Xbox 360 NBA 2k9 League Fantasy Draft- Draft 10:30 Eastern Thurs 4/23

Yeah Gully you may want to reconsider taking Dwight...

I know how you love to go to one player... which is borderline for this league. But if your going to one player in the paint all day... people are gonna getreal pissed real fast and want you out of the league.

Unlike Granger.... Dwight has NO jumpshot... so all your shots with him will be in the paint..

If you are giving it to him 25-35 times a game... thats OD

When I had him on my team I shot 12-15 attempts with him a game.
 
I just checked.. I averaged 12.5 FG attempts a game with Dwight.. about a third of what you would
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I'm just warning you man... that stuff you pull with Granger... like i said barely flys...

If your going to be giving it to Dwight in the paint ALL game long... it will NOT be tolerated

So please make your draft choice wisely
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Originally Posted by memphisboi55

I was going to say the same, watch he just dump it inside to dwight all day now.
new guy ??
trust me .. ive came a long way to playing "sim" ball my friend .. i took Granger last league so i didnt have to abuse the paint.. but if hes notthere then ima dominate inside with a lil light flurries from the 3pt
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Crag comon man tryna use reverse psych on me ... u abused Dwight with the offensive put backs .. now i shall
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and thru all of this i will continue to play sim ball
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Originally Posted by Cragmatic

I just checked.. I averaged 12.5 FG attempts a game with Dwight.. about a third of what you would
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I'm just warning you man... that stuff you pull with Granger... like i said barely flys...

If your going to be giving it to Dwight in the paint ALL game long... it will NOT be tolerated

So please make your draft choice wisely
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all jumpshots ..

please take a look at the top 10 scoreers from last league and look at the PIP


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[/td] [td]GP[/td] [td]GS[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Min[/td] [td]PTS[/td] [td]OReb[/td] [td]DReb[/td] [td]Reb[/td] [td]AST[/td] [td]STL[/td] [td]BLK[/td] [td]TO[/td] [td]Foul[/td] [td]http://community.2ksports.com/community/league/player_stats.cfm?l=79349&cat=1&sort=13 desc[/td] [td]PIP[/td] [td]Dunk[/td] [td]Layup[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]FG[/td] [td]ATT[/td] [td]FG%[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]3P[/td] [td]ATT[/td] [td]3P%[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]FT[/td] [td]ATT[/td] [td]FT%[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Danny Granger[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]27:07[/td] [td]39.2[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]2.2[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]1.3[/td] [td]1.4[/td] [td]1.7[/td] [td]-1.5[/td] [td]9.7[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]2.7[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]299[/td] [td]685[/td] [td]43.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]79[/td] [td]278[/td] [td]28.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]67[/td] [td]70[/td] [td]95.7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Dwyane Wade[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]22:44[/td] [td]32.4[/td] [td]0.6[/td] [td]2.3[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]3.8[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]2.0[/td] [td]1.8[/td] [td]+3.0[/td] [td]17.5[/td] [td]3.2[/td] [td]3.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]368[/td] [td]658[/td] [td]55.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]83[/td] [td]32.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]113[/td] [td]132[/td] [td]85.6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]3[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]LeBron James[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23:25[/td] [td]32.1[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]4.2[/td] [td]5.4[/td] [td]5.0[/td] [td]1.6[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]1.4[/td] [td]+5.2[/td] [td]21.5[/td] [td]6.6[/td] [td]3.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]290[/td] [td]512[/td] [td]56.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]144[/td] [td]28.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]54[/td] [td]81[/td] [td]66.7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Kobe Bryant[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]18[/td] [td]18[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23:03[/td] [td]31.7[/td] [td]0.6[/td] [td]1.5[/td] [td]2.1[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]1.4[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]1.5[/td] [td]1.6[/td] [td]-3.8[/td] [td]19.8[/td] [td]3.2[/td] [td]4.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]230[/td] [td]439[/td] [td]52.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]113[/td] [td]27.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]79[/td] [td]97[/td] [td]81.4[/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Rudy Gay[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]24:03[/td] [td]28.7[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]2.6[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]1.6[/td] [td]1.3[/td] [td]+5.6[/td] [td]15.0[/td] [td]4.5[/td] [td]1.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]329[/td] [td]588[/td] [td]56.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]55[/td] [td]152[/td] [td]36.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]90[/td] [td]109[/td] [td]82.6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]6[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Deron Williams[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23:46[/td] [td]27.3[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]1.7[/td] [td]2.0[/td] [td]6.9[/td] [td]1.5[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]3.3[/td] [td]3.6[/td] [td]-13.3[/td] [td]9.7[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]2.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]161[/td] [td]393[/td] [td]41.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]20[/td] [td]76[/td] [td]26.3[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]67[/td] [td]79[/td] [td]84.8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]7[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Carmelo Anthony[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23:12[/td] [td]26.5[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]3.9[/td] [td]2.3[/td] [td]1.3[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]1.3[/td] [td]1.6[/td] [td]-4.7[/td] [td]15.8[/td] [td]1.7[/td] [td]4.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]114[/td] [td]235[/td] [td]48.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]15[/td] [td]60[/td] [td]25.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]58[/td] [td]82.8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]8[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Michael Beasley[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]18:30[/td] [td]23.8[/td] [td]0.6[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]3.0[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]+15.1[/td] [td]2.6[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]264[/td] [td]503[/td] [td]52.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]92[/td] [td]195[/td] [td]47.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]85.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]9[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Brandon Roy[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]34[/td] [td]34[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23:04[/td] [td]23.7[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]2.9[/td] [td]3.8[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]1.6[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]+2.3[/td] [td]7.2[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]1.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]352[/td] [td]727[/td] [td]48.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]61[/td] [td]193[/td] [td]31.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]87.5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]10[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Jason Richardson[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]20[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]22:16[/td] [td]23.4[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]1.7[/td] [td]2.2[/td] [td]4.3[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]1.8[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]+5.5[/td] [td]8.9[/td] [td]2.4[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]193[/td] [td]391[/td] [td]49.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]69[/td] [td]182[/td] [td]37.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]37[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]75.5[/td] [/tr][/table]
 
