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You really think he’s On a different level from anyone else? He’s just presented that way IMO

What makes him different from any other top star other than an otherworldly push? Possibly the biggest push of all time

He's Bigger.
Better Looking.
Better Promo.
Believable Punch.
Great Seller.
Great Faction.
Great Represenative.
Great Bloodline.
Every Show He is on outdraws AEW.
He's the Champion.
He's the One.

Like me.

We the ONE.

CM Punk is old and brittle.
Moxley can't punch.
Adam Cole is an Egg-head high pants.
Omega thinks hes in the MvC Universe.
MJF is just a hungry MIZ.
Hangman cant handle Wrastlin politics.
Bucks are a Tag Team, thats not even better than FTR.
Britt Baker would be like 14th ranked on the WWE Womens Roster.
The best thing they got is Jericho and when hes #1, he's not beating a Roman led show in any demo.

Now do you understand, all the other top guys are just regular dudes.

Roman is the ONE.
 
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He's Bigger.
Better Looking.
Better Promo.
Believable Punch.
Great Seller.
Great Faction.
Great Represenative.
Great Bloodline.
Every Show He is on outdraws AEW.
He's the Champion.
He's the One.

Like me.

We the ONE.

CM Punk is old and brittle.
Moxley can't punch.
Adam Cole is an Egg-head high pants.
Omega thinks hes in the MvC Universe.
MJF is just a hungry MIZ.
Hangman cant handle Wrastlin politics.
Bucks are a Tag Team, thats not even better than FTR.
Britt Baker would be like 14th ranked on the WWE Womens Roster.
The best thing they got is Jericho and when hes #1, he's not beating a Roman led show in any demo.

Now do you understand, all the other top guys are just regular dudes.

Roman is the ONE.
Lol @ Omega thinks he’s in the MvC universe.
 
He's Bigger.
Better Looking.
Better Promo.
Believable Punch.
Great Seller.
Great Faction.
Great Represenative.
Great Bloodline.
Every Show He is on outdraws AEW.
He's the Champion.
He's the One.

Like me.

We the ONE.

CM Punk is old and brittle.
Moxley can't punch.
Adam Cole is an Egg-head high pants.
Omega thinks hes in the MvC Universe.
MJF is just a hungry MIZ.
Hangman cant handle Wrastlin politics.
Bucks are a Tag Team, thats not even better than FTR.
Britt Baker would be like 14th ranked on the WWE Womens Roster.
The best thing they got is Jericho and when hes #1, he's not beating a Roman led show in any demo.

Now do you understand, all the other top guys are just regular dudes.

Roman is the ONE.
Y’all are suckers for booking
 
I mean how is booking NOT part of the equation here?
I can look at a wrestler for their own merit and judge them that way provided they’re given the opportunity to show what they can do

I don’t need a wrestler to be booked to the moon for me to be convinced they’re great

His push is legendary by any measure so it’s kinda funny to me people can’t separate that from the talent which is good not anywhere near transcendent IMO

I would say his lack of cultural significance outside of wrestling is evidence of that but 🤷🏾‍♂️
 
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For anybody that’s been keeping up, how’s they transition Stokley from Jade and the Baddies to this new stable ?

It was kinda quick and subtle, actually. Few weeks ago, Stoke talked over her or interrupted her or something during a promo and Jade kinda looked at him like MF'er are you crazy? Next week he did something similar and she yelled at him. Literally just this week, she made a comment about how she cut him loose because he was only out for himself/was spending too much time on people besides them and they didn't need him or something to that effect.
 
It was kinda quick and subtle, actually. Few weeks ago, Stoke talked over her or interrupted her or something during a promo and Jade kinda looked at him like MF'er are you crazy? Next week he did something similar and she yelled at him. Literally just this week, she made a comment about how she cut him loose because he was only out for himself/was spending too much time on people besides them and they didn't need him or something to that effect.

#BookerOfTheYear
#CreativeFreedom
 
Stokley is amazing at getting himself over but struggles to get others over
Which talents should he have gotten over?

He has only been associated with lower/mid card folks. (Other than Jade)

That Is on Tony to get those folks over and/or the individual talents.
 
Which talents should he have gotten over?

He has only been associated with lower/mid card folks. (Other than Jade)

That Is on Tony to get those folks over and/or the individual talents.
I saw him a bunch at Limitless before he signed with NXT. I remember a lot of his promos and was always excited to see him, and outside of MJF, I don't remember a single wrestler he managed there.
 
Nah I was saying there has been talk of Stokley not getting folks over. No manager is going to get a wrestler OVER (that isn't already over).

Wrestlers get over by being charismatic and/or performing in the ring. I never recall a manager being responsible for (initially) getting someone over.

All a manager can do is speak FOR a wrestler but the wrestler has to do the work.
 
It was kinda quick and subtle, actually. Few weeks ago, Stoke talked over her or interrupted her or something during a promo and Jade kinda looked at him like MF'er are you crazy? Next week he did something similar and she yelled at him. Literally just this week, she made a comment about how she cut him loose because he was only out for himself/was spending too much time on people besides them and they didn't need him or something to that effect.
thats actually good. jade didnt need a mouth piece. shes a good talker.

hopefully she doesnt choke taking the lead.
 
Nah I was saying there has been talk of Stokley not getting folks over. No manager is going to get a wrestler OVER (that isn't already over).

Wrestlers get over by being charismatic and/or performing in the ring. I never recall a manager being responsible for (initially) getting someone over.

All a manager can do is speak FOR a wrestler but the wrestler has to do the work.
IMO, if the manager has been associated with main event guys and world champions, a midcard guy on the cusp can get the rub. For example, a guy they want to be next after Roman can get Heyman as a manager so the audience sees that there's something there if Roman and Brocks former manager is representing this dude.
But like you said it has to be something there in the first place. You can put both Heyman and Prime Bobby Heenan, Pillman Jr. will still suck.

IMO
IMO
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Nah I was saying there has been talk of Stokley not getting folks over. No manager is going to get a wrestler OVER (that isn't already over).

Wrestlers get over by being charismatic and/or performing in the ring. I never recall a manager being responsible for (initially) getting someone over.

All a manager can do is speak FOR a wrestler but the wrestler has to do the work.
I agree..But a manager has to not do anything to take away from the in ring talent..If a manager/valet is talking more about themselves than their “client” then I can see that being a problem..Dint know enough about Storkly to know if he’s guilty of this..

It’s like when Heyman was with Perfect Jr and spent more time talking about everyone else but Curtis Axelrod..
 
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