hip hop" fans nowadays have no patience for technical emcees. It truly is the era of the A.D.D fan. They want their instant gratification & they want it now.
i agree. lyrics and substance > flow.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

What ppl dont realize is that just like Cam'ron and Wayne Pap can easily go away for awhile and develop a brand new flow that everyone would d-ride. Ithink dude is quite aware of his flow.

 

[blackmagnus514]

dude let me down. i was a HUGE fan, ignoring the lack of flow riding. SMH.

True To This+**% was

tho

 

[free the chief]

Originally Posted by iLLscan

I'm not really a fan, but dude is a technician. His lyrics are precise. New school dudes are mesmerized by flow & fail to see that 90% of the time it's all style & no substance with these dudes. A technically sound emcee will always have a solid foundation to grow on. The all style type dudes get played out quick. Give me Pap before Wayne any day, all day.
Let's not even get into the fact that these "hip hop" fans nowadays have no patience for technical emcees. It truly is the era of the A.D.D fan. They want their instant gratification & they want it now.

I definitely hear you, but to me it's a 50/50 deal. It's Bull & Rider. W/O the "flow", which is NOT to be confused with"delivery" and especially not "swagger", the lyrics lack...something... I can't call it.

I just appreciate it sooo much more when a rapper has an intricate, advanced flow. Pap got bars for days like folks said, but his flow is AABBCC and Iain't really digging that for the '08. Let's get passed the 80's people. I like when a rapper can flow and make it feel like how itlooks when Iverson is gettin some ankles, you know? I need that element. The predictability in today's rap is disgusting. I hate knowing how somebody'sgonna scheme their rhymes every...damn...time.

 

[chozin87]

I really do want to like listening to Pap, but it just doesn't sound good to me. It's kinda how I used to feel about Canibus back in the day, Icouldn't in my wildest dream say he was wack, but I really didn't want to listen. I'll always read Pap and Canibus's rhymes, but hearing themis really harsh on the ears. Papoose is the polar opposite of 2007 Wayne IMO. He's rhyming without paying any attention to style, etc. I think Wayne'semergence as a popular artist might actually be hurting Pap's chance to blow

 

[free the chief]

Wayne kind of proves Pap's worth, and vice-versa.

 

[abeautifulhaze]

I thought Pap was ready to take the crown after the Menace II Society mixtape. The joint was better than almost every official album that dropped thatyear...but son lost focus and his buzz quick.

He needs to get on a label comitted to his project, fall back from Slay a lil, dop about 5 more tapes and re-capture that spotlight.

 

[pastortroyny]

its hard to call,,, a lot of cats thats swore to be backing pap are gone now.

maybe some of yall got tired of him
maybe he gave yall too much
maybe yall got tired of waiting for his album
maybe yall got tired of the similar content he put out

but i still say is he a ridiculous lyracist!!!!!!!!! atleast half of his cd's are clasic mixtapes.
im just patiently waiting for his album. sons skills aint go no where,, but i admit,,, we aint getting the same raw spittin that we got from cds like beastfrom the east or election day (earlier pap).

but i aint gonna be one of these cats to turn my back then jump back on when he starts droppin jewles again.
hip hop fans are only loyal 5 seconds,, then they switch ships,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, not me.