Originally Posted by GULLYDAGREAT

Originally Posted by memphisboi55

I was going to say the same, watch he just dump it inside to dwight all day now.
new guy ??
trust me .. ive came a long way to playing "sim" ball my friend .. i took Granger last league so i didnt have to abuse the paint.. but if hes not there then ima dominate inside with a lil light flurries from the 3pt
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Crag comon man tryna use reverse psych on me ... u abused Dwight with the offensive put backs .. now i shall
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and thru all of this i will continue to play sim ball
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I was in the first one we did, actually first two. But then i got the red rings...
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I know they were jumpshots... but the point is you like to ball hog man...

Like I said if you'd like to take Dwight...

But if you are ODing on ballhogging in the paint with him.. people are gonna want you out.... and i won't hesitate to pull the trigger

You won't be able to shoot with him at all outside of the paint

You still averaged 36 attempts a game with Granger, even if they were jumpshots.... as opposed to my 12 with Dwight

if you even did 26 attempts with Dwight a game... and all in the paint.. that is WAY OD

So if you want to draft Dwight.... you better sim it down some more... and learn to play with more than 1 player

Oh and it has nothing to do with PIP or jumpshots with Danny G... its the fact that you ONLY use him... part of the rules of the sim league is to distributethe ball
 
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[/td] [td]GP[/td] [td]GS[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]Min[/td] [td]PTS[/td] [td]OReb[/td] [td]DReb[/td] [td]Reb[/td] [td]AST[/td] [td]STL[/td] [td]BLK[/td] [td]TO[/td] [td]Foul[/td] [td]http://community.2ksports.com/community/league/team_player_stats.cfm?l=79349&t=0&cat=1&sort=13 desc[/td] [td]PIP[/td] [td]Dunk[/td] [td]Layup[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]FG[/td] [td]ATT[/td] [td]FG%[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]3P[/td] [td]ATT[/td] [td]3P%[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]FT[/td] [td]ATT[/td] [td]FT%[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]1[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]T Prince[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23:15[/td] [td]17.7[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]3.5[/td] [td]4.3[/td] [td]1.8[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]-1.5[/td] [td]8.2[/td] [td]1.7[/td] [td]1.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]143[/td] [td]295[/td] [td]48.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]88[/td] [td]31.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]22[/td] [td]25[/td] [td]88.0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]2[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td] Harris[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23:34[/td] [td]15.1[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]1.8[/td] [td]2.1[/td] [td]4.7[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]1.8[/td] [td]1.4[/td] [td]-4.7[/td] [td]3.9[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]161[/td] [td]353[/td] [td]45.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]53[/td] [td]147[/td] [td]36.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]57[/td] [td]84.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]3[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]V Carter[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]18:46[/td] [td]12.0[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]1.5[/td] [td]3.4[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]+0.3[/td] [td]4.6[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]1.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]92[/td] [td]205[/td] [td]44.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]31[/td] [td]87[/td] [td]35.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]38[/td] [td]40[/td] [td]95.0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]4[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]C Boozer[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]29[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]21:60[/td] [td]9.2[/td] [td]1.6[/td] [td]5.8[/td] [td]7.4[/td] [td]1.4[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]0.6[/td] [td]+0.7[/td] [td]6.9[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]2.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]132[/td] [td]230[/td] [td]57.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]19[/td] [td]15.8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]R Wallace[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]10[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]14:04[/td] [td]4.9[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]2.8[/td] [td]3.9[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]-6.4[/td] [td]3.6[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]1.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]61[/td] [td]113[/td] [td]54.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]17[/td] [td]29.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]16[/td] [td]56.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]5[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]T Parker[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]12:21[/td] [td]4.9[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]4.3[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]+2.2[/td] [td]2.3[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]55[/td] [td]125[/td] [td]44.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]21[/td] [td]23.