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The only real difference here is Chauncey Billups. The rest of those guys kind of wash out.Originally Posted by CP1708
Mike has a point, he's basically saying if they trade Paul, they're dead anyways, blow it all up and start fresh, getting Billups and Turiaf gives them a year to struggle, then they have all the money in the world, they'll have a top 3 pick since they would then suck royally, draft a stud, sign a free agent with all that money to play with said stud, and start over from there.
Take the Clips deal, they get average players, longer contract issues tied to them, and maybe a nice pick or two. The picks are tempting, the money for average deals is not. Its the type of half @#$ trade that doesn't make you a power player, but doesn't make you the #1 pick in the draft either, mediocre forever. The Knick deal lets you bottom all the way out, luck into a star kid, and then try to come up from there, ala OKC style.
The only larger contracts they'd have to deal with are those of the young kids that you WANT to put around your future, right? Aminu and Bledsoe don't have terrible contracts, they're kids.
It could very well net them the overall #1 pick though my dude. They have the Timberwolves first rounder, unprotected.
With the Clippers as well, they can take on a bad contract like Trevor Ariza.
I mentioned it the other day, but let's say the clippers sign DeAndre to 8 million/yr deal this year. They'd sit at about 52 million. Kaman/Foye/Aminu/Bledsoe is 20 million in contracts, and only about four million of that is tied to the young kids, while the other 16 million is off the books after this year. Do you think the Hornets would fret over having two young prospects worth 4 million dollars? Probably not.
The Hornets can also tack on the terrible deal of Trevor Ariza's if they want to, because that's about 22 million, and the Clippers still have space to eat up that contract of his, and anyone else they want to tack on, they could even throw in Jack to get even lower.
By 2012-2013, they can get their salary cap to about 20 million. Plus have the unprotected Minnesota first rounder.
Or you can have Chauncey Billups, and no free draft picks.
In the 2012 draft, they can very possibly get two top-10 draft picks, and then still have all the cap room in the world to work with.
Let's not forget either, under the new CBA, you have to wait 6 months to sign an extension, and if you sign an extension, you can't get traded for six months.
It's all about the cap space of the Clippers and their unprotected first rounder to me.. You can throw on contracts you don't want like Ariza and Jack, and you can get a really good first rounder out of it too. If you're New York, all you're getting is cap relief, but Clippers can offer more cap relief, so to me, it just doesn't make a ton of sense.