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]27[/td] [td]85.2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]7[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]J Terry[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]9:30[/td] [td]4.4[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]3.6[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]+1.7[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]113[/td] [td]38.9[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]19.6[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]5[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]83.3[/td] [/tr][tr][td]8[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]M Camby[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]32[/td] [td]32[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]17:30[/td] [td]3.7[/td] [td]1.7[/td] [td]5.5[/td] [td]7.2[/td] [td]1.3[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]1.3[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]-1.6[/td] [td]3.6[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]58[/td] [td]105[/td] [td]55.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]6[/td] [td]50.0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]9[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]A Kirilenko[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]7:10[/td] [td]2.6[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]0.8[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]0.6[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.4[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]-1.2[/td] [td]1.8[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]33[/td] [td]70[/td] [td]47.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]9[/td] [td]11.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]11[/td] [td]63.6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]10[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]M Pietrus[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3:13[/td] [td]2.2[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]0.7[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]+0.4[/td] [td]1.0[/td] [td]0.2[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]23[/td] [td]57[/td] [td]40.4[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]24[/td] [td]29.2[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]8[/td] [td]12[/td] [td]66.7[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [/tr][tr][td]11[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]K Thomas[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2:17[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.6[/td] [td]0.9[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]-0.6[/td] [td]0.5[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]7[/td] [td]13[/td] [td]53.8[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]1[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]50.0[/td] [/tr][tr][td]12[/td] [td]
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[/td] [td]M Barnes[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]28[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0:17[/td] [td]0.3[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]-0.1[/td] [td]0.1[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]0.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]100.0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]0[/td] [td]
[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]2[/td] [td]100.0[/td] [/tr][/table]
 
this is what i think a proper fast break off a defensive rebound is.

after a defensive rebound, outlet the ball to the PG/SG or your primary ball handler to push the ball up-court with. do not make and additional pass until youare passed the half-court line. do not just chuck the ball up court after a rebound.
 
Yea the biggest issue with these fast breaks are these Kevin Love UCLA passes that people are throwing full/ 3 quarter court all the time... that %%+* is wildannoying... i dont mind throwing it to half court to the 1 or the 2 guard and letting them do w.e with it at all
 
Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11

Yea the biggest issue with these fast breaks are these Kevin Love UCLA passes that people are throwing full/ 3 quarter court all the time... that %%+* is wild annoying... i dont mind throwing it to half court to the 1 or the 2 guard and letting them do w.e with it at all
yeah i think the kevin love full court passes are ok off turnovers, but off a defensive rebound is pretty bad.
 
That's the way I feel too about the whole fast break thing. I also hate when your opponent switches to one of his guards as you are taking a shot and he isalready past half court with no way to stop him when they pass it up court.
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It was on time last draft so it should be this time as well. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Originally Posted by Ritch1088

That's the way I feel too about the whole fast break thing. I also hate when your opponent switches to one of his guards as you are taking a shot and he is already past half court with no way to stop him when they pass it up court.
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that's basically cherry picking off a miss.


but yeah the draft is on time, no need to go there an hour early.
 
Originally Posted by GULLYDAGREAT

ok ok i wont take Granger ..

D12 HERE I COME
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oh and Crag do the best 8 teams.. as you can see last league teams that were doing real good couldnt even make the playoffs (west) teams with big losing records made it (east)

just fair if the best 8 guys make the playoff imo


i love how you are playing it off acting like you REALLLY LIKE D12 ... just so that you can make me take him since i would think i would be breaking your heart... sorry still taking granger #2
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O then i guess not this dude is a SG

but ur prolly talkin about Aaron Brooks cuz hes cash money at Pg.
 
i'm guessing yours is jr smith.

aaron is money, but it aint him either.

feeling good with my chances of getting mini kobe now haha.
 
lol, damn gotta cook dinner early so i can get ready for draft, my first season on NT in a min, im excited! lol


Last time i played.. you could only play in a certain order of your schedule, can you now play whoever is online?


and im on my phone so dont feel like going back a lot of pages.... but the time is 930 est right? cant remember...
 
Yes you can play who ever you want. But a reminder to everyone to register your gt on the 2k website if you have not already. And its at 10:30 est.
 
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